Time for hanging/cpr?

[LostMyWorld]

How long do you need to hang uninterrupted for hanging to work and not be able to resuscitate you?

 

[Volomori83]

The recommendation is 20-30 minutes uninterrupted.

 

[LostMyWorld]

The recommendation is 20-30 minutes uninterrupted.

You can definitely be resuscitated in 20-30 mins, some with complications and some without. I've read they have resuscitated people that been there 60mins. Those people didn't make it but they still spent time on in hospital or on life support. It's crazy.

 

[Volomori83]

You can definitely be resuscitated in 20-30 mins, some with complications and some without. I've read they have resuscitated people that been there 60mins. Those people didn't make it but they still spent time on in hospital or on life support. It's crazy.

Oh I've no doubt there are exceptions where people have been resuscitated after a longer period of time. I've definitely read about a few poor souls like that but generally speaking it should take the brain something like 15-20 minutes to be beyond the point of saving, 30 minutes would be fatal (in most cases). Of course I'm talking about the time it should take at the point where the hanging begins and the arteries have been completely blocked off.

 

[Ta555]

30 mins minimum is what I've seen recommended but I would say one hour to be really sure.

 

[justsayin]

You can definitely be resuscitated in 20-30 mins, some with complications and some without. I've read they have resuscitated people that been there 60mins. Those people didn't make it but they still spent time on in hospital or on life support. It's crazy.

You should not believe everything you read on the Internet. Do you have any links to scientific papers supporting your claims?

 

[LostMyWorld]

You should not believe everything you read on the Internet. Do you have any links to scientific papers supporting your claims?

I just googled near hanging and read case reports from hospitals. Talked about treatments, the scale of someone alartness/consciousness and how many was released without permanent damage, damage, nursing home and death.

I just googled near hanging and read case reports from hospitals. Talked about treatments, the scale of someone alartness/consciousness and how many was released without permanent damage, damage, nursing home and death.

The Effective Factors on Survival in Near-Hanging

Aim: Neck hanging is one of the most lethal suicide methods. The morbidity and mortality due to hanging is usually associated with neck’s structure injury attached to a fall from height, venous obstruction and cerebral hypoxia time. Mortality is usually caused by respiratory failure in patients...

medcraveonline.com

I just googled near hanging and read case reports from hospitals. Talked about treatments, the scale of someone alartness/consciousness and how many was released without permanent damage, damage, nursing home and death.

The Effective Factors on Survival in Near-Hanging

Aim: Neck hanging is one of the most lethal suicide methods. The morbidity and mortality due to hanging is usually associated with neck’s structure injury attached to a fall from height, venous obstruction and cerebral hypoxia time. Mortality is usually caused by respiratory failure in patients...

medcraveonline.com

They recommended that the cases of near hanging should be aggressively resuscitated and treated regardless of their bad initial findings.
And times were 3-60mins

 

[justsayin]

I just googled near hanging and read case reports from hospitals. Talked about treatments, the scale of someone alartness/consciousness and how many was released without permanent damage, damage, nursing home and death.

The Effective Factors on Survival in Near-Hanging

Aim: Neck hanging is one of the most lethal suicide methods. The morbidity and mortality due to hanging is usually associated with neck’s structure injury attached to a fall from height, venous obstruction and cerebral hypoxia time. Mortality is usually caused by respiratory failure in patients...

medcraveonline.com

They recommended that the cases of near hanging should be aggressively resuscitated and treated regardless of their bad initial findings.
And times were 3-60mins

They say that:
All the patients who had less than 10 minutes estimated hanging time survived. All the patients who had more than 20 minutes hanging time died.

They also say that:
Irreversible brain damage occurs as a result of interruption of cerebral blood flow with a 5-6 min period.

This is consistent with all the other scientific papers that I have read, and with recommended 30 minutes minimum time.

They recommend resuscitation because it is their job. Keeping dead people alive on machines is what they do. You won't see many doctors recommending to let people die in peace.

EDIT
I was hoping to find some details on how they know that someone was hanging for 60 minutes or so, before being found. Reviving an hour dead body sounds very dodgy to me (except for the cases of drowning in ice cold water).

EDIT 2
I went deeper into the rabbit hole of hanging time measurement and estimation, and found something it two related papers.

Sci-Hub | Prognostic factors in hanging injuries. The American Journal of Emergency Medicine, 22(3), 207–210 | 10.1016/j.ajem.2004.02.012

Hanging time was typically difficult to determine and was estimated from family reports of when the patient was last seen. Hanging time ranged from 5 seconds to 360 minutes in all patients.

Sci-Hub | The emergency department management of near-hanging victims. The Journal of Emergency Medicine, 12(3), 285–292 | 10.1016/0736-4679(94)90268-2

Hang times were usually only approximate, based on an alert patient's estimate or, more often, the family's report of when the victim was last seen. Duration of hanging by these estimates ranged from seconds up to 1 hour.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

FUCK SAKE - I think I might just ride a bike off Beachy Head - SURELY my shitty body can't survive that?!