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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
183
Have you ever felt really down, only to feel a bit better after eating some food? I bet you have just like any human.

The SN method includes not eating before you take SN. Unfortunately a side effect of this is a drop in bloodsugar, which lowers your mood significantly, limits your ability to reason.

If you're dead set on suicide, these side effects could work to your advantage, making it easier to go through innthe moment of committing suicide.

But are you really you when you are affected by low bloodsugar? Maybe in such moment you are not giving yourself a chance to reflect and decide honestly.

Maybe it would be wise to first take a piece of choclate, just something small, and hen decide if you want to carry on with the plan.
 
veryhappyhuman

veryhappyhuman

Specialist
Aug 25, 2021
340
Eh, I feel like you're overthinking this. I dont think an 8h fast would have that drastic an effect on mood unless you already suffer from Type1 Diabetes or something that naturally lowers blood sugar. Even normally, people have 8+ hour gap between meals (esp overnight)
 
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May 5, 2022
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Have you ever felt really down, only to feel a bit better after eating some food? I bet you have just like any human.

The SN method includes not eating before you take SN. Unfortunately a side effect of this is a drop in bloodsugar, which lowers your mood significantly, limits your ability to reason.

If you're dead set on suicide, these side effects could work to your advantage, making it easier to go through innthe moment of committing suicide.

But are you really you when you are affected by low bloodsugar? Maybe in such moment you are not giving yourself a chance to reflect and decide honestly.

Maybe it would be wise to first take a piece of choclate, just something small, and hen decide if you want to carry on with the plan.

I think fasting is very important as if you do vomit there will be very little food to bring up, even if you did vomit you can have a look at judge exactly better any liquid or mucus that comes up.

It is recommended you have a small snack to settle your stomach about 8-12 hours before.

Also the regimen in general is so that when you do take the sn drink the body rapidly absorbs it as it has been lacking in water and food for many hours.

It is best to stick to stans guide to sn as most people are successful if they follow it.
 
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Danjor88

Member
Oct 17, 2021
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If you decide you're going to die via SN then you need to follow the protocol and not eat.

You're portraying this as though someone is making a snap decision to kill themselves, which is clearly nonsense, SN doesn't fall out the sky, you have to go through a process to procure it, which means you're serious about it.

An alternative title and intro to your post might be:

The dangers of not taking the antidote to a poison before you poison yourself with it.

If you take the antidote before you try to kill yourself, well maybe when you don't die you might realise you don't want to die. But if you do, you can then take the poison without the antidote.

But just to be sure, you should probably take the antidote first then as well.

Facepalm.
 
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Alex6216

Mage
Apr 19, 2022
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But are you really you when you are affected by low bloodsugar? Maybe in such moment you are not giving yourself a chance to reflect and decide honestly.
Yes me with low blood-sugar is still me without it. We aren't animals, I mean we are in a biological sense but we are very different to every other animal in this planet; We have free-will, our behaviour & actions aren't limited to purely biological instinct. Things might help influence our mind but they arent the end all be all, we/our conscious are.
 
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Stargazer100

no nonsense
May 25, 2021
183
You say that the fact that someone aquired SN proves that the decision to kill themselfs is not an in-the-moment thing. I think the preparations including aquiring the SN are not yet the decision to kill yourself but are a decision to make it possible for yourself. Therefore I also think the decision to actually take the SN is still an in-the-moment decision, and is very dependand on your mood on that moment.

Secondly, despite us thinking of ourself as rational humans, our decisionmaking is still very much influenced by biological and environmental variables such as bloodsuger levels, more so than we are conciously aware most of the time.

I'm arguing that promoting a regime of eating completely nothing before suicide leads to unnecessary suicides of people who haven't thought it trough, besides suicides which were thought through better.
To seperate the more ratiokal choices from the emotional in-the-moment ones a bit better, it might be better to advise taking something small oike a piece if choclate 30 minutes before taking SN.
The risk of something so small disturbing the process itself might be neglatable, since you are not filling your digestive system with much volume at all, and something as simple as a piece of choclate is not likely to interfere in any way with metho or SN itself.

To sum it up: advising people to eat something small and sweet before commiting can maybe save lifes of people who are less determined.
 
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Deformationalplagio

Born deformed
Dec 28, 2019
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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Have you ever felt really down, only to feel a bit better after eating some food? I bet you have just like any human.

The SN method includes not eating before you take SN. Unfortunately a side effect of this is a drop in bloodsugar, which lowers your mood significantly, limits your ability to reason.

If you're dead set on suicide, these side effects could work to your advantage, making it easier to go through innthe moment of committing suicide.

But are you really you when you are affected by low bloodsugar? Maybe in such moment you are not giving yourself a chance to reflect and decide honestly.

Maybe it would be wise to first take a piece of choclate, just something small, and hen decide if you want to carry on with the plan.
8 hours is not long at all... we fast thst long while we're sleeping..
You say that the fact that someone aquired SN proves that the decision to kill themselfs is not an in-the-moment thing. I think the preparations including aquiring the SN are not yet the decision to kill yourself but are a decision to make it possible for yourself. Therefore I also think the decision to actually take the SN is still an in-the-moment decision, and is very dependand on your mood on that moment.

Secondly, despite us thinking of ourself as rational humans, our decisionmaking is still very much influenced by biological and environmental variables such as bloodsuger levels, more so than we are conciously aware most of the time.

I'm arguing that promoting a regime of eating completely nothing before suicide leads to unnecessary suicides of people who haven't thought it trough, besides suicides which were thought through better.
To seperate the more ratiokal choices from the emotional in-the-moment ones a bit better, it might be better to advise taking something small oike a piece if choclate 30 minutes before taking SN.
The risk of something so small disturbing the process itself might be neglatable, since you are not filling your digestive system with much volume at all, and something as simple as a piece of choclate is not likely to interfere in any way with metho or SN itself.

To sum it up: advising people to eat something small and sweet before commiting can maybe save lifes of people who are less determined.
I don't agree with this lol. I've gone 23 days just drinking water and if anything was thinking more clearly than when I was eating. And 8 hour fast isn't going to affect our decision thinking that much LOL we dry fast while we are sleeping.
 
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