I watched a Ted Talk on YouTube by a multiple attempt survivor (13 to be precise). She quoted a mental health magazine article that said that 19/20 (95%) of attempts to CTB fail which I'm on board with. Then she went on to say that of those failed attempts 91% are suffering horrifying consequences as a result of their failed attempts (paralysis, irreversible organ failure, physical deformities and disfugrements, etc.) This statistic seems wildly inaccurate to me. I'm not sure if she just threw that second stat in as a deterant or if the magazine that she got that from actually stated that. How would you even keep track of something like that? It just doesn't pass the smell test. I'll post a link to the video below. The stats she's quoting start at about 7:20 in. I'm curious if anybody has any opinions on this.
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Apathy79
Wizard
- Oct 13, 2019
- 667
Yeah neither of those figures are within hailing distance of being accurate, the 2nd one is almost comical. She said she got them from a random magazine article. Probably all you need to know.
Withered
Member
- Apr 9, 2025
- 48
People like her are definitionally evil. Attempting to dissuade someone from the opportunity for countless months, years, or decades of pain to be circumvented based on easily falsifiable information is beyond worthy of condemnation.
IndictEvolution
VegAntinatalist
- Jun 28, 2024
- 54
Many many people (even people on this website) have been programmed to be fearmongers. You just learn to identify it, it's super easy once you recognize it a few times. Obviously you have to be careful to fine tune it so you don't get false positives, but it's really not that hard.
They're usually doing it for one of these reasons:
They're usually doing it for one of these reasons:
- They themselves have an irrational fear of this thing, and so see it as justified to impose this fear on others.
- They feed off of other people's emotional reactions to things, and enjoy seeing people scared.
- Manipulation to push an agenda, like pro-life ideology for example.
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13 times eh? I'm sure they were all very serious attempts and not attention-seeking nonsense at all, just like this Ted talk!
God, I hate such people. Their "me, me, me, me, me!" attitude and attention whoring made it so difficult for me to get taken seriously and find mental health resources and get my disability aknowledged. They can all go die in a fire and I don't care how brutal it sounds.
God, I hate such people. Their "me, me, me, me, me!" attitude and attention whoring made it so difficult for me to get taken seriously and find mental health resources and get my disability aknowledged. They can all go die in a fire and I don't care how brutal it sounds.
bankai
Warlock
- Mar 16, 2025
- 781
Their assumption is that if they make people think that their attempt is not going to succeed, then they won't do it. On top of that, let's also say that it's going to leave you permanently disfigured or injured, and you're almost guaranteeing that 90% of people won't try. So these 90% will live, work, feed themselves, pay taxes, pay pharmaceutical companies, pay therapists, and keep the economy going. That's ultimately what these evil sob'swant.
RoseGirl
Member
- May 8, 2025
- 55
I've never seen less accurate statistics omg...
Uhm... Yeah
I'm watching it rn
In relation to her latest suicide attempt.
"After attempting to kill myself with 50 extra strength pain killers" -> Ibuprofin most likely
"and 8 shots of hard liquor" 8 shots of liqour is called a good night. I used to be such a fiend and the most i've ever had was like 25 shots worth aka 1 and a bit bottles worth. Tbh it was pretty alright, so horny tho t~t then i passed out on the way home. zzz and woke up w a hang over...
Tbh that suicide attempt reminds me of like, That one meme that's like "girls be like i've had 5 suicide attempts" "the suicide attempt" and it's just some dude lighting his ass on fire.
"And today i stand virtually untouched" -> Literally tried a non method listed in nonmethods but okay lol
"It was never the answer and i'd never do it again" Good for you girl.
her trauma is that... she went from being a straight A's student to like, not being one in late highschool. Nvm apparently she has bipolar, after getting "extensive psychological evaluation"
Is that like, even a thing, I feel like most psychological evals are usually very "here have some antidepressents and get out of my office." Ig she might be from a wealthy family or smth.
"I basically lost the genetic lottery" (in reference to having bipolar) I mean depends on the severity but like, honestly there are a lot of people in the worst who've lost that lottery in way worse ways... idk...
"So to be told I had no control over my mental stability" To my knowledge bipolar disorder is generally pretty effectively treatable with medication.
"that was the moment I basically knew i had to give up on everything." uhm what, >Be her >Have treatable mental illness >likely come from a wealthy family >I gotta give up on everything. uhhhh idk what she was going through in the moment but uhm, i really don't see the logic in that.
Maybe it was super severe and medication resistant... Hasn't been mentioned yet. She did say she had to be hospitalized so that could be the case.
"I had to self teach myself 5 ap subjects just because life doesn't come to a standstill because you have a crippling mental illlness." Idk from my experience it kinda does, like once you run out of energy and find yourself unable to do anything productive, you kinda stop going anywhere in life.
"if you're lucky it just takes a few weeks [to find the right medication], for most it takes a couple months, and in my case it took about a year to a year and a half" ???????? Ig it's bc she was in highschool at the time.
This video has gotten very tiring to watch :c
I'll uhm stop giving a play by play....
Uh she's acting as if ibuprofin is an effective suicide method
"I had to somehow some way find the will to stay, even though i so badly wanted to leave."
Idk most people stick around simply because dying is difficult.
"For 1-2 years, I was looking for a reason to keep on living, and i couldn't, then a few months ago a reason fell into my lap. I was taking my friend to get her wisdom teeth removed"
>Has friends who she hangs out with okay lol. (Random thought, I'd absolutely love to hear a ted talk from the guy who stabbed himself, that would go kinda hard.
"Out of all people who attempt to commit suicide, 19 of 20 of them fail." "And that would certianly explain my luck" Uhhh girl u keep trying to od on ibuprofen... I think that's the real issue here... "But the statistic statistic after that, changed my life forever. Apparently out of all those that fail to commit suicide 96% of them end up with severe reprocussions" UH LOL you'd think someone with "13 suicide attempts" and who is fine would probably realise that that statistic is wrong.
She then goes on to talk abt perminant injuries from failed suicide attempts with the more fun methods life what happens if somehow survive full suspension or a bullet to the brain LOL.
She then goes onto say 91% of people who commit suicide end up with perminant injury. She also describes it in a pretty derogetory way to.
Rest of her opinions are based on this incorrect statistic...
Honestly I can barely pallate watching anymore of this, she's so like dumb and dishonest.
She keeps acting as if she's super lucky when like, she's not. She repeatedly tried a non method and then is acting as if it could of been super bad for her. UGASDFHGFDIA
She doesn't even have any scars.
"Each attempt was more extreme then the last"
I'd hate to imagine what her first suicide attempt was... It was probably like 5 ibuprofen tablets or something
"So the fact that I was left physically intact so that i could at least complete my prayer goals, that's something i could settle for" Nooo stapp ur making religious people look bad.
"I realized if i was gonna stay here i wouldn't settle for anything less then happiness and if i wanted it i had to go get it myself. I needed to take control of my life"
Lucky for you you come from a well off family who's able to afford high quality mental health services, and you have friends and people who care about you ^w^
"and so after i realized i was stuck here I didn't want to exist, i wanted to live." I WANNA LIVE TOO I think most of us wanna live but we it's so unbearably difficult to.
"and the only way to live a forfilling life in my perspective was to find a passion" YEAH no shit, I don't think she understands what i feels like to have all your passions and everything you hold dear ripped away from you because your a horrible person or you don't have enough energy tto persure them anymore.
Her passion is apparently trying to destigmatize mental illness. t~t
Nails on a chalk board watching the rest of the video rn... t~t send help pls
"And if anyone tries to kill themselves they're labeled as attention seekers or crazy." tbf 13 suicide attempts with the same plan from 1-13 doesn't really make it seam like you're really set on dying. But also like don't blame to malice what can be attributed to ignorance or something.
She goes on a tangent about how people who have have to battle cancer as seen as warriors while people who kill themselves are seen as selfish and weak. Honestly fair, like people with BPD are seen as horrible awful people and it's got a relative leathality similar to cancer.
"[If i knew i could of asked for help], I could of saved myself from 3 or 4 years of misery" Uh I'm like pretty sure most people here have asked for help already yet are still suffering.
"by going through what you've gone through you've gained skills and abilities that no one else has." I uhm was introduced to a peer support worker today and apparently she managed to get her job just bc she was mentally ill x3. Tbh I'm really glad that, they've got uhm mentally ill peer support workers and that that's a thing. It's like really similar to talking to all of u here on sasu because like, she gets it and doesn't judge, unlike most therapists who put on that fake understanding smile or just don't understand what it's like. O she also uhm has bpd so, she's like extra relatable for me :p
Anyways as for the skills the girl in the video is talking about. Uh like honestly i've developed basically 0 skills from being mentally ill. I'd imagine if my emotions were suddenly made normal i'd probably be significantly more emotionally reselient then most people due to having to build up significantly more coping mechanisms. oh also my gf like basically always has an elevated heartrate unless we're cuddling or somewhere super comfortable, aaa i can't imagine how anxious she must feel all the time. My poor baby t~t.
"If there's on thing i want you guys to take out of this talk, it's that, never think that where you are, that things can't get worse. Because trust me, things can get worse. Things can get so much worse. But things can get so much better." Tbf,, sayings things can get worse is the reason why at least a few people here are suicidal.
Uhm... Yeah
I'm watching it rn
In relation to her latest suicide attempt.
"After attempting to kill myself with 50 extra strength pain killers" -> Ibuprofin most likely
"and 8 shots of hard liquor" 8 shots of liqour is called a good night. I used to be such a fiend and the most i've ever had was like 25 shots worth aka 1 and a bit bottles worth. Tbh it was pretty alright, so horny tho t~t then i passed out on the way home. zzz and woke up w a hang over...
Tbh that suicide attempt reminds me of like, That one meme that's like "girls be like i've had 5 suicide attempts" "the suicide attempt" and it's just some dude lighting his ass on fire.
"And today i stand virtually untouched" -> Literally tried a non method listed in nonmethods but okay lol
"It was never the answer and i'd never do it again" Good for you girl.
her trauma is that... she went from being a straight A's student to like, not being one in late highschool. Nvm apparently she has bipolar, after getting "extensive psychological evaluation"
Is that like, even a thing, I feel like most psychological evals are usually very "here have some antidepressents and get out of my office." Ig she might be from a wealthy family or smth.
"I basically lost the genetic lottery" (in reference to having bipolar) I mean depends on the severity but like, honestly there are a lot of people in the worst who've lost that lottery in way worse ways... idk...
"So to be told I had no control over my mental stability" To my knowledge bipolar disorder is generally pretty effectively treatable with medication.
"that was the moment I basically knew i had to give up on everything." uhm what, >Be her >Have treatable mental illness >likely come from a wealthy family >I gotta give up on everything. uhhhh idk what she was going through in the moment but uhm, i really don't see the logic in that.
Maybe it was super severe and medication resistant... Hasn't been mentioned yet. She did say she had to be hospitalized so that could be the case.
"I had to self teach myself 5 ap subjects just because life doesn't come to a standstill because you have a crippling mental illlness." Idk from my experience it kinda does, like once you run out of energy and find yourself unable to do anything productive, you kinda stop going anywhere in life.
"if you're lucky it just takes a few weeks [to find the right medication], for most it takes a couple months, and in my case it took about a year to a year and a half" ???????? Ig it's bc she was in highschool at the time.
This video has gotten very tiring to watch :c
I'll uhm stop giving a play by play....
Uh she's acting as if ibuprofin is an effective suicide method
"I had to somehow some way find the will to stay, even though i so badly wanted to leave."
Idk most people stick around simply because dying is difficult.
"For 1-2 years, I was looking for a reason to keep on living, and i couldn't, then a few months ago a reason fell into my lap. I was taking my friend to get her wisdom teeth removed"
>Has friends who she hangs out with okay lol. (Random thought, I'd absolutely love to hear a ted talk from the guy who stabbed himself, that would go kinda hard.
"Out of all people who attempt to commit suicide, 19 of 20 of them fail." "And that would certianly explain my luck" Uhhh girl u keep trying to od on ibuprofen... I think that's the real issue here... "But the statistic statistic after that, changed my life forever. Apparently out of all those that fail to commit suicide 96% of them end up with severe reprocussions" UH LOL you'd think someone with "13 suicide attempts" and who is fine would probably realise that that statistic is wrong.
She then goes on to talk abt perminant injuries from failed suicide attempts with the more fun methods life what happens if somehow survive full suspension or a bullet to the brain LOL.
She then goes onto say 91% of people who commit suicide end up with perminant injury. She also describes it in a pretty derogetory way to.
Rest of her opinions are based on this incorrect statistic...
Honestly I can barely pallate watching anymore of this, she's so like dumb and dishonest.
She keeps acting as if she's super lucky when like, she's not. She repeatedly tried a non method and then is acting as if it could of been super bad for her. UGASDFHGFDIA
She doesn't even have any scars.
"Each attempt was more extreme then the last"
I'd hate to imagine what her first suicide attempt was... It was probably like 5 ibuprofen tablets or something
"So the fact that I was left physically intact so that i could at least complete my prayer goals, that's something i could settle for" Nooo stapp ur making religious people look bad.
"I realized if i was gonna stay here i wouldn't settle for anything less then happiness and if i wanted it i had to go get it myself. I needed to take control of my life"
Lucky for you you come from a well off family who's able to afford high quality mental health services, and you have friends and people who care about you ^w^
"and so after i realized i was stuck here I didn't want to exist, i wanted to live." I WANNA LIVE TOO I think most of us wanna live but we it's so unbearably difficult to.
"and the only way to live a forfilling life in my perspective was to find a passion" YEAH no shit, I don't think she understands what i feels like to have all your passions and everything you hold dear ripped away from you because your a horrible person or you don't have enough energy tto persure them anymore.
Her passion is apparently trying to destigmatize mental illness. t~t
Nails on a chalk board watching the rest of the video rn... t~t send help pls
"And if anyone tries to kill themselves they're labeled as attention seekers or crazy." tbf 13 suicide attempts with the same plan from 1-13 doesn't really make it seam like you're really set on dying. But also like don't blame to malice what can be attributed to ignorance or something.
She goes on a tangent about how people who have have to battle cancer as seen as warriors while people who kill themselves are seen as selfish and weak. Honestly fair, like people with BPD are seen as horrible awful people and it's got a relative leathality similar to cancer.
"[If i knew i could of asked for help], I could of saved myself from 3 or 4 years of misery" Uh I'm like pretty sure most people here have asked for help already yet are still suffering.
"by going through what you've gone through you've gained skills and abilities that no one else has." I uhm was introduced to a peer support worker today and apparently she managed to get her job just bc she was mentally ill x3. Tbh I'm really glad that, they've got uhm mentally ill peer support workers and that that's a thing. It's like really similar to talking to all of u here on sasu because like, she gets it and doesn't judge, unlike most therapists who put on that fake understanding smile or just don't understand what it's like. O she also uhm has bpd so, she's like extra relatable for me :p
Anyways as for the skills the girl in the video is talking about. Uh like honestly i've developed basically 0 skills from being mentally ill. I'd imagine if my emotions were suddenly made normal i'd probably be significantly more emotionally reselient then most people due to having to build up significantly more coping mechanisms. oh also my gf like basically always has an elevated heartrate unless we're cuddling or somewhere super comfortable, aaa i can't imagine how anxious she must feel all the time. My poor baby t~t.
"If there's on thing i want you guys to take out of this talk, it's that, never think that where you are, that things can't get worse. Because trust me, things can get worse. Things can get so much worse. But things can get so much better." Tbf,, sayings things can get worse is the reason why at least a few people here are suicidal.
Kali_Yuga13
Arcanist
- Jul 11, 2024
- 463
Bipolar is what doctors put on medical forms to bill insurance when nothing else fits for simply being a bit crazy lol.
"8 shots of hard alcohol". WowWee! I took a few benadryls to go to sleep last night. Does that mean I survived my one millionth suicide attempt? Can I get a Ted talk and sponsorship endorsement? What a joke.
