Suicidology

[StateOfMind]

The myths are also interesting.

Suicidology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Life_and_Death]

I'll probably read more later but I did read the myths. Why isn't ft26 screenshotting that and posting it? You know something that would actually help.

 

[DocNo]

from the truths section:
"Many depressed people have already considered suicide as an option. Talking about suicide generally provides a sense of relief and understanding to the person. Talking about suicide is one of the most helpful things you can do."

case closed.

 

[WornOutLife]

Love the myths.

Although I disagree with the one saying "people who has attempted suicide, it is unlikely they will try again. "

If that were the case, me and many people wouldn't ve tried so many times to ctb.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Love the myths.

Although I disagree with the one saying "people who has attempted suicide, it is unlikely they will try again. "

If that were the case, me and many people wouldn't ve tried so many times to ctb.

I think you're meant to disagree with all of them

 

[WornOutLife]

I think you're meant to disagree with all of them

Haha I actually agree with some of them, for instance, this one:

"People who die by suicide, don't warn others. "

That's so true for me!

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Haha I actually agree with some of them, for instance, this one:

"People who die by suicide, don't warn others. "

That's so true for me!

Right, the wording is a bit shady on that one, too. Most (80%) people would not call a friend right before taking taking SN or fitting the noose (for obvious reasons) but they would have reached out a few weeks prior.

 

[DocNo]

Haha I actually agree with some of them, for instance, this one:

"People who die by suicide, don't warn others. "

That's so true for me!

my rule number one: don't tell anybody!

 

[aneurysm]

"The highest rates of suicide occur within about three months of an apparent improvement in a severely depressed state."

...

"Energy level is the important factor in someone who's improving having the energy to act on a suicidal impulse"

eerie.

but this explains everything.

I was too depressed to kill myself so my subconscious mind has upgraded it's strategy and is now trying to store enough energy for me to use later for suicide.

and I naïvely thought I was getting better...

actually no.

Deep down I always know.

 

[Euthanza]

Sui + cidium + logia, the study of killing oneself has atributed itself to "prevention" at all level instead of "facilitation" to a rational, peaceful and dignified end.
They read thousands years of history but forgot it all of the sudden due to the irrational fear of death.

In Western thought, suicide has evolved from sin to sin–and–crime, to crime, to mental illness, and to semilegal act. A legal act is one we are free to think and speak about and plan and perform, without penalty by agents of the state. While dying voluntarily is ostensibly legal, suicide attempts and even suicidal thoughts are routinely punished by incarceration in a psychiatric institution. Although many people believe the prevention of suicide is one of the duties the modern state owes its citizens, Szasz argues that suicide is a basic human right and that the lengths to which the medical industry goes to prevent it represent a deprivation of that right. Drawing on his general theory of the myth of mental illness, Szasz makes a compelling case that the voluntary termination of one's own life is the result of a decision, not a disease.

 

[Alex6216]

"Energy level is the important factor in someone who's improving having the energy to act on a suicidal impulse" What the fuck is energy level, shouldnt it be 'motivation' since it would make more sense. People aren't robots god dammit!

 

[seaweaves]

"Energy level is the important factor in someone who's improving having the energy to act on a suicidal impulse" What the fuck is energy level, shouldnt it be 'motivation' since it would make more sense. People aren't robots god dammit!

We use "motivation" in a lot of ways in English. In medical /scientific use, "motivation" usually only means a desire or intention, which is probably why it's not used here.

Energy level matters more to them than intention, because very few people who experience suicidal ideations actually attempt or die by suicide. Suicidologists really struggle to find what "predicts" suicide (the idea that mental illness predicts suicide deaths should be among the myths imho).

What we do know is that it's hard to kill yourself if you literally don't have the energy to. So, they wouldn't use the word motivation both because it has a more mental than energetic meaning in human sciences, and because it's not really predictive even if it's important.

 

[FuneralCry]

This is a interesting post. Society should realise that being able to talk about suicide is actually beneficial, as censoring everything in relation to suicide would just make people feel more isolated and desperate. I feel like in general, suicide should not be so stigmatised and it should be seen as a human right. To me there is nothing wrong with someone deciding to leave a world they never asked to be born into.

 

[Euthanza]

I think suicidology has become one of the biggest scam industry. People who intensively are studying how to be chef but then become anti-food whereas main principal is "never ever talk about method of good cooking". Bollocks!

 

[All-Dead-Y]

People who die by suicide don't warn others.

Out of ten people who kill themselves, eight have given definite clues to their intentions. They leave numerous clues and warnings to others, although some of their clues may be non-verbal or difficult to detect.

This seems a bit weird to me since it implies suicidal people are leaving intentional clues that they're going to kill themselves. Who's to say they aren't just trying to get their affairs in order before they die so things go smoothly? If I were to clean and sort my objects before I die so my family can easily get rid of them, would that be considered "A clue"? Even if I didn't want people to know? It makes it sounds like a weird game