Something fishy going on here

[U. A.]

Can you give us an example of the type of response you were hoping for when you posted this?

Of course not (or if so, utterly unrealistic).

 

[jatty]

i see some people hating.. i kind of agree with you though
there has been a good amount of people ive seen fear monger about shotguns?
a deep intraoral 12 gauge? and people are saying "well, you COULD LIVE.."
its a literal shotgun and the bullet moves faster than the speed of sound. and people fear monger about that.
genuinely. it perplexes me how its even conceivable to survive that and people still try to convince otherwise

 

[AreWeWinning]

I wonder if the drugs/poisons included SN because that is a very low rate

By definition, I would say yes, they did. However, SN became popular only recently, and these studies are a few years old. I don't have anything to back this up, but SN attempts are still probably just a small portion of all self-poisoning attempts. Just because SN has a higher success rate compared to other poisons, the number of SN attempts might still not be enough to move the needle significantly in these statistics.

Also, SN might not be as effective as you think. Even here, a lot of people fail with it. SN can be successful if someone follows the standard, recommended protocol. However, not everyone can do that. It requires getting antiemetics, which is not easy. It also requires careful planning, ensuring the person is not found and saved, ensuring they don't back out and call an ambulance themselves, etc. Planning and executing a successful attempt is not easy.

These two effects combined might explain why SN attempts can be included in the statistics, while the overall success rate of self-poisoning attempts remains so low.

 

[mychois]

IMHO, a fuckedup life should be better than a further fuckedup one.

I have found some examples of failed attempts with shotgun.

* WARNING: WHAT IS SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN.

* YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED!

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/gore/post/391855/brutally-failed-suicide-attempt

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/gore/post/366763/man-survived-shotgun-suicide-attempt-after

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/gore/post/363599/failed-shotgun-suicide-marseyshredded

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/gore/post/267510/failed-attempt-with-shotgun-aftermath-marseyshooting

Ok, so just jump twice.

The second attempt may not be that easy:

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/344404/a-person-in-a-wheelchair-commits

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/accident/post/285301/reuploaddisabled-idiot-falls-to-his-death

 

[Exhausted546]

I've noticed that some of the advice here makes CTB sound much more "difficult" than what medical facts show. Some comments from "old members" feel like they want and keep suggesting that well-known painless methods do not work AT ALL!!
This is a space meant for helping people with their choices. If you are here to push a "pro-life" agenda, this isn't a place for that.
Everyone has a right to their beliefs, but they should be practiced elsewhere—not here, where people are looking for a peaceful departure.

Unrelated but I went on suicidewatch and after someone asked how painful hanging was theu were claiming hanging was terrible and that the person stayed conscious while strangled for several unbearable minutes before losing consciousness.... That's just plain untrue