Help Should I take my cat when I cross?Your opinion?

[Tulsa Sam 52]

This is a tough one if you love animals, but I need your opinions. My companion of thirty plus years was kidnapped by a nursing home (oh, yes it happens read my other blogs . . . I will update), leaving her cat in my care.

I am very much a cat (and dog) person, and have had and rescued dozens and dozens of cats and dogs over my 60+ years. Diane's cat "Twizzler" is HIGHLY SENSITIVE! With her "family," suddenly gone (Fred, Diane, Sparkle - it's a long story) she went into deep mourning and confusion.

Of course I tried to fill their place, and I gave her the kind of loving that cats especially appreciate, but even with my decades of knowing what cats like, it took me months to gain her real trust, and she has known me for her entire life.

Even though I fed her what she liked to eat, and the most gentle and loving attention, she grieved for them constantly, would stare at their empty chairs, lost most of her fur, and was reduced to skin and bones. I truly didn't see how she could continue much longer. She looked like a walking skeleton with most of her fur gone.

However with my continued loving attention I slowly gained her confidence and she has returned to better health and weight, though she still looks awful.

HERE IS MY IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER QUESTION: Due to Pennsylvania's third world legal system and corrupt courts, I will be homeless in a couple of weeks. At 73 I will NOT be homeless; my plans to CTB are well set and I will cross over because I have no choice. BUT, WHAT DO I DO WITH TWIZZLER the cat? I have tried to re-home her, but no one wants her. She is almost 15 so is nearing the end of her life. The local shelter might take her, but I cannot imagine anyone adopting her. AND if she went into such an anxiety spiral with someone she has known and trusted her entire life, and while still living in the same house she has lived in for the last ten years, what might it do to her to be stuck in a cage in a place she doesn't know, surrounded by strange people and animals? I think it would be a living hell for her. A final torment in her last years.

Twizzler wants to be with me all the time. She sleeps on my shoulder all night, and is stretched out beside me as I write this. She is miserable whenever she is not with me.

I have read a great deal about life after death and there is a strong consensus out pets cross over just as humans do. But what is more humane? Do I abandon her when I CTB, or is it more humane to have her put to sleep and meet her in the next world?

The hardest thing I have had to do is to have a pet put to sleep to end its suffering, but that was always at the advice of a vet. Twizzler is very old but what is more humane? To abandon her here knowing her life will almost certainly be frightening and lonely in a cage until she dies, or let her cross peacefully in the hope we will meet in the next world within a few days? What would you do?

 

[TBONTB]

This is a tough one if you love animals, but I need your opinions. My companion of thirty plus years was kidnapped by a nursing home (oh, yes it happens read my other blogs . . . I will update), leaving her cat in my care.

I am very much a cat (and dog) person, and have had and rescued dozens and dozens of cats and dogs over my 60+ years. Diane's cat "Twizzler" is HIGHLY SENSITIVE! With her "family," suddenly gone (Fred, Diane, Sparkle - it's a long story) she went into deep mourning and confusion.

Of course I tried to fill their place, and I gave her the kind of loving that cats especially appreciate, but even with my decades of knowing what cats like, it took me months to gain her real trust, and she has known me for her entire life.

Even though I fed her what she liked to eat, and the most gentle and loving attention, she grieved for them constantly, would stare at their empty chairs, lost most of her fur, and was reduced to skin and bones. I truly didn't see how she could continue much longer. She looked like a walking skeleton with most of her fur gone.

However with my continued loving attention I slowly gained her confidence and she has returned to better health and weight, though she still looks awful.

HERE IS MY IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER QUESTION: Due to Pennsylvania's third world legal system and corrupt courts, I will be homeless in a couple of weeks. At 73 I will NOT be homeless; my plans to CTB are well set and I will cross over because I have no choice. BUT, WHAT DO I DO WITH TWIZZLER the cat? I have tried to re-home her, but no one wants her. She is almost 15 so is nearing the end of her life. The local shelter might take her, but I cannot imagine anyone adopting her. AND if she went into such an anxiety spiral with someone she has known and trusted her entire life, and while still living in the same house she has lived in for the last ten years, what might it do to her to be stuck in a cage in a place she doesn't know, surrounded by strange people and animals? I think it would be a living hell for her. A final torment in her last years.

Twizzler wants to be with me all the time. She sleeps on my shoulder all night, and is stretched out beside me as I write this. She is miserable whenever she is not with me.

I have read a great deal about life after death and there is a strong consensus out pets cross over just as humans do. But what is more humane? Do I abandon her when I CTB, or is it more humane to have her put to sleep and meet her in the next world?

The hardest thing I have had to do is to have a pet put to sleep to end its suffering, but that was always at the advice of a vet. Twizzler is very old but what is more humane? To abandon her here knowing her life will almost certainly be frightening and lonely in a cage until she dies, or let her cross peacefully in the hope we will meet in the next world within a few days? What would you do?

I am very old (63) So my ideas are sort of out of sync with the world. But given her advanced age I would be comfortable putting her down. Just me, I know others would disagree...and hopefully some will! (Although then you still won't know what to do!)

 

[whywere]

If it was me, I would:

1st Ask around to friends and neighbors if they would love to have a loving pet.

2nd If not, then I would take the pet to a humane shelter.

3rd If there is no 100% viable option, then I would have a vet put the pet to sleep.

I grew up on a dairy farm in the middle of now where and every once in a while, almost always a dog, would be on the gravel road. I would take them in and feed, house and love them.

For me, dumping a pet in the wild, is horrible beyond words and what I saw growing up with abandoned pets that I would take in broke my heart. Dirty, completely scared, out of their mind and so very hungry always.

Also, I am 69, and I care about you VERY much, as we are family here and I will say a prayer for you when I retire this evening.

Walter

 

[58Alice85]

If they are gonna be locked up, 100 percent you should euthanise them

 

[Hollowman]

Letting her cross peacefully would be the best thing in my opinion. Sorry you're in this situation. I've had to have two pets put down recently. It's awful.

 

[falling-apart]

As much as I hate saying this, I think you should find a humane way to put her down with you. You'll have to be careful, though, because some of that could arouse suspicion (depending on your history, I know if I started giving things away I'd have an immediate eye kept on me)

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

I am very old (63) So my ideas are sort of out of sync with the world. But given her advanced age I would be comfortable putting her down. Just me, I know others would disagree...and hopefully some will! (Although then you still won't know what to do!)

Thank you TBONTB. After the hell Pennsylvania has put me through and the agony of having to CTB, I am not sure of my own rationality. I cannot rescue my wife and best friend of thirty years from Pennsylvania's state-sanctioned human trafficking operation. One attorney said I might be able to ransom her for about $12,000, but that is just the beginning. I don't have the money to ransom her, and the corrupt courts have made sure I will be homeless at the end of the month. Do I sound crazy? It is absolutely crazy, and beyond evil, but it is completely true. The Nursing Home crime syndicate is very powerful in Pennsylvania and no one is brave enough to oppose them. STAY OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA!
As horrible as CTB is, it is safer than getting trapped in the Pennsylvania human trafficking network. And if I can't save my wife, i can remove myself and my wife's cat. My wife will end her life in captivity in a tiny room being bled for her Social Security and there is nothing I can do, but I can make sure Twizzler doesn't end her life in fear and misery.
I had expected most people to disagree with me, but everyone so far has felt it would be better for Twizzler to end her life in peace. Perhaps I still have some rationality left.
Thanks again. (Twizzler has just finished a nice late night snack and is happily curled up besides me. We will both be happier in the next world.) When the anxiety of CTB gets too much I keep telling myself "I'm finally going Home again" . I will be back with all I have loved and lost including all my fur and feather children and I won't have left Twizzler behind.

If it was me, I would:

1st Ask around to friends and neighbors if they would love to have a loving pet.

2nd If not, then I would take the pet to a humane shelter.

3rd If there is no 100% viable option, then I would have a vet put the pet to sleep.

I grew up on a dairy farm in the middle of now where and every once in a while, almost always a dog, would be on the gravel road. I would take them in and feed, house and love them.

For me, dumping a pet in the wild, is horrible beyond words and what I saw growing up with abandoned pets that I would take in broke my heart. Dirty, completely scared, out of their mind and so very hungry always.

Also, I am 69, and I care about you VERY much, as we are family here and I will say a prayer for you when I retire this evening.

Walter

Thank you very much Walter. I know so few people anymore! I suspect all the people I once knew are partying down "on the Other Side". (How did I get stuck here?) "Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights?" --- I guess that means me.
I do have one friend who is a confirmed dog lover, which is fine; I love dogs too. She said she had a friend who is a cat lover and would ask her, but so far nothing. I mentioned Twizzler to a couple of brothers of an acquaintance I once knew in Baltimore, but they showed no interest. That wasn't necessarily bad, I wouldn't want them to have her anyway, they're not the right type. Twizzler is so sensitive she needs the right kind of "family". I have had to be sooooo gentle with her to earn her trust.
The only shelter around here is the SPCA; all the other one-time shelters have defaulted to them. But you know they have so many animals coming through they won't take the time to match the pet to the owner. "Move 'em in, move 'em out." When Twizzler gets nervous she loses all of her fur, then she looks like she has mange and people don't want her. People can be so cruel to animals! I can't stand it. They can't take up for themselves.
Thank you for your very kind prayers; goodness knows we need them.
By the way my name is Walter also. There aren't a lot of us around. I am the 3rd, so we have had a continuous string of Walters since 1895. It's a good name.

 

[aria_of_a_dream]

Are you absolutely sure you will be homeless?

I would look for a no - kill shelter to take him, but if he is really attached to you I wouldn't do that until you know 100% you will be homeless.

Just because the cat is 15 doesn't mean it won't get adopted, some people specifically try to adopt elderly cats for varying reasons .

 

[hell toupee]

Sam,

I don't think you sound crazy at all. You sound like a rational person responding to an extreme situation.

I lost my own wife and best friend of 24 years last year. I also became disabled in that time. What I went through was and still is horrible, but I can't imagine the frustration you must feel. Having your wife trapped like that. I really do feel for you. And then facing being homeless - I know the feeling. Plus the anxiety of ctb. Its enough to drive anyone crazy.

If i had a quick and easy way, I wouldn't be as stressed. I have no problem with actual ctb because I don't personally believe its the end.

Just don't let anyone tell you that you are crazy because you aren't. A lot of people would crumble facing the stuff you are.

 

[PI3.14]

I'm a huge cats lover, and I do have a 3.5yo cat that I had since she was 2.5 months old. She's like my daughter and in fact I regard her as such, she is indeed my beloved baby.

She is also extremely attached to me. She gets along with the rest of the family but she isn't attached to them. She sleeps on my bed everyday, sometimes even next to me.

Now, if I knew for sure that my cat doesn't like to be with anyone else other than me and that I'm the only one she likes and that the alternatives are she being put in a cage or end up on the streets or something.

Then, and I know this is very controversial, I'll probably end up taking my cat with me. I can't leave her to suffer, ever. She's everything to me and the whole world shall burn to the ground before I let such a thing happen to her.

I'm so sorry you're in this difficult position.

 

[SissySteph]

Twizzler is a GREAT name for a cat! Sad to hear about your situation but impressed how you've looked after Twizzler after your wife left.

 

[Joarga]

¿No puedes ingresar en la misma residencia en la que está tu mujer?

 

[CatLvr]

Man, this is my worst fear. I have had pets my entire life and therefore have had to euthanize more than a few in my time. It is never easy, even though you know you are doing the right thing. And Twizzler is a beautiful name for a cat. (I have a MissPriss, Harvey, Garfield, FatBastard, BatCat, and Violet now and each one of them earned their names by virtue of their personality. Lol) I can tell you are agonizing over the loss of your spouse, and soon your home. I will NEVER understand how the world can be so cruel. Like others here, I don't think I could leave Twizzler behind if I CTB. You are right -- she will not understand and will live the rest of her life in paralyzing fear if you leave her behind. I would not be able to do that to her.

 

[whywere]

Thank you TBONTB. After the hell Pennsylvania has put me through and the agony of having to CTB, I am not sure of my own rationality. I cannot rescue my wife and best friend of thirty years from Pennsylvania's state-sanctioned human trafficking operation. One attorney said I might be able to ransom her for about $12,000, but that is just the beginning. I don't have the money to ransom her, and the corrupt courts have made sure I will be homeless at the end of the month. Do I sound crazy? It is absolutely crazy, and beyond evil, but it is completely true. The Nursing Home crime syndicate is very powerful in Pennsylvania and no one is brave enough to oppose them. STAY OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA!
As horrible as CTB is, it is safer than getting trapped in the Pennsylvania human trafficking network. And if I can't save my wife, i can remove myself and my wife's cat. My wife will end her life in captivity in a tiny room being bled for her Social Security and there is nothing I can do, but I can make sure Twizzler doesn't end her life in fear and misery.
I had expected most people to disagree with me, but everyone so far has felt it would be better for Twizzler to end her life in peace. Perhaps I still have some rationality left.
Thanks again. (Twizzler has just finished a nice late night snack and is happily curled up besides me. We will both be happier in the next world.) When the anxiety of CTB gets too much I keep telling myself "I'm finally going Home again" . I will be back with all I have loved and lost including all my fur and feather children and I won't have left Twizzler behind.



Thank you very much Walter. I know so few people anymore! I suspect all the people I once knew are partying down "on the Other Side". (How did I get stuck here?) "Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights?" --- I guess that means me.
I do have one friend who is a confirmed dog lover, which is fine; I love dogs too. She said she had a friend who is a cat lover and would ask her, but so far nothing. I mentioned Twizzler to a couple of brothers of an acquaintance I once knew in Baltimore, but they showed no interest. That wasn't necessarily bad, I wouldn't want them to have her anyway, they're not the right type. Twizzler is so sensitive she needs the right kind of "family". I have had to be sooooo gentle with her to earn her trust.
The only shelter around here is the SPCA; all the other one-time shelters have defaulted to them. But you know they have so many animals coming through they won't take the time to match the pet to the owner. "Move 'em in, move 'em out." When Twizzler gets nervous she loses all of her fur, then she looks like she has mange and people don't want her. People can be so cruel to animals! I can't stand it. They can't take up for themselves.
Thank you for your very kind prayers; goodness knows we need them.
By the way my name is Walter also. There aren't a lot of us around. I am the 3rd, so we have had a continuous string of Walters since 1895. It's a good name.

Thank you for the very kind message.

My side came from Germany, and I have done as much research as I can, and there has been a Walter in my family since around 1800.

It is SO darn nice having another Walter here, see FAMILY here. This is what this site is ALL about FAMILY.

I wish you the very best Friday and a lovely weekend filled with sunny skies and smiles.

Walter (The other Walter) here!

 

[TwilightSylph]

I don't have any advice but I also have 2 cats (1 very elderly and sick) and am currently trying to decide the best way forward for them to have the best chance. I understand why this is an option you're considering. I hope the best for you and Twizzler <3

 

[NellyGoes]

This is a tough one if you love animals, but I need your opinions. My companion of thirty plus years was kidnapped by a nursing home (oh, yes it happens read my other blogs . . . I will update), leaving her cat in my care.

I am very much a cat (and dog) person, and have had and rescued dozens and dozens of cats and dogs over my 60+ years. Diane's cat "Twizzler" is HIGHLY SENSITIVE! With her "family," suddenly gone (Fred, Diane, Sparkle - it's a long story) she went into deep mourning and confusion.

Of course I tried to fill their place, and I gave her the kind of loving that cats especially appreciate, but even with my decades of knowing what cats like, it took me months to gain her real trust, and she has known me for her entire life.

Even though I fed her what she liked to eat, and the most gentle and loving attention, she grieved for them constantly, would stare at their empty chairs, lost most of her fur, and was reduced to skin and bones. I truly didn't see how she could continue much longer. She looked like a walking skeleton with most of her fur gone.

However with my continued loving attention I slowly gained her confidence and she has returned to better health and weight, though she still looks awful.

HERE IS MY IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER QUESTION: Due to Pennsylvania's third world legal system and corrupt courts, I will be homeless in a couple of weeks. At 73 I will NOT be homeless; my plans to CTB are well set and I will cross over because I have no choice. BUT, WHAT DO I DO WITH TWIZZLER the cat? I have tried to re-home her, but no one wants her. She is almost 15 so is nearing the end of her life. The local shelter might take her, but I cannot imagine anyone adopting her. AND if she went into such an anxiety spiral with someone she has known and trusted her entire life, and while still living in the same house she has lived in for the last ten years, what might it do to her to be stuck in a cage in a place she doesn't know, surrounded by strange people and animals? I think it would be a living hell for her. A final torment in her last years.

Twizzler wants to be with me all the time. She sleeps on my shoulder all night, and is stretched out beside me as I write this. She is miserable whenever she is not with me.

I have read a great deal about life after death and there is a strong consensus out pets cross over just as humans do. But what is more humane? Do I abandon her when I CTB, or is it more humane to have her put to sleep and meet her in the next world?

The hardest thing I have had to do is to have a pet put to sleep to end its suffering, but that was always at the advice of a vet. Twizzler is very old but what is more humane? To abandon her here knowing her life will almost certainly be frightening and lonely in a cage until she dies, or let her cross peacefully in the hope we will meet in the next world within a few days? What would you do?

Tulsa Sam/Walter,
I am so sorry for what you are facing. When I first read the title of your post my initial reaction was "absolutely not are you crazy to even think about that??" (I am a huge animal lover, even more so than of humans if I'm being honest). But then I read your story and my heart just breaks for you, your wife, and your sweet baby Twizzler. Given her age and health (and cats can get very very anxious — it's torture for them just like for humans), a peaceful exit may be the most humane for her.

I am so sorry and so disgusted for all of our broken and corrupt and abusive systems. I can't even contain my anger about it, so I won't get into it all. But my heart aches for you and your wife and everyone you take care of. I find solace in the belief that "on the other side", all of us will be free of pain. I believe that's something that's waiting for all of us.

The only thing I'd also say is please wait until you're absolutely certain that you will be homeless (and again I'm so sorry!! Ugh how I hate all our useless systems!). For older cats there are generally no "no kill" shelters. Almost any shelter will euthanize them within 24 hours, especially if they look sick (it's an exception even for "no kill" shelters).

I will keep you in my thoughts. Please keep us updated on your journey if you wish. Sending so much love to you, your wife and Twizzler.

 

[2muchpain2]

This is a tough one if you love animals, but I need your opinions. My companion of thirty plus years was kidnapped by a nursing home (oh, yes it happens read my other blogs . . . I will update), leaving her cat in my care.

I am very much a cat (and dog) person, and have had and rescued dozens and dozens of cats and dogs over my 60+ years. Diane's cat "Twizzler" is HIGHLY SENSITIVE! With her "family," suddenly gone (Fred, Diane, Sparkle - it's a long story) she went into deep mourning and confusion.

Of course I tried to fill their place, and I gave her the kind of loving that cats especially appreciate, but even with my decades of knowing what cats like, it took me months to gain her real trust, and she has known me for her entire life.

Even though I fed her what she liked to eat, and the most gentle and loving attention, she grieved for them constantly, would stare at their empty chairs, lost most of her fur, and was reduced to skin and bones. I truly didn't see how she could continue much longer. She looked like a walking skeleton with most of her fur gone.

However with my continued loving attention I slowly gained her confidence and she has returned to better health and weight, though she still looks awful.

HERE IS MY IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER QUESTION: Due to Pennsylvania's third world legal system and corrupt courts, I will be homeless in a couple of weeks. At 73 I will NOT be homeless; my plans to CTB are well set and I will cross over because I have no choice. BUT, WHAT DO I DO WITH TWIZZLER the cat? I have tried to re-home her, but no one wants her. She is almost 15 so is nearing the end of her life. The local shelter might take her, but I cannot imagine anyone adopting her. AND if she went into such an anxiety spiral with someone she has known and trusted her entire life, and while still living in the same house she has lived in for the last ten years, what might it do to her to be stuck in a cage in a place she doesn't know, surrounded by strange people and animals? I think it would be a living hell for her. A final torment in her last years.

Twizzler wants to be with me all the time. She sleeps on my shoulder all night, and is stretched out beside me as I write this. She is miserable whenever she is not with me.

I have read a great deal about life after death and there is a strong consensus out pets cross over just as humans do. But what is more humane? Do I abandon her when I CTB, or is it more humane to have her put to sleep and meet her in the next world?

The hardest thing I have had to do is to have a pet put to sleep to end its suffering, but that was always at the advice of a vet. Twizzler is very old but what is more humane? To abandon her here knowing her life will almost certainly be frightening and lonely in a cage until she dies, or let her cross peacefully in the hope we will meet in the next world within a few days? What would you do?

omg this whole dilemma breaks my damn heart. I think I would humanely euthanize her, OR, see if a cat rescue will let her live out her years there since she's a senior cat. Non of this is easy. I'm sorry you are going thru this.
May I ask how you will ctb?

 

[iblori]

I'm a huge cats lover, and I do have a 3.5yo cat that I had since she was 2.5 months old. She's like my daughter and in fact I regard her as such, she is indeed my beloved baby.

She is also extremely attached to me. She gets along with the rest of the family but she isn't attached to them. She sleeps on my bed everyday, sometimes even next to me.

Now, if I knew for sure that my cat doesn't like to be with anyone else other than me and that I'm the only one she likes and that the alternatives are she being put in a cage or end up on the streets or something.

Then, and I know this is very controversial, I'll probably end up taking my cat with me. I can't leave her to suffer, ever. She's everything to me and the whole world shall burn to the ground before I let such a thing happen to her.

I'm so sorry you're in this difficult position.

That's exactly what I plan on doing. I have three little dogs and nobody will ever love them or take care of them like I do. And they're older and have some health issues so they would probably never get adopted. So when I go, they're going with me. If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for them. I'm living on the streets anyway. So we'll all go together. We will not be separated.

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

If they are gonna be locked up, 100 percent you should euthanise them

Thank you 58Alice85
When my wife first got Twizzler she lived in a very rural area: horses on one side and a dairy farm on the other. And there was always an opening where she and Diane's other cat could come and go as they pleased. So they learned to be outdoor as well as indoor cats and there was no breaking them. When we moved to a more crowded community we tried to keep them in -- No, absolutely not, wasn't gonna happen. After a year we gave up! The neighborhood wasn't dangerous so they got to have it their way. Whoever got Twizzler would HAVE to understand she truly needs to go out! I prefer to keep cats in the safety of a home, but Twizzler MUST have what makes her happy. And a cage in a shelter, or being forced to stay in would be terribly cruel and would probably break her.

 

[Black Sheep One]

When I leave this rock for a new place called heaven, the animals that left before me will keep me busy. The animals I left behind will catch up with me. I won't mess a thing...

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

Thank you for the very kind message.

My side came from Germany, and I have done as much research as I can, and there has been a Walter in my family since around 1800.

It is SO darn nice having another Walter here, see FAMILY here. This is what this site is ALL about FAMILY.

I wish you the very best Friday and a lovely weekend filled with sunny skies and smiles.

Walter (The other Walter) here!

Hi Walter. My family came from Germany as well, and were some of the hoards that migrated across the country to Texas at the end of the 19th century. That was a looooong trip from Germany, across the Atlantic, and all the way to Texas so they really had to want to get there. On the other hand they ended up in Texas, which is the absolute BEST place in the universe. Just ask a Texan! Or save yourself the trouble because they will tell you without your asking. No, I'm being mean, Texas truly is great. I always had a wonderful time when I visited my family there. I had some friends who were going to visit San Antonio and asked my advice on what to do. I suggested they visit the Alamo, then spend the rest of their time EATING! They were serious eaters anyway, but the food and the restaurants in San Antonio, well you spend your time in a rage of frustration because you can't begin to eat at all the places you want to try. They had travelled all over the world but they had to admit my advise to EAT, EAT, EAT was the best advice I could have given them.

 

[sanctionedusage]

saddest question ever, wow. has she gotten a checkup recently? at 15 she might already have some health issues that would make that conversation with a vet easier. i don't have a proper opinion here, just a thought.

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

When I leave this rock for a new place called heaven, the animals that left before me will keep me busy. The animals I left behind will catch up with me. I won't mess a thing...

Are there any reports of spirits being stampeded to death (well, we'd already be dead) by the greetings of their pets on the Other Side? I have so many dear ones waiting there and I miss them so much. Of course there is my Human family as well who I miss more than I can say. I have no family and no friends left. I cannot rescue my wife, which sickens me beyond description. I might be somewhat more inclined to let Twizzler take her chances here, but I don't want to leave any living creature here. Do I have the right to decide for her? I'm not God! But I must do what I feel is the ultimate kindness as I see it. Let us all get out of this mini-hell and safely across where all suffering is over and all is well and loving. If I could help my wife escape my work will be complete. My suicide "note" is eight pages long, detailing my wife's being imprisoned in a so-called nursing home, which is a human trafficking ring in York, PA. If my death can raise awareness of her plight, and others that are being held prisoner there and in other similar

When I leave this rock for a new place called heaven, the animals that left before me will keep me busy. The animals I left behind will catch up with me. I won't mess a thing...

When I leave this rock for a new place called heaven, the animals that left before me will keep me busy. The animals I left behind will catch up with me. I won't mess a thing...

2025-09-18
For Black Sheep one

Are there any reports of spirits being stampeded to death (well, we'd already be dead) by the greetings of their pets on the Other Side? I have so many dear ones waiting there and I miss them so much. Of course there is my Human family as well who I miss more than I can say. I have no family and no friends left. I cannot rescue my wife, which sickens me beyond description. I might be somewhat more inclined to let Twizzler take her chances here, but I don't want to leave any living creature on this wretched planet. Do I have the right to decide for her? I'm not God! But I must do what I feel is the ultimate kindness as I see it. Let us all get out of this mini-hell and safely across where all suffering is over and all is well and loving. If I could help my wife escape my work will be complete. My suicide "note" is eight pages long, detailing my wife's being imprisoned in a so-called nursing home, which is a human trafficking ring in York, PA. If my death can raise awareness of her plight, and others that are being held prisoner there and in other similar gulags in America, and I can rescue our last pet, I shall consider my CTB my final contribution to good.

If they are gonna be locked up, 100 percent you should euthanise them

Thank you 58Alice85 I appreciate your support in giving me your opinion that I follow my awful but more humane inclinations. When faced with two awful choices having the thoughtful support of other caring and loving people is a tremendous help. I am totally and completely alone so this community is a tremendous help.

 

[emptymiku]

before you decide anything, please consider truly whether ot not you actually want to ctb. the last thing you would want would be to put down the cat and then decide you want to keep going. please ask around for everyone who could take her. post on social medias, call anyone youve ever really known, just do anything you can go try and rehome her instead of putting her down. i wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to pursue, and please keep the cat's best interests in mind.

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

Letting her cross peacefully would be the best thing in my opinion. Sorry you're in this situation. I've had to have two pets put down recently. It's awful.

Only three months ago one of my housemates wonderful dog Sparkle lost her ability to walk. But Fred couldn't stand to put her down, quite understandably. He would carry her in and out several times a day. Then he became suddenly ill and eventually went to the hospital where he was diagnosed with liver cancer. He is in hospice now, and we discovered the dog "Sparkle" had internal tumors. Fred no longer had to play the "Executioner" and designated to me the responsibility to have Sparkle put down. I will never forget how she looked at me. She knew something terrible was coming, and I had to give the order to end her life. Having had so many animals throughout my entire life, being cast as the Executioner was not new, but it never gets better. I just want OUT and I want every living creature freed from this living nightmare. As an example, if your house caught fire would you run out the door leaving everyone else inside? Of course not! You would do everything possible to get your family and pets out. That is how I feel about the "burning building" that is this world. I hate being the executioner for Twizzler, but I hate even more leaving her alone and helpless in this world. (BTW, if anyone in the next life even suggests reincarnation back to this horror show, I promise them a bloody nose! And I am hardly a violent man.)

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

Can you call 911 and raise a scene at the facility where your wife is being kept? A friend of my mom got 'rescued' from a nursing home during covid when her daughter showed up with the cops.

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

before you decide anything, please consider truly whether ot not you actually want to ctb. the last thing you would want would be to put down the cat and then decide you want to keep going. please ask around for everyone who could take her. post on social medias, call anyone youve ever really known, just do anything you can go try and rehome her instead of putting her down. i wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to pursue, and please keep the cat's best interests in mind.

Hi emptymiku:
I absolutely don't want to CTB, but I have no choice. I am 73 and entirely alone. My wife went to a rehab facility for a brief treatment for her ankle, which should have taken only a month. But once the gulag realized it took both of our incomes to keep the house, they held her hostage so we would lose the house and they could keep her for the rest of her life. I had Power of Attorney, but they ignored it. They knew Pennsylvania has no interest in victims of human trafficking and the nursing home cartel owns the government. You say it can't happen in America, but it can in Pennsylvania. I have created an eight page PDF which will act my suicide letter, and I name names! I am also distributing the PDF without the suicide aspect for anyone to include as an attachment to send to anyone they wish to. I don't expect it to free Diane; she will die in captivity, but at least the information will be out there. MY ADVICE IS TO AVOID PENNSYLVANIA AT ALL COSTS. If you are a victim here, the government doesn't give a d**n. You have been warned.
I will never see my wife again in this world, we shall have to die to be together again. Only then will she know how hard I worked to obtain her freedom.
At 73 I am terrified to remain in Pennsylvania. I have seen the gulags like Diane is trapped in and they are horrifying. My advice is if you are in Pennsylvania end your life before they trap you. I will not deny the idea of CTB frightens me a lot, but the Pennsylvania Gulags terrify me more.
And I don't want to leave Twizzler behind. There is no one who will take her and she would be terrified and lost without anyone she knows. The choice is between the intolerable and the unthinkable.

As much as I hate saying this, I think you should find a humane way to put her down with you. You'll have to be careful, though, because some of that could arouse suspicion (depending on your history, I know if I started giving things away I'd have an immediate eye kept on me)

Hi falling-apart. One blessing about being old and alone is nobody cares about you in the least. I leave no one to grieve me (except Twizzler who will wonder what happened to the last human she ever knew or trusted if I don't take her with me.)
I have decided to create a basic suicide message to be sent on timed email to my landlord about three days after I begin my CTB. That way if anything goes wrong (I'm using SN) I have time to cancel my suicide notice and try again later. Otherwise it might take months to find my corps. My landlord, who is not the nicest character, owns hundreds of units so suicide must not be entirely unknown to him. Once I am across and Diane dies and is freed from her captivity, everyone I ever cared about or cared about me will be safely on the Other Side. But oh, it is unbelievably hard! I am the last tree standing and the axes are chopping me on every side.

 

[MyUniqueUsername]

You're Story makes me so sad, it's pathetic how we treat people who are struggling and nobody cares, as long as it's not them. :(
I'm really sorry. (I know this doesn't help you 1 bit)

Hope you got Jesus before passing, even if you don't believe, if you think there is even a 0,1% chance it could be real, just make sure you think about it at least once. :)

 

[Tulsa Sam 52]

Sam,

I don't think you sound crazy at all. You sound like a rational person responding to an extreme situation.

I lost my own wife and best friend of 24 years last year. I also became disabled in that time. What I went through was and still is horrible, but I can't imagine the frustration you must feel. Having your wife trapped like that. I really do feel for you. And then facing being homeless - I know the feeling. Plus the anxiety of ctb. Its enough to drive anyone crazy.

If i had a quick and easy way, I wouldn't be as stressed. I have no problem with actual ctb because I don't personally believe its the end.

Just don't let anyone tell you that you are crazy because you aren't. A lot of people would crumble facing the stuff you are.

Dear hell toupee:
I offer you my deepest condolences for your losses, both your wife and your health. The ancient Stoic philosophers said we cannot know the future, but it is more likely to be worse than otherwise. As usual they were right!

I thank you also for reaffirming my sanity. You can only take so much and your mind begins to lose its elasticity; your thinking becomes alien to your normal nature and you begin to doubt yourself.

I have always been more intellectual than physical and I never saw myself as particularly strong. I always felt when the going got tough I'd be most likely to hide under the table. But there is no table to hide under and everything is up to me. Is this, my final act, designed to prove I had what I always doubted I had? (God could have just left a note on my voicemail. I would have believed Him; I didn't need proof!)

When my last relative passed away five years ago I knew I had to make plans for the future, because there wouldn't be anyone to watch out for me.

The choice comes down to length of life vs quality of life. The Stoics argued for quality of life and cautioned against the frailty and indignity of a life lived too long. Nor did they see anything wrong with choosing to end your life if Fate began abusing you too much. They said Nature was generous because it allows us only one way into life but many ways out.

I cared for several of my older relatives over the years and we were always there for them to the very end; no nursing homes ever. But there would be no one there for me. And I have visited other people in nursing homes and it gave me absolute chills!

So I chose to go out on my feet with my boots on which meant finding an acceptable way to make a dignified exit. As we know there are few "good" ways to go. Eventually I chose NI since it was the least violent and if it fails they're are no long term effects.

I have had it for some time so I have taken delivery of testing equipment to make sure it is still viable.

I have read and watched hundreds of hours on life after death and I really believe there is a wonderful life after this one. Even so I resonate with Woody Allen's quip, "I'm not afraid of dying; I just don't want to be there when it happens". It's the fear of the unknown. Our brains HATE the unknown. "Lord I believe; help thou mine unbelief."

So I take it one shakey step at a time, and I try to remember at 73 I am flying home anyway, and I will be much better off the sooner I get there. And if everything I have learned is true, Paradise and all those I have ever loved are only a breath away.

And I better get away before I really do crumble! For over 60 years I maintained the exact same weight +/- 8 pounds, but I have lost 30 pounds in the last three months! I cannot eat except perhaps a can of soup a day and only after a taking a 1mg Xanax.

If I am here to learn yet one more life lesson, I will take an "F"; I'm going home.

 

[Hvergelmir]

I absolutely don't want to CTB, but I have no choice.

If that's true, I just want to encourage a razor sharp problem solving mindset.

I obviously don't know the full extent of your situations, but outliving your cat, and visiting your wife occasionally, does not sound like an impossible objective.
Besides that it sounds like you want changes to the local system. If it's even a fraction as bad as you say, you will not alone.

Apologies for not having actionable advice, but I think there are people who do, if you ask the right questions.
I get that you're overwhelmed by impending homelessness and an oppressive system, but I'd like to at least try to shove feelings aside and examine your options.

What happens if you can't afford pay rent? Are you illegible for any kind of government support? Non-profit organizations?
The U.S. can be a ruthless place, but it's not known to let people starve on the street.

This is going to sound dystopian, but run your situation through chatGPT. See what it spits out.