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LoiteringClouds

LoiteringClouds

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Feb 7, 2023
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Actually is though, and so is abortion, and the insistence that they aren't is intellectually dishonest. Life ends when they're performed. That makes them acts of murder
According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, murder is "the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person."

Some people think suicide is unjustifiable, so suicide might be the act of unjustifiably killing a person, but in many jurisdiction it's no longer a crime. If suicide is a crime in a jurisdiction it can be murder, according to the law there.

The problem of the statement "suicide is murder" is that it implies suicide is extremely bad behaviour and nobody has the right to do that. Actually pro-lifers want to say we have no right to kill ourselves.
And bigger problem is that some people deliberately use the term in order to slander suicidal people.

Please let me know if I'm wrong. Thank you.

Personally I would never say "suicide is murder" even though suicide is killing. There's enough guilt accompanied with suicide, so I don't have to add insult to injury. In my opinion the word "killing" could be used instead of "murder."
And nobody except religious fundamentalists would want to call 9/11 jumpers "murderers," who have jumped from burning World Trade Center buildings and died.
 
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1MiserableGuy

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According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, murder is "the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person."

Some people think suicide is unjustifiable, so suicide might be the act of unjustifiably killing a person, but in many jurisdiction it's no longer a crime. If suicide is a crime in a jurisdiction it can be murder, according to the law there.

The problem of the statement "suicide is murder" is that it implies suicide is extremely bad behaviour and nobody has the right to do that. Actually pro-lifers want to say we have no right to kill ourselves.
And bigger problem is that some people deliberately use the term in order to slander suicidal people.

Please let me know if I'm wrong. Thank you.

Personally I would never say "suicide is murder" even though suicide is killing. There's enough guilt accompanied with suicide, so I don't have to add insult to injury. In my opinion the word "killing" could be used instead of "murder."
And nobody except religious fundamentalists would want to call 9/11 jumpers "murderers," who have jumped from burning World Trade Center buildings and died.
If the difference between a murder and a killing that isn't murder is justification, the lines become muddy, because people will justify any and everything they do, because that helps them sleep at night. But I'm guessing by justification that you mean legally protected killing, rather than a killing where you just excused yourself. In that case, carrying out death penalty or a holy war isn't murder, because it's legally sanctioned. You can have your cake, but you can't eat it too.
 
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skyfall

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call or text 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.
Hahaha, call 988 to commit "suicide by cop"?
 
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fleetingnight

fleetingnight

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May 2, 2024
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"Offer yourself/your suffering up to God"
 
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LoiteringClouds

LoiteringClouds

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"Try harder."
 
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skyfall

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"Suicide is selfish."
 
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"Your life isn't yours so you have no right to kill yourself."
 
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