Pro choice therapist

[Pure]

Where are they please.

I would kill for an impartial therapist that I could talk to.

Don't get me wrong I like SS but it doesn't replace human connection about talking about this stuff.

 

[Midgardsorm]

I think it would be impossible to find a pro choice therapist or at least very difficult because it goes against their profession's code.

It's their job to prevent suicide, so it might even be dangerous for them to do anything different. Maybe they could end up in jail or losing their license.

Maybe some of them are actually pro choice, but they need to follow the rules.

 

[Pure]

I think it would be impossible to find a pro choice therapist or at least very difficult because it goes against their profession's code.

It's their job to prevent suicide, so it might even be dangerous for them to do anything different. Maybe they could end up in jail or losing their license.

Yeah I know. Sucks ass

 

[Remember-Me-Not]

Yea confidential resources stop becoming confidential when they think you're in danger :/ There is no one to talk to without feeling the need to hide a part of my thoughts.

 

[Pure]

Yea confidential resources stop becoming confidential when they think you're in danger :/

Yep they make you sign a form acknowledging this.

 

[Seiba]

Legally, they are obligated to not be pro choice. Their life will be destroyed if it is shown that they could have prevented your death. The best alternative would be holding off on a plan (or lying about not having one) and trying to see if you can find who is supportive and helpful. The purpose of therapy is directly help people with living, not dying.

 

[Midgardsorm]

I remember the first time I said something related to suicide to a therapist, he stopped me at the moment saying "I do not treat people that wants to die, only people that want to live."
I took that as a warning.

Technically the helplines might be a place to talk to someone without the danger of being sectioned due to the privacy. But they are soooo untrained. Would be better to talk to a wall.
Maybe you can find someone here that can talk to you over discord.

I would love to chat with someone from here but my Brazilian accent would get in the way and even though I can listen to videos and movies in english, I might have trouble hearing the words.
Meh ...

 

[Pure]

I remember the first time I said something related to suicide to a therapist, he stopped me at the moment saying "I do not treat people that wants to die, only people that want to live."
I took that as a warning.

Wow, this is why I don't bother with therapy.

Only a pro choice one would be compatabile with me. Maybe if I found someone abroad whose country doesn't have the same prohibitions.

 

[Apricity]

They won't put a hold on you just for having thoughts, you must also have intent and a plan. I was told this by my psychiatrist. I am in California though, so laws may differ.

 

[Pure]

They won't put a hold on you just for having thoughts, you must also have intent and a plan. I was told this by my psychiatrist. I am in California though, so laws may differ.

Yeah I know. But I want a therapist who sees suicide as an option if things are bad enough

 

[Apricity]

Yeah I know. But I want a therapist who sees suicide as an option if things are bad enough

They are out there, but likely only supportive if you have a terminal illness or chronic disease that causes extreme pain.

 

[everydayiloveyou]

I remember the first time I said something related to suicide to a therapist, he stopped me at the moment saying "I do not treat people that wants to die, only people that want to live."
I took that as a warning.

Technically the helplines might be a place to talk to someone without the danger of being sectioned due to the privacy. But they are soooo untrained. Would be better to talk to a wall.
Maybe you can find someone here that can talk to you over discord.

I would love to chat with someone from here but my Brazilian accent would get in the way and even though I can listen to videos and movies in english, I might have trouble hearing the words.
Meh ...

Wow that is so inappropriate to say. I don't know how there are so many clinicians with no empathy or social skills.

In the USA they are trained not to say things like this if they want to maintain any sort of trust with the patient. It'd be like stopping someone from talking about childhood abuse and saying, "I only treat people who are focused on the present, not dwelling on the past"

For private practice where some clinicians prefer not to deal with suicidal patients, they are supposed to be polite and refer you out. After all if you wrote that they dismissed you in your suicide note and your family decided to sue, their malpractice insurance is gonna go wayyyy up!

Though the consequence is that some therapists will try to coax a suicidal response from you so they can section you due to liability reasons, and they'll tell you right before they're gonna send you away (informed consent). Somehow sending you to jail for being sad does not ruin the therapeutic relationship as much as stopping them from talking about it.

 

[dyingalone123]

I told my psyd that I was having suicidal thoughts and he dropped my ass - wanting to transfer me to an ocd specialist. What a scum. He's based in nyc - apparently he's a sleep doc whatever that means.

 

[Pure]

I told my psyd that I was having suicidal thoughts and he dropped my ass

Most therapists are terrified of suicidal patients because of the huge liability they face if we kill ourselves. Easier to immediately transfer out than deal with that. It's why I don't think outpatient therapy is useful for suicidal people tbh

 

[clown_17]

I've found self harm neutral therapists but never pro choice. What I mean is I used to have a therapist who said that as long as my self harm wasn't life threatening and it prevented my suicide it was okay. That's a bit of a rarity and it was refreshing to have someone who would focus on actual issues instead of what I do to cope. But for suicide it's against their code to be pro or neutral. Personally I think I wouldn't want a pro choice therapist because I'd like them to actually try with me. I can make my own suicide choice whether the therapist believes in it or not. But I feel therapy would be a waste if they just confirmed the obvious and said "yeah I can't help you're better off dead"

 

[tiredplant777]

I actually opened up to my therapist in my last session. It was a huge relief. She is a great person. It was easier for me because I currently don't have a plan and a method. I'm sure if I shared that it would have been different. She did tell me she believes I have a lot to live for. But I did tell her I want to die and I am pro choice in this matter and she understood. I realized how much I repress this part of myself.

 

[All-Dead-Y]

Wow, this is why I don't bother with therapy.

Only a pro choice one would be compatabile with me. Maybe if I found someone abroad whose country doesn't have the same prohibitions.

Hard agree on this. The way I see it, therapists are more like philosophers than anything else at this point. And the right to die is an essential part of my philosophy. If I can't talk about that freely, I don't think I would be able to make much progress.

On top of that, therapy helps those that help themselves. And I don't want help unless it involves a bullet in my brain. Something tells ne my therapist won't give me a gun. Not in this economy.