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Life is overrated

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You can even obtain it on Amazon. You have to add it to water and inject it. I heard it's very painful though. Will muscle relaxants make it a lot more tolerable?
I would attempt using SN but even with antiemetics I fear I'll throw up and it'll be ruined. Since I have extreme anxiety problems that cause me nausea already I'm pretty certain antiemetics wouldn't help entirely.
 
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cleveland2011

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It can kill you?

Lol I used to take it orally for health. I actually got stopped in an airport for a solid 15 minutes once as they tested it heavily.
 
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Life is overrated

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Feb 21, 2022
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It can kill you?

Lol I used to take it orally for health. I actually got stopped in an airport for a solid 15 minutes once as they tested it heavily.
Hm I didn't know it can be taken for health reasons also. Apparently it's used in lethal injections on prisoners. It's a lot less lethal in pill form.
 
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It takes much less to kill you injected than ingested, but it's extremely painful and I think it takes on average 6 to 10 minutes for your heart to stop. So if you have strong SI or death anxiety, it might be hard to resist calling for help.

Also you can still be revived if medics get to you in time with injections of insulin, sodium bicarbonate, and calcium chloride.
 
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cleveland2011

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Hm I didn't know it can be taken for health reasons also. Apparently it's used in lethal injections on prisoners. It's a lot less lethal in pill form.

lol why do you think it's available on Amazon?
 
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lol why do you think it's available on Amazon?
It is easily available on any site, it's used as a dietary salt replacement to lower blood pressure in those who consume too much sodium. It takes ridiculous amounts to kill you if ingested, and is really only dangerous if injected unless you're using it in every meal for weeks.
 
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"Potassium chloride is the drug that causes death in an execution under current lethal injection protocols. Although the other two drugs are administered in lethal dosages and would, in time, produce the prisoner's death, potassium chloride should cause cardiac arrest and death within a minute of injection.85​ While potassium chloride acts quickly, it is excruciatingly painful if administered without proper anesthesia.86​ When injected into a vein, it inflames the potassium ions in the sensory nerve fibers, literally burning up the veins as it travels to the heart.87​ Potassium chloride is so painful that the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) prohibits its use as the sole agent of euthanasia—it may only be used after the animal has been properly anesthetized.88​ "
 
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Sunset Limited

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No need KCL. Lidocaine is better. It is sold as a powder on Amazon. A quick injection of 3-4 grams will probably stop the heart. The injection is not painful because it is already a local anesthetic. But there is a problem. If it does not cause sudden cardiac arrest, it may cause convulsions. I think a quick 3-4 gram bolus will cause sudden cardiac arrest. IV digoxin is the best on this road.
 
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Yikes! 6-10 minutes is a long time to be in serious pain. Definitely not a method I'll be trying.
 
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Life is overrated

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Feb 21, 2022
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No need KCL. Lidocaine is better. It is sold as a powder on Amazon. A quick injection of 3-4 grams will probably stop the heart. The injection is not painful because it is already a local anesthetic. But there is a problem. If it does not cause sudden cardiac arrest, it may cause convulsions. I think a quick 3-4 gram bolus will cause sudden cardiac arrest. IV digoxin is the best on this road.
Would that cause nausea and vomiting that will ruin the ctb attempt?
 
Sunset Limited

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Would that cause nausea and vomiting that will ruin the ctb attempt?
Lidocaine only works by the IV route. So vomiting does not change the result.
 
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downndone2

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Potassium chloride in even small amounts burns like hell. Lidocaine could work in high doses as above
 
Cathy Ames

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No need KCL. Lidocaine is better. It is sold as a powder on Amazon. A quick injection of 3-4 grams will probably stop the heart. The injection is not painful because it is already a local anesthetic. But there is a problem. If it does not cause sudden cardiac arrest, it may cause convulsions. I think a quick 3-4 gram bolus will cause sudden cardiac arrest. IV digoxin is the best on this road.
When I've had it as a local (not IV), the injections hurt like HELL, and the numbing came after maybe a minute(?) or some amount of time I don't recall due to circumstances. It's interesting that it's painless IV.
 
Sunset Limited

Sunset Limited

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Only with an IV or injecting it without IV is fine?
Lidocaine is an agent used to treat ventricular tachycardia. In very high doses it stops the heart. For this, it is given by IV route. Actually for CTB, intracardiac also works, but I don't think anyone would want to put a needle in their heart.
 
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outrider567

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Hm I didn't know it can be taken for health reasons also. Apparently it's used in lethal injections on prisoners. It's a lot less lethal in pill form.
Yes Potassium Chloride(NOSALT)is used instead of salt--Its much healthier for you, been using it each day for decades,my blood pressure is perfect
It can kill you?

Lol I used to take it orally for health. I actually got stopped in an airport for a solid 15 minutes once as they tested it heavily.
Yes,its quite healthy for you--excellent salt substitute
 
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