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Which superpower is the least bad at the moment?

  • USA

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • China

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Russia

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Can't decide.

    Votes: 8 53.3%

  • Total voters
    15
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Today, I read a new piece of Slavoj Zizek.
Here is the last passage.

At this point, some leftists are tempted to claim that today's China comes closest to such a mechanism of collective decision-making which regulates and constrains the market, taking care of the long-term interests of our survival. I am ready to accept that China is at this moment the least bad of the three superpowers (China, the US, Russia), but I think that the non-transparency of its system contradicts the Confucian harmony advocated by China as its model of social relations. Just recall the latest mega-purges in the Chinese army (half of the entire supreme command was removed): did Xi not do this as a supreme Predator acting without any public consultation? Again, I am not claiming I oppose this purge: there are good reasons to presume that Xi targeted the generals who were pushing China toward war (an attack on Taiwan), and in general, Predators do things which are necessary. What we all need are such strong acts, but not accomplished in a predatory way — if this is the only way left to us, we are truly lost.

I think this is a very controverisal take. I read Zizek's substack because his takes are often censored in the mainstream press. Friends of mine also debated which superpower is currently the least horrible. Both agreed Russia is the worst. But they were not sure whether China or the US is actually worse. I think to claim China was the least bad choice isn't the most controversial thing he expresse. It seems to be more controversial to say he is not claiming to oppose the purge within the Chinese apparatus. He gives a dictator like Xi the benefit of the doubt. I think the text should be thought-provoking anyway and well it is.

I am not sure where I position myself. The US revives imperialism and gives China and Russia a good excuse to invade Taiwan and Ukraine. Though, thus far China did not act on it. China is supporting Russia in its war against Ukraine. It helps Russia to circumvent sanctions. However, I think the US foreign policies have the potential to lit the Middle East on fire. And destabilize a region with an extreme fallout risk for generations to come.

Considering domestic politics I think the US is still better than China. There is an opposition. There are free media outlets. I don't deny the media system is under severe pressure. But imagine the Daily Show, New York Times, Substack authors within China's system. That's unimaginable.

I am not fully sure. And I had no time to consider all the arguments. But the impact on the global order the US seems to be more aggressive and worse. Imagine what our media outlets would report if China threatened Greenland, Cuba, Denmark let alone invade/abduct foreign leaders. Considering domestic politics there still seems to be more freedom in the US compared to China.

What do you think?
 
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UserFromNowhere

UserFromNowhere

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May 4, 2025
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I think both have their pros and cons. For example, while you do trade off privacy and liberty in China, you also have access to a lot more social welfare and equality of outcome than America. In America, you have more privacy and liberty (although that's questionable) than China, but you don't have access to social welfare or equality of outcome. Both states have an impact on the grand scheme of the world, whereas the dominance of the liberal system or hypothetical dominance of the "communist" system influences the domestic politics of other nation states due to the bandwagon effect.

US neoliberal influence across the world undermined the more collectivist and harmonious nature of other countries, which even caused China to fall under the ideas of a more capitalistic system (even if there is still state regulation. I personally value privacy and liberty, but I do think China's social programs and regulations make a compelling argument against the global dominance of the neoliberal order, and given these two are the major superpowers (excluding Russia due to it's lack of economic might) rather than societies that more combine the two systems (Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, or Japan among other states come to mind) which would be preferable but is unlikely, it results in a conflict.

I don't think either of the two are less bad in terms of what their executive does without supervision, Trump's recent bureaucratic purges are quite similar to China's purge of military command, it's just that the USA has more power to act without restriction on the global stage at this point.
 
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EternalShore

EternalShore

Hardworking Lass who Dreams of Love~ 💕✨
Jun 9, 2023
1,812
Sure, the US is in its 2nd Gilded Age rn, but the current Chinese government is straight-up evil (altho, I know some users will disagree, they don't appear to be in this thread anyways~)~ Even discounting the genocide, persecution, and purges; consider that they're the main reason North Korea exists rn~
Meanwhile, Russia is a dictatorship~ ngl, the current methods with which Russia and the US are waging the wars they choose to wage are very odd to me tho... The US more than likely isn't going to liberate Iran by bombing it into smithereens, altho I sure wish they could~ I just hope they can install a better government because all those deaths would've been for nothing then~ :(
Meanwhile, Russia is murdering its entire youth population in order to gain more land and people before its population collapses while they simultaneously betray all their allies~

Misc.: One of the worst things tho is that China's surveillance system, which we were told was so awful about them in MS, has been adopted in a different form by the US and probably in another form by Russia too~ >_<
China is still very "harmonious" as they're presently in internal peace~ ngl, I was shocked and dismayed when I saw someone from China discussing Liu Bei and Cao Cao in YT comments~ They said that as a kid, they cheered for Liu Bei, but now, about how it doesn't matter who the "good guy" is (and presumably how much evil they did either) as long as they bring peace~ :/ that's just propaganda ig~ >_<
 
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