Physicists Have Annual Committee Meeting to Decide Which Law of Physics to Change

[fadedghost]

This post is actually about psychiatry changing the DSM. Do you know that their magic book of greek myths and arbitrary distinctions now has the word science added to it? That's right, the Diagnostic and Statistics Manual is becoming the Diagnostic and Science Manual.

It's sort of like a school changing it's name from "City College" to "Smart College for Smart People." If it were true, would it really needed to be changed and added in to prove it?

New this year: the DSM is adding something called Hera Syndrome for women who have online female hysteria and need Xanax. So trendy and scientific! Better open your wallets or you'll miss out on all the cool new labels and treatments!

 

[Dejected 55]

I'm not even anti-psychology or anti-psychiatry... but experts in the fields do tend to often think they know way more than they know. It wasn't that long ago when lobotomies were considered a proper thing to just do to people... and things are in the DSM until they aren't... things are recognized until they aren't OR aren't recognized until they are. Then they kind of want people to forget that five minutes ago they were saying something completely different than what they are saying now.

This happens in other areas, in science, where we are wrong about a thing for a while until we figure it out... but I think proper science at least tends to indicate that we were wrong about an assumption and then eventually proved it wrong and discarded it and admit as such. Psychology/Psychiatry tends to almost be closer to religion wherein they will continue to assert a thing long after it no longer makes sense to do so, then will change their assertion one day and try to act as if they were always promoting that believe and want to wipe away the past as if it was never real and try to convince you that you might be crazy if you don't just agree with them.

 

[THEREALSLIMSHADY]

I'm not even anti-psychology or anti-psychiatry... but experts in the fields do tend to often think they know way more than they know. It wasn't that long ago when lobotomies were considered a proper thing to just do to people... and things are in the DSM until they aren't... things are recognized until they aren't OR aren't recognized until they are. Then they kind of want people to forget that five minutes ago they were saying something completely different than what they are saying now.

This happens in other areas, in science, where we are wrong about a thing for a while until we figure it out... but I think proper science at least tends to indicate that we were wrong about an assumption and then eventually proved it wrong and discarded it and admit as such. Psychology/Psychiatry tends to almost be closer to religion wherein they will continue to assert a thing long after it no longer makes sense to do so, then will change their assertion one day and try to act as if they were always promoting that believe and want to wipe away the past as if it was never real and try to convince you that you might be crazy if you don't just agree with them.

They are usually pretentious as fuck

 

[Fadenself00]

I'm not even anti-psychology or anti-psychiatry... but experts in the fields do tend to often think they know way more than they know. It wasn't that long ago when lobotomies were considered a proper thing to just do to people... and things are in the DSM until they aren't... things are recognized until they aren't OR aren't recognized until they are. Then they kind of want people to forget that five minutes ago they were saying something completely different than what they are saying now.

This happens in other areas, in science, where we are wrong about a thing for a while until we figure it out... but I think proper science at least tends to indicate that we were wrong about an assumption and then eventually proved it wrong and discarded it and admit as such. Psychology/Psychiatry tends to almost be closer to religion wherein they will continue to assert a thing long after it no longer makes sense to do so, then will change their assertion one day and try to act as if they were always promoting that believe and want to wipe away the past as if it was never real and try to convince you that you might be crazy if you don't just agree with them.

as someone damaged by psychiatry, this sums many things up quite nicely..

its also the fact that psychiatry is not very self-aware about its current and major limitations, so drugging-spirals can occur because for them nothing but the DSM/ICD exists, and they will always confirmation-bias everything to make it fit.. this can lead to people becoming vegetables stuck in endless suffering, for life.

 

[Bitch With An Apple]

No offense to any practitioners, but diagnostic psychiatry is like the blind leading the sighted. Telling people what they are despite never having experienced those mental states themselves, prescribing drugs to others that they've personally never taken. I think on the whole it's horribly primitive, honestly. There are probably some practitioners who have real insight and I'm not ruling them out, but I've never met them personally. My take is that it's just a "social necessity". Weird people need to be categorized so that they can either be reintegrated or pacified or both (antipsychotics used to be known as "major tranquilizers") and so that there can be broadly applicable methodologies for doing so that don't require the insight that wouldn't be compatible with massive scale, one size fits all solutions. Personal consequences be damned, the wheels must keep turning.
Therapists and especially psychiatrists are modern day priests who monitor you on behalf of the state. Your needs are considered, but secondary to the overall social scheme.

 

[fadedghost]

In the future, they will likely have specific categories based on clusters of genetic mutations or epigenetic expressions or specific scientific descriptions of problems.

They still use bizarre insulting nomenclature, like Borderline Personality Disorder, for overly emotional people who feel too much and can't regulate emotions because of a dysfunctional limbic system. This idiotic dichotomy between some things being brain and some thing being not brain is beyond stupidity, as though emotional disregulation is just who "borderline" people are inherently. The term borderline initially came from thinking that emotionally unregulated people were at the border between neurotic and psychotic... and brain science and advances have shown that's a terrible way to describe things, but they still keep the label that way. Why do they do that? Is it because they are stupid... or is it because they are assholes?

But really, they aren't mutually exclusive. If they were really a science they wouldn't have to change shit around so much, constantly, and they wouldn't pretend to have so much certainty over their "science" when they clearly draw numerous arbitrary delineations which turn out to be wrong in the future frequently. It's like every decade of psychiatry and psychology had huge vast amounts of incorrect information, since it got changed the next decade, and had horrible interventions, like lobotomies and clitoral stimulation for female hysteria, but now... THIS is the generation of psychiatry that has gotten everything right... like using ECT TO KILL BRAIN CELLS TO HELP PEOPLE GET PAST "EGO." Fuck these pieces of shit, they are all charlatans who deserve to be drawn and quartered by slow horses on qualudes. A slow brazen bull death is too good for all these shitheads.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Trilly]

I cannot put into words how much I hate psychologists.

 

[fadedghost]

I cannot put into words how much I hate psychologists.

but how does that make you feel?