Venting People are passive aggressively telling the world they dont care for Hurricane Melissa victims.

[fallingbehind]

The destruction caused by Hurricane Melissa, schools and homes have been flattened. Innocent girls have been either kidnapped in the chaos or crushed under rubble but- "Lets send out our prayers for the random strays on the streets guys, lol I care more about animals than people!!!."

Im blackpilled to the point where I understand nobody cares about human suffering outside of their own personal, individual experience but for priviledged morons to get on the internet and hide their hatred behind care for animals... lmfao its seriously so fucking over.

 

[Hvergelmir]

Ambivalence should not be confused with hate. I haven't seen the "privileged morons" you refer to, but I doubt their care for animals is a pretense to hide any hateful agenda.

People tend to both get help and help themselves. Pets - sometimes very loyal pets, often lack that privilege.
It's not hateful or completely unreasonable, to conclude that animals deserves ones priority in a given situation.

 

[Downdraft]

Americans think voting is the be-all end-all of morality.

What's helping victims? They certainly don't care about each other, much less I expect them to do things for each other, even less outside their community.

Meanwhile in Spain, admittedly a just as bad country, there was a storm last year or so that took a huge toll in infrastructure and people were mobilizing themselves like crazy to help. Such moves are unthinkable in the U.S, where morals are more about holding abstract concepts than actually doing anything at all.

The rare instances of activism in the U.S. always has a media relevant reason. You never see it on events of equal seriousness if no one talks about it.

Ambivalence should not be confused with hate.

Ambivalence deserves criticism on itself. Just because it's less bad than something doesn't make it automatically good.

 

[Cosmophobic]

If they sent out those prayers to the people instead all their problems would be solved by now smh

I haven't seen the people doing this but I would register some annoyance at it too in that context. I don't really resent the "I care more about animals than people" sentiment though. Most people have been hurt by people and an individual has the right to express that by showing more love for animals regardless of you finding it "priviledged" or whatever.

 

[fallingbehind]

Ambivalence should not be confused with hate. I haven't seen the "privileged morons" you refer to, but I doubt their care for animals is a pretense to hide any hateful agenda.

People tend to both get help and help themselves. Pets - sometimes very loyal pets, often lack that privilege.
It's not hateful or completely unreasonable, to conclude that animals deserves ones priority in a given situation.

Jesus Christ. No animal life is more important than the lives of children. And when you see videos of little girls scared and crying you dont comment "what about the animals".

If they sent out those prayers to the people instead all their problems would be solved by now smh

I haven't seen the people doing this but I would register some annoyance at it too in that context. I don't really resent the "I care more about animals than people" sentiment though. Most people have been hurt by people and an individual has the right to express that by showing more love for animals regardless of you finding it "priviledged" or whatever.

Easy to say when your people arent suffering. I know your demographic well.

 

[Hvergelmir]

...when you see videos of little girls scared and crying you dont comment "what about the animals".

Agreed. I just have a hard time seeing that kind of behavior, widespread.

 

[Downdraft]

No animal life is more important than the lives of children.

Unfortunately, this forum hosts great amounts of idealism. It's not the best place to discuss philosophy tbh.

This said, the idea that any animal is worth more than any human is deeply rooted in vegan rhetoric, which I diametrically oppose. If a being is capable of morality, it can have positive one as well, therefore the "human bad" rhetoric is a mindless generalization.

 

[Cosmophobic]

Easy to say when your people arent suffering. And I am anti-religion. I know your demographic well.

You're an insatiable moralizer. What am I to say about the hurricane victims that will actually help them? What are you to say? I can't keep track of a fraction of a fraction of the suffering that goes on under the sun every day.

 

[fallingbehind]

You're an insatiable moralizer. What am I to say about the hurricane victims that will actually help them? What are you to say? I can't keep track of a fraction of a fraction of the suffering that goes on under the sun every day.

Im not asking you or anybody else to do that. Im asking people to have a bit of respect and not comment "I feel worse for the animals" under videos of innocent Caribbean children begging for help.

My vent is about how people will always be self-centred, and callously show little to no care for anyone but their own (if that). Including me, and including you.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

I actually have seen the comments you're talking about, but I think what people are missing here is that a lot of those comments are on videos of children that are clearly not white—I see way more sympathy on videos of white kids (at least that was my experience seeing reactions to similar floods in the USA versus some videos I saw recently)

I also see this is real life, with the white "dog moms" in my area (conservative state) bring suspiciously racist. It isn't that they care about animals more than humans, they just see some humans as lesser than animals. You may be misdirecting your rage.

 

[fallingbehind]

I actually have seen the comments you're talking about, but I think what people are missing here is that a lot of those comments are on videos of children that are clearly not white—I see way more sympathy on videos of white kids (at least that was my experience seeing reactions to similar floods in the USA versus some videos I saw recently)

I also see this is real life, with the white "dog moms" in my area (conservative state) bring suspiciously racist. It isn't that they care about animals more than humans, they just see some humans as lesser than animals. You may be misdirecting your rage.

No, I know this. Its just that a specific demographic cant even be reasoned with or talked to so I wasnt going to address them at all in my post, mods would probably shut me down for infighting.

 

[Cosmophobic]

Im not asking you or anybody else to do that. Im asking people to have a bit of respect and not comment "I feel worse for the animals" under videos of innocent Caribbean children begging for help.

My vent is about how people will always be self-centred, and callously show little to no care for anyone but their own (if that). Including me, and including you.

Including yourself is a very important part of that and makes the whole thing consistent. Now I'm in complete agreement. Sorry for calling you an insatiable moralizer

 

[Downdraft]

It isn't that they care about animals more than humans, they just see some humans as lesser than animals.

You said a literal oxymoron? Your second statement completely contradicts the first one?

If some people are less to them, OP's point does apply to those people. The mental gymnastics people go to defend bad positions, even at the expense of lexical integrity, is beyond hopeless.