Opinions on Datura poisoning?

[borntodie777]

Did a quick search but didn't find much info on datura poisoning. There's a datura plant growing near my house that I may be able to use for my ctb. Datura seeds contain scopalamine and atropine and it causes respiratory arrest if taken in large enough doses.

Does anyone here have any experience with datura flowers/leaves/seeds. If yes, was it painless? did the individual you knew died? how long did it take and what parts of the plant did they consume and how much?

the datura plant near my house has purple flowers and seems rather healthy (which i assume means the plant will have potent seeds)

any information on this would be really great

thank you

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Read up on it here. It doesn't sound reliable.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5555431/

 

[borntodie777]

Read up on it here. It doesn't sound reliable.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5555431/

damn

 

[Stillnotsure]

Read up on it here. It doesn't sound reliable.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5555431/

I read the case study. Atropine is a drug we use to speed up the heart rate when it is too slow. So a bid side effect is a super fast heart rate. Hyoscaimine is a drug used to relax smooth muscle, so the intestines and bladder among other things. That's why he retained his urine. The last one causes a chemical shift in the cells of muscles that leads to the body cramping and overheating. It sends damaged cells into the blood stream that in a way clog up the kidneys and damage them. In most cases the damage isn't permanent as long as you get the right treatment in the hospital.

I'd say this method is too unreliable. It's rarely fatal and usually uncomfortable. Looks like it may just cause you to hallucinate if your lucky but there is no way of knowing how potent the toxin is at any given time in your plant.

My best advice is to avoid plant poisons and prescription pills (most are derived from plants) to ctb because achieving a fatal dose and not throwing it up are so very hard to achieve. Plus poisoning generally takes hours or longer to work.

 

[Dead_Inside]

Don't use that plant. The animals eat it occasionally and it makes them crazy.... You wouldn't want to die like that.

 

[borntodie777]

I read the case study. Atropine is a drug we use to speed up the heart rate when it is too slow. So a bid side effect is a super fast heart rate. Hyoscaimine is a drug used to relax smooth muscle, so the intestines and bladder among other things. That's why he retained his urine. The last one causes a chemical shift in the cells of muscles that leads to the body cramping and overheating. It sends damaged cells into the blood stream that in a way clog up the kidneys and damage them. In most cases the damage isn't permanent as long as you get the right treatment in the hospital.

I'd say this method is too unreliable. It's rarely fatal and usually uncomfortable. Looks like it may just cause you to hallucinate if your lucky but there is no way of knowing how potent the toxin is at any given time in your plant.

My best advice is to avoid plant poisons and prescription pills (most are derived from plants) to ctb because achieving a fatal dose and not throwing it up are so very hard to achieve. Plus poisoning generally takes hours or longer to work.

Know of any otc drugs in US that might help me die? I can't get my hands on prescription drugs