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[Vivian]

I mentioned I read philosophy on suicide and now my psych professor thinks I'm depressed and suicidal. I am neither of those things

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Just curious if you aren´t suicidal or even depressed why are you on this forum?

 

[Kikoo Loool]

I mentioned I read philosophy on suicide and now my psych professor thinks I'm depressed and suicidal. I am neither of those things

What are you seeking on this site?

 

[Mofreeko]

I mentioned I read philosophy on suicide and now my psych professor thinks I'm depressed and suicidal. I am neither of those things

Why are you here then?

 

[Vivian]

I do want to commit suicide but I wouldn't call myself suicidal. I am not depressed, that's not why I want to commit suicide. I am doing it for rational reasons.

 

[Cubashii]

So what do you feel right now? Like why did you join?

 

[Soul]

I'm with Vivian. I'm not depressed but I know I'm going to commit suicide and I came here to learn about effective ways to do that and discuss things with people who believe we all - including Vivian - have a right to make up our own minds about our own deaths.

 

[Vivian]

I joined bc I was looking for methods.

Schizophrenia might possibly get worse if I get older and I don't want medications shoved in my body for the rest of my life. It's a pretty rational reason to die.

 

[Kikoo Loool]

I do want to commit suicide but I wouldn't call myself suicidal. I am not depressed, that's not why I want to commit suicide. I am doing it for rational reasons.

I don't see why someone who has rational reasons to end themselves shouldn't be called "suicidal".

 

[Cubashii]

I joined bc I was looking for methods.

Schizophrenia might possibly get worse if I get older and I don't want medications shoved in my body for the rest of my life.vIt's a pretty rational reason to die.

I have schizophrenia and mine has got worse over the past 6 years =[

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I do want to commit suicide but I wouldn't call myself suicidal. I am not depressed, that's not why I want to commit suicide. I am doing it for rational reasons.

Uhm then you ARE suicidal, I am killing myself next week too because of rational reasons because I suffer from physical illnesses and I am not depressed either but we are still suicidal.

 

[Vivian]

The definition of suicidal is "deeply unhappy or depressed and likely to commit suicide"

I refuse to be called suicidal

 

[Omega7]

I don't see why someone who has rational reasons to end themselves shouldn't be called "suicidal".

Gold

 

[Walilamdzi]

The definition of suicidal is "deeply unhappy or depressed and likely to commit suicide"

I refuse to be called suicidal

That's the first definition that comes up when you google it, but there are lots of definitions. One dictionary defines it as:

Suicidal - people who are suicidal want to kill themselves or are in a mental state in which it is likely that they will try to do so.

 

[Jolene40]

So many people who are suicidal are not depressed. Its slightly off topic but someone could be half dead with cancer and declare a desire to end it and they'd probably still refer to them as depressed!
I too am NOT depressed. Although i do understand depression very well

 

[Vivian]

Exactly! @Jolene40

 

[dyingtodie]

What's scariest for me is that I am suicidal, and I am not depressed (at least not in the way that I have been before.) I actually enjoy a lot about life. I feel more self love than self hate. When I got through my last crippling depression, and was out and enjoying life to my fullest and still wanted to ctb I knew it was for real. Now I'm reluctant to go. Cause I like to hear the birds and insects sing, and I like my cat. But... I feel like there is no denying the inevitable for much longer.

 

[TheFinalCountdown]

Well of course if you tell a psychology professor that you're thinking about suicide he's going to think you're depressed. He sees these things through a mental health lens, not a rational philosophical one.

 

[Vivian]

Yeah, that was really stupid for me to do, in hindsight. I just wanted to chat with someone and have some understanding about my point of view. I had to lie and say that I wasn't thinking about committing suicide. She said I didn't show any signs of being suicidal at all. Thank god I got out of that. @TheFinalCountdown

 

[GeorgeJL]

I mentioned I read philosophy on suicide and now my psych professor thinks I'm depressed and suicidal. I am neither of those things

Who cares if your professor thinks you depressed as long as they grade you appropriately.

 

[Vivian]

I care bc she might get me sent to a psych ward involuntarily if she took it seriously. @GeorgeJL

 

[GeorgeJL]

I care bc she might get me sent to a psych ward involuntarily if she took it seriously. @GeorgeJL

They can't put you in a psych ward unless you have imminent plans to end your life.

 

[TiredHorse]

Be very careful, @Vivian. When I was in high school I had the school shrink ask me, "have you ever thought about suicide?", to which I replied that I had, meaning I had contemplated the concept philosophically.

Next thing I know I'm being considered for involuntary commitment, the shrink saying she's sure I'm suicidal. The school admin paused, thank fortune, and got a second opinion, who said I wasn't even remotely suicidal, and everyone calmed down.

I learned a lot more about that shrink after I returned to work for my high school several years later. Turns out she had a notorious ego problem, and liked stirring up trouble out of nothing to make her look like she was relevant. The school was just starting to figure this out when she complicated my life, hence the second opinion. I've since learned that a lot of school shrinks and psych professors have that same issue: they like to dabble in professional assessment, at the expense of the students.

So be careful. Say the wrong thing to the wrong person, who has an axe to grind, and you could find yourself in real hot water.

 

[WolfgangA]

Perhaps try passively passing the notion through casual conversion/question/query thats not unusual (so it doesn't seem like you're trying to clarify/rectify your previous statement) in terms the relationship between you and your professor.
It doesn't have to be a conversation with the professor, if what you suggest is remotely true. There is a chance that the professor might keep an eye on you and that can be used to your advantage if display of notions that might persuade the professor to think otherwise.)

Example of such notion could be ...

Display of love/affection/care/friendship or in other words joys that represent "life" among the masses.
Wishful thinking of the future.
A target/goal for distant future.

I think you get the idea. However, if you decide to try this, make sure you're relaxed or at the very least your normal self, stress might just make it worse. I know this doesn't help but possibly complicates things but I wouldn't want bad fortune to befall on anyone and being being locked up, so better to be prepared.

Finally, before you take any action, please try and consider the possibility that it could just be nothing to worry about. Without more information, its hard to tell. And even with more information it might not be so easy to predict what really happened. Try to relax and think it through, Do you really have to worry about this? FYI though, i'm not trying to suggest that you're not thinking straight or anything, its just that sometimes we get stressed unconsciously and don't seem to realize that we're not thinking straight. Perhaps you're, perhaps you're not but its probably not a bad thing to think it through one more time.

For instance, when you mentioned suicide, what was the topic of the conversation? What was the previous topic and after? What exactly brought it up? What happened right after you mentioned the notion? Was there any preconceived notion that can justify the mention of ctb? Even a far fetched one? Did it get awkward (for all percipients)? Anyone else participated (including silent participation) in the conversation? Your professors personality, characteristics .... and yes this may all seem a tad bit too much, better safe than sorry, being confined just isn't me. Personally I would I would try and analyze the situation based on whatever information I've and take it from there.

I think you get the point, try thinking if this event actually requires action or perhaps you can just leave it be and it will be alright (hopefully).
Wish you all the best.

 

[Vivian]

Thank you! @WolfgangA

 

[Vivian]

@TiredHorse That's horrible. Glad you got out of it. I will remember to be more careful next time.