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- May 17, 2024
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I'm making this post for all of those who are curious about the Nitrogen method.
Introduction:
I'm from Canada, and personally I spent about $900 dollars on this method, including a refill and not including the $300 dollars the welding shop kept as a security deposit.
The reason I spent so much money is because I had to pay for transportation to and from the gas shop as well, and I went there multiple times.
I also had to buy a couple of wrenches which almost costed me a hundred dollars. I needed a chair as well and that costed me $79 dollars.
Depending on where you're from and what you do, it may not cost you $900 like it did for me.
I bought a cheap regulator on amazon and it wouldn't stop leaking, so instead I purchased an expensive regulator and it does not disappoint. Though, it has to be tightened well with a wrench. My regulator was the Miller Flow Gauge Argon regulator, 50 SCFH. Since it is an argon regulator, I personally did my research and found it should be set at 17 lpm. I found this information in the gas megathread. (https://www.sanctioned-suicide.net/...ert-gas-megathread.8393/page-176#post-2711877) Msvr did a test and I found it reliable. The bag inflates well, in about a minute, and when I tested it on a dummy's head it inflated well in about a minute as well.
I got the exit bag off of amazon, and I highly recommend Home Select Oven Bags (19 IN by 23 1/2 IN) as I ripped micropore tapped off of one of the bags and it didn't tear; for those of you worried the bags are so thin that they tear.
For the chair, I got a sturdy porch chair that reclines. You want to make sure your chair can recline.
For the restraints I used some of the elastic for the bag and tied it around the arm of the chair tightly, so that I could squeeze my wrists under. I also go a wheelchair belt to secure myself to the chair.
Important: CO2 is a problem. A big problem. It is recommended that you should stick with oxygen tubing. I suggest you don't deviate from that, because these people know best. However, I ended up getting PVC tubing with a 10mm(3/8") outer diameter. So it's bigger than oxygen tubing. I did this because I wanted a gap for the CO2 to go out of. People will say if you keep the bag loose CO2 shouldn't be a problem. However when experimenting with the bag I found that a snug fit meant it was cinched slightly around the neck, and the two finger rule can be confusing. Sometimes two fingers can fit but the bag is slightly tight around your fingers, should it not be? Okay if I loosen it and then test it on my dummy head, the bag doesn't fill up properly. So it needs to be cinched so that it's snug not tight. That to me means that you can fit two fingers underneath and run them along the hem of the bag without it feeling tight and restrictive but snug and firm, or "just right". Testing it should help you get a feel for it. Anyhow, the tubing leaves a gap and nitrogen escapes from that gap but on 17lpm the bag still inflated fully on the forehead and neck. I figured this small gap created by a 10mm tube will help enough CO2 escape along with whatever escapes from the hem of the bag. I say this because it does not seem to be enough just to have the bag snugly fit around the neck. This is just my preference, and how I thought about it, not a guide whatsoever. Another thing, since I got bigger tubing it weighed the bag down on one side, so to counter that I took a piece of the way too heavy tubing I got by mistake, and taped it on the other side of the bag.
The experience:
At first when getting the tank from the welding shop, I felt the sunshine on my face more intensely as I knew I was making the first step towards my death certain. I was very nervous, and I bet you will be too. I got to the shop and had no idea what I was doing. I brought a trolly I had bought off of Walmart to carry the cylinder in. Yet, when I looked, the cylinder I wanted was far too large to fit into the trolly. I also had to think about how to transport gas cylinders in stranger's cars (I was using Lyft which is like Uber). (For this: just leave a note for the driver, saying the tank is not oxygen and that it needs to be transported upright in the backseat. You can either sit with the tank between your legs in the backseat, and the uber driver will lift the passenger seat forward so there's space. Or buckle in the tank with a seatbelt and sit next to it.) So I was under pressure, no pun intended. I also had to time when I was going to get the tank as to be seen with it in my home by staff (I live in an adult group home) would be a different death wish.
So here I am at the shop, clueless as to what to do since the cylinder I thought I needed was too big to fit into my trolly. The store associate was pressuring me, asking me where I am putting it and what I am going to use it for. I said laser cutting, which was a huge mistake because the cylinders need to be huge for laser cutting. I got that excuse off of someone on this site :/ Please be careful following advice on this site, it's not always reliable. I ended up having to cover up my mistake by saying I mixed up what I thought my boyfriend was doing with the cylinders. If you're a girl, I recommend saying you're getting it for your boyfriend. Even then I was lucky they weren't suspicious. I had to go all the way back home and come back again after I had done my research and went with a 55 scf tank that fit in the trolly I got. Luckily not once, did any of the staff in my home see what I was up to.
The entire process had me very anxious but relieved once I got the tank. I ended up testing with the tank aimlessly for the course of a year, ran out of gas and had to do the entire process of going there again. When I got back (again undetected...heheh stealth mode) I tried opening the tank but I couldn't. The valve was stuck and there was so much conflicting information on not using a wrench on the valve. So I was doomed and thought I'd have to do the entire process again. Sneaking out, is not easy. Yet I kept trying with my hand and a towel and voila! It opened and worked.
When I got my first regulator I was nervous. I had no idea how to use a regulator but stupidly attached it to the tank and used it anyway. Please watch a video and see how they use it, don't be like me. Also, when you turn off the gas you have to adjust the regulator to let out the excess gas. I got the hang of it, but my regulator was leaking so badly, no matter how much I tightened it. I honestly thought it was the end for me, I live off of disability, how would I get another regulator? I was determined. I returned that regulator and got the miller one. This time, tightening it was the only issue in terms of leaks.
Constructing the exit bag was hell. Threading the elastic through the plastic bag was the difficult part. I recommend using a method to do this as I just kept pushing the elastic along. I used tweezers at the end to pull the elastic through. Make sure your elastic will fit your toggle. I tied a knot with the elastic to make sure the elastic was in line. I don't have any doubts regarding the exit bag, it crinkles a lot but it's sturdy and doesn't tear.
I've been practicing the tightness on the bag for a while now. I'll put the bag over my head and tighten the toggle exactly the same way each time (I count with Mississippi's) Then I'll pull it up to my forehead, start hyperventilating and on the last breath I breathe out completely and hold it - pull the bag down adjust the toggle a bit, and then breathe in deeply.
Conclusion:
I honestly think all the trouble was worth it. I have successfully built a working exit bag. It has been my dream to die this way. I don't know if my experience will help any of you guys, but I hope it does. I haven't left a suicide note irl, or a goodbye thread because I don't think it's worth it but I leave you guys with this. Tonight I will be having my last meal, and trying out my setup with hopes of death and relief from this world.
Introduction:
I'm from Canada, and personally I spent about $900 dollars on this method, including a refill and not including the $300 dollars the welding shop kept as a security deposit.
The reason I spent so much money is because I had to pay for transportation to and from the gas shop as well, and I went there multiple times.
I also had to buy a couple of wrenches which almost costed me a hundred dollars. I needed a chair as well and that costed me $79 dollars.
Depending on where you're from and what you do, it may not cost you $900 like it did for me.
I bought a cheap regulator on amazon and it wouldn't stop leaking, so instead I purchased an expensive regulator and it does not disappoint. Though, it has to be tightened well with a wrench. My regulator was the Miller Flow Gauge Argon regulator, 50 SCFH. Since it is an argon regulator, I personally did my research and found it should be set at 17 lpm. I found this information in the gas megathread. (https://www.sanctioned-suicide.net/...ert-gas-megathread.8393/page-176#post-2711877) Msvr did a test and I found it reliable. The bag inflates well, in about a minute, and when I tested it on a dummy's head it inflated well in about a minute as well.
I got the exit bag off of amazon, and I highly recommend Home Select Oven Bags (19 IN by 23 1/2 IN) as I ripped micropore tapped off of one of the bags and it didn't tear; for those of you worried the bags are so thin that they tear.
For the chair, I got a sturdy porch chair that reclines. You want to make sure your chair can recline.
For the restraints I used some of the elastic for the bag and tied it around the arm of the chair tightly, so that I could squeeze my wrists under. I also go a wheelchair belt to secure myself to the chair.
Important: CO2 is a problem. A big problem. It is recommended that you should stick with oxygen tubing. I suggest you don't deviate from that, because these people know best. However, I ended up getting PVC tubing with a 10mm(3/8") outer diameter. So it's bigger than oxygen tubing. I did this because I wanted a gap for the CO2 to go out of. People will say if you keep the bag loose CO2 shouldn't be a problem. However when experimenting with the bag I found that a snug fit meant it was cinched slightly around the neck, and the two finger rule can be confusing. Sometimes two fingers can fit but the bag is slightly tight around your fingers, should it not be? Okay if I loosen it and then test it on my dummy head, the bag doesn't fill up properly. So it needs to be cinched so that it's snug not tight. That to me means that you can fit two fingers underneath and run them along the hem of the bag without it feeling tight and restrictive but snug and firm, or "just right". Testing it should help you get a feel for it. Anyhow, the tubing leaves a gap and nitrogen escapes from that gap but on 17lpm the bag still inflated fully on the forehead and neck. I figured this small gap created by a 10mm tube will help enough CO2 escape along with whatever escapes from the hem of the bag. I say this because it does not seem to be enough just to have the bag snugly fit around the neck. This is just my preference, and how I thought about it, not a guide whatsoever. Another thing, since I got bigger tubing it weighed the bag down on one side, so to counter that I took a piece of the way too heavy tubing I got by mistake, and taped it on the other side of the bag.
The experience:
At first when getting the tank from the welding shop, I felt the sunshine on my face more intensely as I knew I was making the first step towards my death certain. I was very nervous, and I bet you will be too. I got to the shop and had no idea what I was doing. I brought a trolly I had bought off of Walmart to carry the cylinder in. Yet, when I looked, the cylinder I wanted was far too large to fit into the trolly. I also had to think about how to transport gas cylinders in stranger's cars (I was using Lyft which is like Uber). (For this: just leave a note for the driver, saying the tank is not oxygen and that it needs to be transported upright in the backseat. You can either sit with the tank between your legs in the backseat, and the uber driver will lift the passenger seat forward so there's space. Or buckle in the tank with a seatbelt and sit next to it.) So I was under pressure, no pun intended. I also had to time when I was going to get the tank as to be seen with it in my home by staff (I live in an adult group home) would be a different death wish.
So here I am at the shop, clueless as to what to do since the cylinder I thought I needed was too big to fit into my trolly. The store associate was pressuring me, asking me where I am putting it and what I am going to use it for. I said laser cutting, which was a huge mistake because the cylinders need to be huge for laser cutting. I got that excuse off of someone on this site :/ Please be careful following advice on this site, it's not always reliable. I ended up having to cover up my mistake by saying I mixed up what I thought my boyfriend was doing with the cylinders. If you're a girl, I recommend saying you're getting it for your boyfriend. Even then I was lucky they weren't suspicious. I had to go all the way back home and come back again after I had done my research and went with a 55 scf tank that fit in the trolly I got. Luckily not once, did any of the staff in my home see what I was up to.
The entire process had me very anxious but relieved once I got the tank. I ended up testing with the tank aimlessly for the course of a year, ran out of gas and had to do the entire process of going there again. When I got back (again undetected...heheh stealth mode) I tried opening the tank but I couldn't. The valve was stuck and there was so much conflicting information on not using a wrench on the valve. So I was doomed and thought I'd have to do the entire process again. Sneaking out, is not easy. Yet I kept trying with my hand and a towel and voila! It opened and worked.
When I got my first regulator I was nervous. I had no idea how to use a regulator but stupidly attached it to the tank and used it anyway. Please watch a video and see how they use it, don't be like me. Also, when you turn off the gas you have to adjust the regulator to let out the excess gas. I got the hang of it, but my regulator was leaking so badly, no matter how much I tightened it. I honestly thought it was the end for me, I live off of disability, how would I get another regulator? I was determined. I returned that regulator and got the miller one. This time, tightening it was the only issue in terms of leaks.
Constructing the exit bag was hell. Threading the elastic through the plastic bag was the difficult part. I recommend using a method to do this as I just kept pushing the elastic along. I used tweezers at the end to pull the elastic through. Make sure your elastic will fit your toggle. I tied a knot with the elastic to make sure the elastic was in line. I don't have any doubts regarding the exit bag, it crinkles a lot but it's sturdy and doesn't tear.
I've been practicing the tightness on the bag for a while now. I'll put the bag over my head and tighten the toggle exactly the same way each time (I count with Mississippi's) Then I'll pull it up to my forehead, start hyperventilating and on the last breath I breathe out completely and hold it - pull the bag down adjust the toggle a bit, and then breathe in deeply.
Conclusion:
I honestly think all the trouble was worth it. I have successfully built a working exit bag. It has been my dream to die this way. I don't know if my experience will help any of you guys, but I hope it does. I haven't left a suicide note irl, or a goodbye thread because I don't think it's worth it but I leave you guys with this. Tonight I will be having my last meal, and trying out my setup with hopes of death and relief from this world.
i wish you the peace you truly deserve. i hope you know how much ive appreciated being seen by you.
