My conversation with Pegasos

[supermario]

I've been messaging Pegasos on whether there is a path to assisted suicide for someone like myself with OCD. Their latest response seems to be that it's possible, but that it requires more paperwork.

I know from research that people with mental illness rarely if ever get accepted to these organizations. Are they just leading me on for the deposit money (which is non refundable)?

 

[sadnurse]

I wouldn't put it past them

 

[Toonloon]

That's really messed up if that's the case. But usually the wise thing to do is go off on the track record of things. If the ratio is very low for A.S with mental illness they may deny you and in a slap to face take your money. Along with flag you for "help".

 

[supermario]

Damn on one hand I know it's too good to be true, but on the other I can't help but want to believe there is a chance Pegasos will actually consider people with mental illness. I guess when you're desperate you start to think and act irrationally.

 

[Toonloon]

Damn on one hand I know it's too good to be true, but on the other I can't help but want to believe there is a chance Pegasos will actually consider people with mental illness. I guess when you're desperate you start to think and act irrationally.

YES. That's exactly when con artists or jerks take advantage. I'm not saying con is what's goin on. My understanding in terms of some shrinks is they are more open to A.S if there is evidence of medical decline in their charge. I used 2b friends with a real piece of shit shrink but he told me he thought some people should be open to ending their lives if they have severe mental illness. He told me the loophole would be the basis of medical decline due to side effects of medications. He told me he was a psychiatrist but was less likely to use pills anymore. He was leaning towards talk therapy.

He said a few patients he saw over the years were all destroyed internally w/ the meds he was giving them. He said he saw one guy healthy mid 30's and 5 years later had liver failure due to his anti depressants and anti psychotics. He said the guy used to be able to live a decent healthy life. But than overnight was really sick. Turns out the meds he got were messing him up because he couldn't process it like most people. But nobody listened to him at all because they thought he was just making up excuses to not take his meds. He said the guy actually was placed in assisted living in his 40's because of how bad the meds made him. But everyone was being told he caused it himself from suicide attempts. He told me that was a lie. He said if the guy asked him to sign a paper to go to Oregon and get AS kit he would have done it for him cause he felt bad for the guy. He told me a few shrinks think the way he does too but many won't say anything cause they're afraid to lose their license

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

YES. That's exactly when con artists or jerks take advantage. I'm not saying con is what's goin on. My understanding in terms of some shrinks is they are more open to A.S if there is evidence of medical decline in their charge. I used 2b friends with a real piece of shit shrink but he told me he thought some people should be open to ending their lives if they have severe mental illness. He told me the loophole would be the basis of medical decline due to side effects of medications. He told me he was a psychiatrist but was less likely to use pills anymore. He was leaning towards talk therapy.

He said a few patients he saw over the years were all destroyed internally w/ the meds he was giving them. He said he saw one guy healthy mid 30's and 5 years later had liver failure due to his anti depressants and anti psychotics. He said the guy used to be able to live a decent healthy life. But than overnight was really sick. Turns out the meds he got were messing him up because he couldn't process it like most people. But nobody listened to him at all because they thought he was just making up excuses to not take his meds. He said the guy actually was placed in assisted living in his 40's because of how bad the meds made him. But everyone was being told he caused it himself from suicide attempts. He told me that was a lie. He said if the guy asked him to sign a paper to go to Oregon and get AS kit he would have done it for him cause he felt bad for the guy. He told me a few shrinks think the way he does too but many won't say anything cause they're afraid to lose their license

Jeez this is so sad We "help" people then ruin their lives medically and blame it back on them? I can't help but wonder incredulously how I can end up born into such a terrible world sometimes...

 

[supermario]

YES. That's exactly when con artists or jerks take advantage. I'm not saying con is what's goin on. My understanding in terms of some shrinks is they are more open to A.S if there is evidence of medical decline in their charge. I used 2b friends with a real piece of shit shrink but he told me he thought some people should be open to ending their lives if they have severe mental illness. He told me the loophole would be the basis of medical decline due to side effects of medications. He told me he was a psychiatrist but was less likely to use pills anymore. He was leaning towards talk therapy.

He said a few patients he saw over the years were all destroyed internally w/ the meds he was giving them. He said he saw one guy healthy mid 30's and 5 years later had liver failure due to his anti depressants and anti psychotics. He said the guy used to be able to live a decent healthy life. But than overnight was really sick. Turns out the meds he got were messing him up because he couldn't process it like most people. But nobody listened to him at all because they thought he was just making up excuses to not take his meds. He said the guy actually was placed in assisted living in his 40's because of how bad the meds made him. But everyone was being told he caused it himself from suicide attempts. He told me that was a lie. He said if the guy asked him to sign a paper to go to Oregon and get AS kit he would have done it for him cause he felt bad for the guy. He told me a few shrinks think the way he does too but many won't say anything cause they're afraid to lose their license

I can attest to how casually and easily psychiatrists dole out drugs for people with mental illness. Multiple times I had to say "wait a minute, doesn't this drug have this serious side effect?". Many of these doctors have this empty stare in their eyes that tell you they give zero rats ass about your wellbeing. I feel safer googling for 2 minutes than trusting these so called professionals when it comes to what drugs may be helpful and what drugs may fuck me over big time.

 

[Niko66]

I can attest to how casually and easily psychiatrists dole out drugs for people with mental illness. Multiple times I had to say "wait a minute, doesn't this drug have this serious side effect?". Many of these doctors have this empty stare in their eyes that tell you they give zero rats ass about your wellbeing. I feel safer googling for 2 minutes than trusting these so called professionals when it comes to what drugs may be helpful and what drugs may fuck me over big time.

This has been my experience exactly with psychiatrists, I don't trust a single one.

Handing drugs like candy, didn't talk to me about side effects, didn't talk to me about dependency or addiction risks, just "this should take care of all your symptoms" (another ridiculous and lazy claim). My little brother, who's a minor was also hooked on prozac and they (don't live with em) were told nothing about it being dangerous to stop cold turkey, that it's hardly addictive and so whenever they want to get my bro off one of his meds they see him throw fits and become unstable they don't realize it isn't just the med stopping it's effect but rather him suffering withdrawals.

Another one prescribed me Xanax for sleep in replacement of weed, can you believe this shit? Let's give you a highly addictive substance, that will rapidly increase in tolerance thus needing to up dose constantly as a crutch for sleep to replace a comparatively harmless smoking weed habit.
Another one just completely shrugged me off after a few weeks in their prescription I told em it was making me feel horrible and more suicidal than ever and wasn't seeing any benefits, got told to suck it up and keep taking the meds. I could go on, I have so many shitty experiences with the doctors in my country psychiatrists or otherwise, my physical health has been treated the same way. I swear it's a profession filled with egomaniacs

 

[assbeast]

If you are in Europe (Pegasos is Swiss?) you should check out Belgium!

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

This has been my experience exactly with psychiatrists, I don't trust a single one.

Handing drugs like candy, didn't talk to me about side effects, didn't talk to me about dependency or addiction risks, just "this should take care of all your symptoms" (another ridiculous and lazy claim). My little brother, who's a minor was also hooked on prozac and they (don't live with em) were told nothing about it being dangerous to stop cold turkey, that it's hardly addictive and so whenever they want to get my bro off one of his meds they see him throw fits and become unstable they don't realize it isn't just the med stopping it's effect but rather him suffering withdrawals.

Another one prescribed me Xanax for sleep in replacement of weed, can you believe this shit? Let's give you a highly addictive substance, that will rapidly increase in tolerance thus needing to up dose constantly as a crutch for sleep to replace a comparatively harmless smoking weed habit.
Another one just completely shrugged me off after a few weeks in their prescription I told em it was making me feel horrible and more suicidal than ever and wasn't seeing any benefits, got told to suck it up and keep taking the meds. I could go on, I have so many shitty experiences with the doctors in my country psychiatrists or otherwise, my physical health has been treated the same way. I swear it's a profession filled with egomaniacs

I'm pretty sure that antidepressants have made me brain dead. Something has. Zero motivation. No attempt by therapist to ever understand what caused the depression in the first place.

 

[Wrennie]

YES. That's exactly when con artists or jerks take advantage. I'm not saying con is what's goin on. My understanding in terms of some shrinks is they are more open to A.S if there is evidence of medical decline in their charge. I used 2b friends with a real piece of shit shrink but he told me he thought some people should be open to ending their lives if they have severe mental illness. He told me the loophole would be the basis of medical decline due to side effects of medications. He told me he was a psychiatrist but was less likely to use pills anymore. He was leaning towards talk therapy.

He said a few patients he saw over the years were all destroyed internally w/ the meds he was giving them. He said he saw one guy healthy mid 30's and 5 years later had liver failure due to his anti depressants and anti psychotics. He said the guy used to be able to live a decent healthy life. But than overnight was really sick. Turns out the meds he got were messing him up because he couldn't process it like most people. But nobody listened to him at all because they thought he was just making up excuses to not take his meds. He said the guy actually was placed in assisted living in his 40's because of how bad the meds made him. But everyone was being told he caused it himself from suicide attempts. He told me that was a lie. He said if the guy asked him to sign a paper to go to Oregon and get AS kit he would have done it for him cause he felt bad for the guy. He told me a few shrinks think the way he does too but many won't say anything cause they're afraid to lose their license

Literally sounds similar to my predicament. Meds chemically castrated me, made my hair fall out, dried out my skin, lowered my bone density, and ultimately caused me to jump out of a window.

 

[Pau MP]

I've been messaging Pegasos on whether there is a path to assisted suicide for someone like myself with OCD. Their latest response seems to be that it's possible, but that it requires more paperwork.

I know from research that people with mental illness rarely if ever get accepted to these organizations. Are they just leading me on for the deposit money (which is non refundable)?

I can guarantee you that they are not for the money. In case your VAD application doesn´t get through, you get your deposit back (at least 3,500e, the whole deposit is 5,000e). It all depends on each particular application, costs involved, etc. No way they retain the 5,000 euros. Pegasos is constantly litigating in court in order to defend VAD. As far as I am concerned, OCD wouldn´t comply with their requirements.

 

[Tamara Tami]

Maldición, por un lado, sé que es demasiado bueno para ser verdad, pero por otro lado, no puedo evitar querer creer que existe la posibilidad de que Pegasos realmente considere a las personas con enfermedades mentales. Supongo que cuando estás desesperado empiezas a pensar y actuar irracionalmente.

I sent you a pm, can you check it please

 

[Rabitfever]

He said a few patients he saw over the years were all destroyed internally w/ the meds he was giving them. He said he saw one guy healthy mid 30's and 5 years later had liver failure due to his anti depressants and anti psychotics. He said the guy used to be able to live a decent healthy life. But than overnight was really sick. Turns out the meds he got were messing him up because he couldn't process it like most people. But nobody listened to him at all because they thought he was just making up excuses to not take his meds. He said the guy actually was placed in assisted living in his 40's because of how bad the meds made him. But everyone was being told he caused it himself from suicide attempts. He told me that was a lie. He said if the guy asked him to sign a paper to go to Oregon and get AS kit he would have done it for him cause he felt bad for the guy. He told me a few shrinks think the way he does too but many won't say anything cause they're afraid to lose their license

Psychiatrists are pure evil. I've seen way too many lives destroyed by them (mine included). I wish there was a way to make them pay for their crimes

 

[guest_0428]

Does anyone know how to contact Pegasos other than Email?
I've made the initial VAD Deposit, but after contacting them via email, they stopped responding since February 24th.
If the VAD is not approved, I would like the partial refund back and seek alternatives to CTB. But I'm starting to worry due to the stopping of response from their end.

 

[LeavingEarly]

Does anyone know how to contact Pegasos other than Email?
I've made the initial VAD Deposit, but after contacting them via email, they stopped responding since February 24th.
If the VAD is not approved, I would like the partial refund back and seek alternatives to CTB. But I'm starting to worry due to the stopping of response from their end.

Did they get back to you??

I've been messaging Pegasos on whether there is a path to assisted suicide for someone like myself with OCD. Their latest response seems to be that it's possible, but that it requires more paperwork.

I know from research that people with mental illness rarely if ever get accepted to these organizations. Are they just leading me on for the deposit money (which is non refundable)?

Did they approve you?

 

[guest_0428]

Did they get back to you??

Did they approve you?

no they havent gotten back to me at all

 

[whitefeather]

Does anyone know how to contact Pegasos other than Email?
I've made the initial VAD Deposit, but after contacting them via email, they stopped responding since February 24th.
If the VAD is not approved, I would like the partial refund back and seek alternatives to CTB. But I'm starting to worry due to the stopping of response from their end.

Five weeks ago you paid $5000 to Pegasos , and not one single email since ? Not even a receipt email ? No 'processing' email ?

 

[LeavingEarly]

Five weeks ago you paid $5000 to Pegasos , and not one single email since ? Not even a receipt email ? No 'processing' email ?

If true that's a shame.

 

[HubbaHubba]

Does anyone know how to contact Pegasos other than Email?
I've made the initial VAD Deposit, but after contacting them via email, they stopped responding since February 24th.
If the VAD is not approved, I would like the partial refund back and seek alternatives to CTB. But I'm starting to worry due to the stopping of response from their end.

From their website, you can call them at +41 79 855 4090.

Let us know how it goes.

 

[guest_0428]

From their website, you can call them at +41 79 855 4090.

Let us know how it goes.

number is automated, not real-person response. their automated response just asks u to email them, which they dont respond (for me at least)

Five weeks ago you paid $5000 to Pegasos , and not one single email since ? Not even a receipt email ? No 'processing' email ?

not at all

 

[befree]

When did you upload your application ? When did you transfer the deposit ? Did you pay the €/CHF100,- anual member fee ?