Venting Most disgusting and selfish thing to say to a suicidal person has to be there will be people thatll be sad if you leave.

[Moidwaffen]

People that say this will guilt trip the suicidal person into continuing their suffering just because other people would be sad. Its not healthy nor helpful. Its literally just a manipulation tactic that forces kind but tired people to continue. Essentially what they are saying no you cant kill yourself and your suffering doesn't matter because someone would be sad so no youll keep suffering bc i said so.

I heard this many times now and yk what i dont care at this point. If youd be that sad then you can kill yourself too. Im dont putting others first my whole life. For once ill be selfish.

 

[Die.A.Ria]

Exactly like someone will be suffering either way if you dont CTB you will be suffering and its annoying when people say that to guilt trip because its like saying their suffering is more important than yours so you shouldn't CTB and end your suffering

 

[dearlydeparted44]

Why tell anyone that you're ideating in the first place?

 

[Forveleth]

People being devasted over my death would be a bonus. So many have hurt me during my life. It is their turn to suffer.

 

[sotomie]

I feel like people misunderstand depression because they think it's just sadness. All these nonsense "Be grateful, otjers have it worse" or "Think positively" or even worse "You don't pray to God enough" oh ffs, stfu. They will never understand why or how I can love and be loved and still feel disconnected. I'm so exhausted from pretending that tomorrow will feel different because someone told me to "look on the bright side", yeah.. Whatever.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

But why do they know? Why do you keep hearing it? It's time for some serious self-reflection.

 

[lastappleonearth]

People that say this will guilt trip the suicidal person into continuing their suffering just because other people would be sad. Its not healthy nor helpful. Its literally just a manipulation tactic that forces kind but tired people to continue. Essentially what they are saying no you cant kill yourself and your suffering doesn't matter because someone would be sad so no youll keep suffering bc i said so.

I heard this many times now and yk what i dont care at this point. If youd be that sad then you can kill yourself too. Im dont putting others first my whole life. For once ill be selfish.

I mean yeah, the whole thing abt suicide supposedly being selfish is strange to me. I don't think you should prioritise the feelings of others just to prolong your own suffering, if you don't see another way out anymore. It is though a different story, if you for example have underage kids, who do really need you as a parent, that's something one has to consider

 

[pleroman]

Why tell anyone that you're ideating in the first place?

Unfortunately this.
Issues such as involuntary holds, among others, make it outright dangerous to even hint at suicidality. You risk being held indefinitely, rights basically suspended, and coming out on the other end with financial burden that by itself can be life-destroying.

Thus the further pain of keeping it a secret, not being able to properly give goodbyes, the extreme stress and pain of mapping the entire process out yourself. And that's before you even get to the moment of truth: train horn blaring, gun in mouth, downing random pills behind locked doors etc.

Definitely agreed it's a nasty manipulative tactic. Like most of us weren't drowning in enough guilt and pain.
And the vibes equivalent to stating that your pain is not important compared to anyone else's.
If this message comes from govts, organizations, therapists, and so on, it is also along the lines of telling a peasant not to die because the king needs the fields plowed, taxman needs the revenue, boss needs bonus...

 

[RawRX3]

Very true. Other people can't live my life for me, and they aren't suffering in my place. It might be sad but so is living a life that feels like endless suffering with no relief

 

[thelostautistic]

I've experienced this too. My head of year in sixth form told me "suicide is the most selfish thing you could do" now why would you say that to a child thats struggling

 

[Ultimatefighter]

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People that say this will guilt trip the suicidal person into continuing their suffering just because other people would be sad. Its not healthy nor helpful. Its literally just a manipulation tactic that forces kind but tired people to continue. Essentially what they are saying no you cant kill yourself and your suffering doesn't matter because someone would be sad so no youll keep suffering bc i said so.

I heard this many times now and yk what i dont care at this point. If youd be that sad then you can kill yourself too. Im dont putting others first my whole life. For once ill be selfish.

here will be probably people be very sad if you left that's just reality. But when people say this they don't understand that it brings up feeling of blame inside the suicidal person mind. I don't think this people mean it for you to feel this way they just don't know how to cope with it or help you in any other way

 

[Myra_Toast]

People being devasted over my death would be a bonus. So many have hurt me during my life. It is their turn to suffer.

im sorry but those whove hurt u wont care. dont think of suicide as some spiteful act, bcs those who u want to hurt wont be affected, only the ones who acc care for u will

 

[evrlastingsea]

I hate when people say this too. to the point that i just get really pissed off and do something worse just to prove a point

 

[Forveleth]

im sorry but those whove hurt u wont care. dont think of suicide as some spiteful act, bcs those who u want to hurt wont be affected, only the ones who acc care for u will

Considering I am the main source of income for one of them, I think they are going to care.

 

[Myra_Toast]

Considering I am the main source of income for one of them, I think they are going to care.

theyll care for themselves, not u. try not to use them as a "reason", but idk u so i cant dictate ur life

 

[Forveleth]

theyll care for themselves, not u. try not to use them as a "reason", but idk u so i cant dictate ur life

Their misery is not my reason. I said in my post that their devastation will be a bonus to my death.