"Love Yourself" said by suicidal person to another sucidal person I don't know if it's a joke, stupid statement or genuinely that person saying me!!!I

[3rdworldsadness]

I met this guy who is suicidal depressed too ( not in this site but in a social media)

So he told me why he is suicidal and depressed cause he has mental conditions, we are friends on that social media for a few months we don't even talk regularly but I talk about my plans and why I want to do....but that person just said, "Love yourself" i felt dumbfounded... like WHAT?!


I told him I love myself so much that I don't want to suffer longer and that person again said you should love yourself. I sympathise with him about his suffering and I told that a suicidal person needs empathy what a person truly thinks, feels and what miserable horrible condition that peeson is....not using a typical paraphrase again and again... like I was totally wrong about why a person genuinely be like this?!! Why suicidal person in other social media are not quite empathic about other suicidal person.... it's like "get help", love Yourself", "get therapy" are like their only words and this shit has zero sympathy about what other person is feeling or thinking or what conditions they have doesn't matter to them (???)
Not all of course but most....

Truly it was my mistake to get know more alike people in other sites.....

Just wanted to vent. This is the only place I can vent....

 

[ZwartHartje]

I'm not sure if I understood correctly, did he really say those other things, like "get help and "get therapy"? That would be messed up and has nothing to do with loving yourself.
Other than that, there's nothing wrong with loving yourself.
There are these two misconceptions about suicidal people: 1. that they're always and necessarily mentally ill, and 2. that they always and necessarily hate themselves.
Both of these *can* be true, but neither has to be necessarily true. Neither of them is true about myself, for example.

Sadly there are always people who think that the prescriptions of the majority, as well as of certain authorities, must be upheld. Such as that being suicidal is always "wrong" and always needs to be "cured." Just like there are also some gay people who believe that being gay is "bad" and "wrong" and needs to be "cured."
It's sad to be this indoctrinated, but yes, such people exist.
But you shouldn't let this discourage you from meeting other people, it doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

 

[3rdworldsadness]

I'm not sure if I understood correctly, did he really say those other things, like "get help and "get therapy"? That would be messed up and has nothing to do with loving yourself.
Other than that, there's nothing wrong with loving yourself.
There are these two misconceptions about suicidal people: 1. that they're always and necessarily mentally ill, and 2. that they always and necessarily hate themselves.
Both of these *can* be true, but neither has to be necessarily true. Neither of them is true about myself, for example.

Sadly there are always people who think that the prescriptions of the majority, as well as of certain authorities, must be upheld. Such as that being suicidal is always "wrong" and always needs to be "cured." Just like there are also some gay people who believe that being gay is "bad" and "wrong" and needs to be "cured."
It's sad to be this indoctrinated, but yes, such people exist.
But you shouldn't let this discourage you from meeting other people, it doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

That person said, "love yourself" like he thought I hate myself and want to suicide, that was shallow but that's absolutely not true. I love myself so much that's why I never want to be in constant pain, bad health, food problems, poor facilities , poor country and horrible system, very few opportunities, messy bad conditions, failure in the competition, no money, more suffering in the future. That's how my constant life is it's not because I hate myself it's because I live in extremely underprivileged country, no opportunities, extreme struggles for food, extreme pollution and moreover, evil system that doesn't care about it's people, can't provide facilities to it's people, bad education.... everything I'm suffering and there's more....

Thank you for understanding.

 

[Lamentice]

In the past I unfortunately said this platitude to a close friend, but I didn't mean it in the vapid way, but she didn't understand how I meant it either, which was justified, cause really it was still a worthless piece of advice to offer.

I think it's interesting that on SaSu you don't encounter these platitudes that much, but meet another suicidal person out in the wild elsewhere and there's a good chance they won't mange to sympathize or relate to you, can't listen, can't offer support, can't engage, can't be genuine, can't be present, but they often will mooch all those qualities off of you. I understand those individuals are certainly struggling with something... something.. for sure....

Maybe they didn't know how to be present or what to say, but since they're supposed to have perspective on your experience they should honestly be able to anticipate what kind of support you need. They could fucking ask. They could fucking say that they don't know what to say but are still present with you. I mean.. it's not hard to learn how to show up for people, even less hard to just ask.

I'm sorry that's what you were met with there's nothing of value there