Life after Death – Scientific Evidence | An Interview with Oliver Lazar

[greyhound]

The interviewee is Dr Oliver Lazar; a professor of IT at FOM University in Düsseldorf.

Q: "What is death?"

A: "Death is only the end of the physical being. Basically we just get out of our body. So nothing much changes. Our body is like a car. We just open the door, get out, slam the door, and the car is scrapped. Our body is scrapped. But we ourselves are pure energy - love, soul - we transcend the material body."

 

[Amumu]

Proving the existence of life after death is as absurd as proving the inexistence of life after death.
People can only base themselves on probabilities, and in my opinion, it leans towards the latter.

Please put that stuff in off topic at least, because it seems you're trying to convince people of your beliefs.
At least that's the feeling I have. Maybe there are other forums to talk about that with like-minded people.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

"Scientific", what a fucking joke. I hate myself for having watched 40 minutes of this "just in case".

 

[greyhound]

Proving the existence of life after death is as absurd as proving the inexistence of life after death.
People can only base themselves on probabilities, and in my opinion, it leans towards the latter.

Please put that stuff in off topic at least, because it seems you're trying to convince people of your beliefs.
At least that's the feeling I have. Maybe there are other forums to talk about that with like-minded people.

Why is this so triggering to you atheists? This is hardly off topic to suicidal people. If you don't agree with this view then don't read/interact with the post. You chased off the couple of like minded people from the last thread I posted and prevented any discussion that would have occured between myself and them.

 

[Depressed Cat]

I fervently and desperately hope that consciousness ceases completely following death, and that one gets into a total, eternal void after it.

At the same time, I won't dismiss genuine scientific study into what happens after death. However, I don't consider near death experiences (NDEs) as valid proof of existence of life after death. NDEs are just that - they're what the brain experiences near death, and not after it!

The professor in this interview explains with some evidence that consciousness can exist after death, but it's not convincing enough for me. I need more solid, definitive proof to believe this.

 

[Trattkantarellen198]

I actually love life, it's just that it's too hard for me to live it because of deep belly cramps =( So I hope this is true, that life goes on after death, that I do get a better life after death. It's what I am praying for.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

To me it's as clear as day that consciousness goes on, even without evidence. This has helped me to diminish my SI and now I'm even somewhat looking forward to the physical sensation of dying.

 

[_Minsk]

Thanks for posting this, i used to watch these so often and they gave me a lot of comfort. Life without believing in a spiritual afterlife is just horrible for me.. but after having seen so much suffering, it's no longer that easy for me to believe in it.
50/50 either void or spiritual afterlife for me. I hope for the later though.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

"Scientific", what a fucking joke. I hate myself for having watched 40 minutes of this "just in case".

I swear every time I see one of your posts you got me cracking up dude.

 

[little helpers]

bro, just becuz he works in science or whatever doesn't mean he suddenly hold authority over death now. that's as bonkers as declaring oneself God. you get me?

and the question here is, if consciousness goes on after death, why kill ourselves? if you never really get killed anyways, wtf is suicide in the first place?

Edit: 'member how Newton got all religious before his death?

 

[Wrennie]

More like Oliver 'Lazarus'
(Just kidding)

 

[Amumu]

Why is this so triggering to you atheists? This is hardly off topic to suicidal people. If you don't agree with this view then don't read/interact with the post. You chased off the couple of like minded people from the last thread I posted and prevented any discussion that would have occured between myself and them.

No, it's the opposite, I said I was open to discussion and others said they weren't.
Don't change the roles. I even put a spoiler for my post to be friendlier.
This is completely off topic and I don't see why I wouldn't interact with your posts.

Moreover this isn't triggering, but trying to convince other people of your beliefs is against the rules.
Since you write a thread entitled "scientific evidence" about a subject you repeatedly talk about, I think this might be a problem.
"Do not troll or proselytize, meaning do not impose your views - no matter what they are"

Imagine I wrote a thread about Islam, Christianity, Buddhism (or even materialism) entitled "scientific evidence", what would be your reaction?
I think my post would be instantaneously reported. I haven't reported yours since I'm lenient.
I don't mean to be aggressive or anything, just try to respect the rules please.

 

[justsayin]

Why is this so triggering to you atheists? This is hardly off topic to suicidal people. If you don't agree with this view then don't read/interact with the post. You chased off the couple of like minded people from the last thread I posted and prevented any discussion that would have occured between myself and them.

Maybe because the clickbait title says "scientific evidence". If that guy had scientific evidence, he would get at least two Nobel prizes in an instant.

If you don't like people disagreeing with you, then maybe you should not post stuff on public forum. Discussion between like minded people is not a discussion, but more of a circlejerking.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

To me it's as clear as day that consciousness goes on, even without evidence. This has helped me to diminish my SI and now I'm even somewhat looking forward to the physical sensation of dying.

I agree. The realisation that consciousness is primary (and eternal) was a recent and shocking paradigm shift for me. The brain filters consciousness - it doesn't create it. Future humans will probably think it's hilarious that the prevalent scientific orthodoxy was once that unconscious matter in the brain is responsible for creating consciousness. Our three-dimensional physical reality isn't the whole story.

If anyone is interested, the billionaire Robert Bigelow rececently held an essay competition and offered $1.8M in prize money for anyone who could prove that consciousness lives on after bodily death. Here are the 29 winning essays.

Bigelow Institute

www.bigelowinstitute.org

 

[Amumu]

I agree. The realisation that consciousness is primary (and eternal) was a recent and shocking paradigm shift for me. The brain filters consciousness - it doesn't create it. Future humans will probably think it's hilarious that the prevalent scientific orthodoxy was once that unconscious matter in the brain is responsible for creating consciousness.

Why the hell don't people want to be respectful, just for a try? Do I say your beliefs are hilarious?

bro, just becuz he works in science or whatever doesn't mean he suddenly hold authority over death now. that's as bonkers as declaring oneself God. you get me?

and the question here is, if consciousness goes on after death, why kill ourselves? if you never really get killed anyways, wtf is suicide in the first place?

I really agree with the second sentence, I don't get it how people find comfort in the idea of ctb if they think there is something after life.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

Why the hell don't people want to be respectful, just for a try? Do I say your beliefs are hilarious?



I really agree with the second sentence, I don't get it how people find comfort in the idea of ctb if they think there is something after life.

I guess I'm speaking more for myself. I find it hilarious that this is what I once firmly believed - that consciousness is somehow a happy accident of evolution - having been brought up Catholic and then hardcore rejecting anything other than scientific materialism (with a few bouts of agnosticism) for the next twenty-five or so years. In rejecting Catholicism, I threw the baby out with the religious bathwater.

 

[greyhound]

I actually love life, it's just that it's too hard for me to live it because of deep belly cramps =( So I hope this is true, that life goes on after death, that I do get a better life after death. It's what I am praying for.

I'm so sorry you're in pain. I am also in the same boat. Chronic Ilness, in daily pain, and life is unbearable. I've managed to go for years like this up until this point but I think eventually everybody cracks. The psyche can just only take so much. I think I'm actually pretty close to CTB any day now.

To me it's as clear as day that consciousness goes on, even without evidence. This has helped me to diminish my SI and now I'm even somewhat looking forward to the physical sensation of dying.

I've also had some experiences that to me strongly indicate that our consciousness is something that exists independent from our body. Not a full on NDE but something along those lines. So my reading is more to validate what my own experience has shown me. But I still have a lot of SI which these books help a lot to diminish. I mean it still will be a major change and probably pretty intense.

I agree. The realisation that consciousness is primary (and eternal) was a recent and shocking paradigm shift for me. The brain filters consciousness - it doesn't create it. Future humans will probably think it's hilarious that the prevalent scientific orthodoxy was once that unconscious matter in the brain is responsible for creating consciousness. Our three-dimensional physical reality isn't the whole story.

If anyone is interested, the billionaire Robert Bigelow rececent held an essay competition and offered $1.8M in prize money for anyone who could prove that consciousness lives on after bodily death. Here are the 29 winning essays.

Bigelow Institute

www.bigelowinstitute.org

Yeah I agree it's a complete and shocking paradigm shift once the blinders of materialism/physicalism drop away. The filter theory explains everything so much better - and it was known over 100 years ago! The direction of research in psychology over the last century has been a complete waste.

It does seem incredibly exciting to think we're standing on the threshold of a completely new world to explore though - terra incognita of the mind.

Wow thanks I hadn't heard of that competition - what a fantastic collection of essays! I will be devoting time to read through them all.