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It's a long story but I'm staying with my cousins, his girlfriend, and their two year old. Tonight we were talking and they were telling me how hitler was a great leader, misunderstood and I can't believe everything people say.
I've been identifying as nonbinary for almost six years. I've identified as lesbian even longer than that. I really have felt this way for a long long time.
I just feel crazy in an environment where everyone feels so differently from me. Am I overreacting? It just feel crazy to me to mention hitler in a not negative way. Is this a normal way of thinking or am I insane?
 
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U. A.

U. A.

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The fact that you are doubting whether Hitler praise is bad is a sign you need to get the fuck out of there.
 
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It's a long story but I'm staying with my cousins, his girlfriend, and their two year old. Tonight we were talking and they were telling me how hitler was a great leader, misunderstood and I can't believe everything people say.
I've been identifying as nonbinary for almost six years. I've identified as lesbian even longer than that. I really have felt this way for a long long time.
I just feel crazy in an environment where everyone feels so differently from me. Am I overreacting? It just feel crazy to me to mention hitler in a not negative way. Is this a normal way of thinking or am I insane?
I live in northern Ga. It has changed a lot in my 22 year of life but I fear this is the norm. I don't want to leave my family behind but I can't believe my own flesh and blood feel this way. I am the only one who is gay or transgender ( not out as nb to family).
I'm the only one who has positive feelings towards other races and culture if I'm being honest. Idk I just have had lots of positive interactions with all types of people. Am I crazy?
The fact that you are doubting whether Hitler praise is bad is a sign you need to get the fuck out of there.
I really do. I know it's wrong, we live in north Ga so it's actually quite normal (Voting last year was scary lmao) . Within two years I should be totally out. I'm pretty attached to my younger cousins and I lost my dad as a teen so I just have some weird problems regarding leaving family. Hoping to live on my own and have limited contact with them going forward.
 
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TheCavernousDeep.

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Oct 22, 2025
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You're not wrong. The world has absoultely lost its way. I'm sorry you have to deal with this. People lean on eachother for support but... Like I said we lost our way. I hope you're taking care of yourself tn. 🫂
 
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U. A.

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Hoping to live on my own and have limited contact with them going forward.
This in combination with finding your people elsewhere are likely key to your survival. Not being able to be your authentic self around family will be a neverending torture, and who knows what they might do if they found out about who you really are, especially in such close proximity. Being attached to family is literally the most natural thing but sadly we sometimes need space
 
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isthisit?

isthisit?

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Hitler was a great leader but his ideas werent good. There is a difference.

He brought Germany out of economical ruin but in doing so did bad things
 
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There is alot of idots, and there is alot of bigots
 
slowlydying2mrrw

slowlydying2mrrw

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Apr 17, 2024
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It's a long story but I'm staying with my cousins, his girlfriend, and their two year old. Tonight we were talking and they were telling me how hitler was a great leader, misunderstood and I can't believe everything people say.
I've been identifying as nonbinary for almost six years. I've identified as lesbian even longer than that. I really have felt this way for a long long time.
I just feel crazy in an environment where everyone feels so differently from me. Am I overreacting? It just feel crazy to me to mention hitler in a not negative way. Is this a normal way of thinking or am I insane?
I think there's more wrong with the education system and political beliefs system if we can conflate conservatism with the far right? So, apparently conservatives naturally align with Hitler! :/

The conservatism/racism history stems more from the KKK than Hitler's perspective of the perfect Aryan (in which Hitler was not by Nazi standards).

You aren't wrong in your feelings about them and their beliefs on Hitler, but maybe it would help you to separate your political beliefs and your social beliefs. Not everyone has to agree with your views on life. Just like you don't with theirs.

They don't seem to have their theories on race and homogeneity in line with their own belief system. Why cry over sour milk that wasn't yours?
 
vitbar

vitbar

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Jun 4, 2023
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I think there's more wrong with the education system and political beliefs system if we can conflate conservatism with the far right? So, apparently conservatives naturally align with Hitler! :/
It seems fair to conflate "HIGHLY conservative" politics with ultraconservatism/the far right. Separating social and political beliefs only makes any sense when there isn't a push to have politics limit the right to make social choices. It's one thing believing premarital sex is wrong, and pushing to make it illegal, or similar.
 
slowlydying2mrrw

slowlydying2mrrw

Queen Bitch of the Universe
Apr 17, 2024
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It seems fair to conflate "HIGHLY conservative" politics with ultraconservatism/the far right. Separating social and political beliefs only makes any sense when there isn't a push to have politics limit the right to make social choices. It's one thing believing premarital sex is wrong, and pushing to make it illegal, or similar.
So it is easier to judge the person on the content of their political side than the content of the character. Ok MLK. :)

conservatism is a broad term in characterizing traditional beliefs. How do you compare a conservative Asian to the conservative Ronald Regan type of American? You can try, but if you conflate their political beliefs with yours, then who cares what culture or environment they grew up?

Its easy to believe what you believe if your political education comes from CNN and Fox network battle it out when they really are in cahoots together anyways, to manipulate your own belief system, because that's where public education gets their news from too. :)

Not all Americans who identify as conservative believes in Hitler, just like not all non binary and polyamorous people, aren't all hedonists who want to destroy the family structure.
It seems fair to conflate "HIGHLY conservative" politics with ultraconservatism/the far right. Separating social and political beliefs only makes any sense when there isn't a push to have politics limit the right to make social choices. It's one thing believing premarital sex is wrong, and pushing to make it illegal, or similar.
Btw, maybe you didn't know this but the Nazis aligned themselves with same beliefs as you. That's why they wanted to eliminate every other political party and inferior class 2 race. Just saying, if you even paid attention to history class in school.

"Oh you are black and a communist? And your mother was a gypsy? Well, you're evil then" - some Nazi.

But since it's uncool to be racist, the system learned to rewire your thought process on this. Just make people believe that white people are the conservative evil ones based on perception of politics and label the immigrants as some sort of liberal freedom movement for change.... And you have a new generation of identity politics. :)

CNN and Fox news needs your disdain for them to exist, so they can feed you their education on identity politics. Do you think they get better ratings when they agree with each other?
Hitler was a great leader but his ideas werent good. There is a difference.

He brought Germany out of economical ruin but in doing so did bad things
He was a great military commander and speaker. that's it. He messed up by going into Russia and that was his downfall. If he kept his truce with them, he could've won WW2.
 
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vitbar

vitbar

Escaped Lunatic
Jun 4, 2023
559

Of course conservatism is a broad church. All I'm saying is that when I read a superlative in front of a broad political label it typically implies the extremes. Keep in mind the OP is using the words "highly conservative" to describe people who are playing apologist for Hitler. I never said conservatism is always extreme.

That there is some alignment between my politics and the Nazi party is no surprise. It's going to be the case with any party. Even dictators give lip service to generally popular themes. You seem to be assuming my politics based on barely anything. What beliefs of mine are you saying I share with them?

I think you are fighting someone who isn't here. I'd never claim white people were all evil, or conservative. I'd expect non-white majority countries to be more conservative. Just a hunch. I'm not from the USA and don't watch Fox or CNN.
 
slowlydying2mrrw

slowlydying2mrrw

Queen Bitch of the Universe
Apr 17, 2024
67
Of course conservatism is a broad church. All I'm saying is that when I read a superlative in front of a broad political label it typically implies the extremes. Keep in mind the OP is using the words "highly conservative" to describe people who are playing apologist for Hitler. I never said conservatism is always extreme.

That there is some alignment between my politics and the Nazi party is no surprise. It's going to be the case with any party. Even dictators give lip service to generally popular themes. You seem to be assuming my politics based on barely anything. What beliefs of mine are you saying I share with them?

I think you are fighting someone who isn't here. I'd never claim white people were all evil, or conservative. I'd expect non-white majority countries to be more conservative. Just a hunch. I'm not from the USA and don't watch Fox or CNN.
Why are you relating conservatism to church? A Chinese conservatives isn't a Jesus freak but I think in your head, conservative = Christian orthodox = your enemy.

That's it. Reading the rest is like watching CNN and Fox.
 
vitbar

vitbar

Escaped Lunatic
Jun 4, 2023
559
Why are you relating conservatism to church? A Chinese conservatives isn't a Jesus freak but I think in your head, conservative = Christian orthodox = your enemy.

That's it. Reading the rest is like watching CNN and Fox.
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you are the one seeing enemies everywhere. I was agreeing with your position on conservatives not all being into Hitler and because I upset you with a word you extrapolate out all these motives and brainwashing. Get a grip.
 

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