Injecting nembutal?

[wham311]

I've read a comment that this isn't possible, and another which included protocol that I can no longer find..

Can someone advise on injection of nembutal?

I have a slow emptying stomach and don't believe I can drink it

 

[Crow_88]

What is a slow empty stomach?

 

[wham311]

What is a slow empty stomach?

Stomach muscles don't work properly so things don't absorb

 

[Crow_88]

Oh! Is that a medical condition. Sorry to hear

 

[Praestat_Mori]

N IV is used in animal euthanasia and afaik you could IV N but probably you can't do it alone.

Thiopental is also used IV in assisted euthanasia.

Much less is needed compared to oral intake.

 

[wham311]

N IV is used in animal euthanasia and afaik you could IV N but probably you can't do it alone.

Thiopental is also used IV in assisted euthanasia.

Much less is needed compared to oral intake.

Why iv over injection

 

[bankai]

Ah good ol nembutal,I've googled it so many times.Wish i could get my hands on it.i would shave,wear my best clothes put 1 leg over another and ingest it and nod off.

 

[intr0verse]

Why iv over injection

Because depending on the concentration of the solution, the amount to be injected could be quite big.

 

[wham311]

Because depending on the concentration of the solution, the amount to be injected could be quite big.

Yea 100ml is a lot.

 

[Talvikki]

I have a slow emptying stomach and don't believe I can drink it

Nembutal (pentobarbital) is primarily absorbed in the stomach, unlike most drugs that require passage into the small intestine. This rapid absorption is a key advantage of barbiturates....so oral administration of N would be effective.

 

[Talvikki]

Interesting case of a woman who injected herself with pentobarbital

A 79-year-old woman was found by her general practitioner at home in a coma. A 100 mL brown bottle without label, containing about 2-3 mL of an unknown viscous liquid and precipitated crystals were found near the patient, together with a syringe (figure 1). A small injection mark and purple spot were observed on her left elbow.

Toxicology screening of the liquid and crystals in the bottle indicated the presence of ethanol, propylene glycol and a barbiturate-like compound. e STIP analysis revealed the presence of pentobarbital in the bottle. The pH of the mixture in the bottle was 11. This can be attributed to the presence of the pentobarbital in the form of the sodium salt. The pentobarbital concentration of the liquid in the bottle was 16g/100 mL.



In this case, it was possible to estimate the amount of pentobarbital present in the body and the minimal volume of the pentobarbital mixture that the patient had injected into herself.

Therapeutic ranges of pentobarbital in serum are between 1-10 mg/L. Serum levels above 10 mg/L can cause coma and levels above 30 mg/L as observed in the present case are usually lethal.

The volume of distribution (Vd) of pentobarbital is 1 L/kg. The woman's weight was approximately 70 kg, resulting in a Vd of pentobarbital of approximately 70 L.The estimated amount of pentobarbital in the body at the time of sampling was approximately 2.1 grams. In the present case of a presumed auto-injection with a concentrated pentobarbital solution of 16 g/100 mL, it is possible to calculate that at least 13 mL of a possibly veterinary pentobarbital solution has been injected.

Interestingly, other cases have shown the death of individuals after auto-injection with similar doses of pentobarbital. For instance, Romain et al. describe a 51-year old man who was found dead who also had a purple spot at the site of injection. The concentration of the injected pentobarbital mixture was 21.7 mg/L and the estimated amount of injected pentobarbital was approximately 1.6 g.

Netherlands Journal of Critical Care
https://de-intensivist.nl/wp-conten...on-by-intravenous-pentobarbital-injection.pdf

 

[Talvikki]

Nembutal (pentobarbital) is primarily absorbed in the stomach, unlike most drugs that require passage into the small intestine. This rapid absorption is a key advantage of barbiturates....so oral administration of N would be effective.

Correction: Nembutal is not primarily absorbed in the stomach, but rather mainly in the small intestine. However, according to Philip Nitschke, barbiturates have the (unusual) benefit of being absorbed from the stomach as well as the small intestine. So Nembutal would be effective.

 

[UaScorpioVetal224]

I've read a comment that this isn't possible, and another which included protocol that I can no longer find..

Can someone advise on injection of nembutal?

I have a slow emptying stomach and don't believe I can drink it

Hello. Where did you find Nembutal?

 

[Aquiles292]

Interesting case of a woman who injected herself with pentobarbital

A 79-year-old woman was found by her general practitioner at home in a coma. A 100 mL brown bottle without label, containing about 2-3 mL of an unknown viscous liquid and precipitated crystals were found near the patient, together with a syringe (figure 1). A small injection mark and purple spot were observed on her left elbow.

Toxicology screening of the liquid and crystals in the bottle indicated the presence of ethanol, propylene glycol and a barbiturate-like compound. e STIP analysis revealed the presence of pentobarbital in the bottle. The pH of the mixture in the bottle was 11. This can be attributed to the presence of the pentobarbital in the form of the sodium salt. The pentobarbital concentration of the liquid in the bottle was 16g/100 mL.

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In this case, it was possible to estimate the amount of pentobarbital present in the body and the minimal volume of the pentobarbital mixture that the patient had injected into herself.

Therapeutic ranges of pentobarbital in serum are between 1-10 mg/L. Serum levels above 10 mg/L can cause coma and levels above 30 mg/L as observed in the present case are usually lethal.

The volume of distribution (Vd) of pentobarbital is 1 L/kg. The woman's weight was approximately 70 kg, resulting in a Vd of pentobarbital of approximately 70 L.The estimated amount of pentobarbital in the body at the time of sampling was approximately 2.1 grams. In the present case of a presumed auto-injection with a concentrated pentobarbital solution of 16 g/100 mL, it is possible to calculate that at least 13 mL of a possibly veterinary pentobarbital solution has been injected.

Interestingly, other cases have shown the death of individuals after auto-injection with similar doses of pentobarbital. For instance, Romain et al. describe a 51-year old man who was found dead who also had a purple spot at the site of injection. The concentration of the injected pentobarbital mixture was 21.7 mg/L and the estimated amount of injected pentobarbital was approximately 1.6 g.

Netherlands Journal of Critical Care
https://de-intensivist.nl/wp-conten...on-by-intravenous-pentobarbital-injection.pdf

I don't understand. Was this person found person dead?