I'm scared of taking SN, because I'm scared it will be painful.

[heretogethelp]

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being painless and 10 being extremely painful, how painful is SN. I know it causes headaches, dizziness, fast heart rate, nausea and shortness of breath. It can take up to 4 hours to die after taking sodium nitrate, so I wonder if it will be very uncomfortable/painful. I am very sensitive, btw..

 

[Symbiote]

I have a high pain tolerance so it was a 0-1 for me. You may feel slight discomfort like dizziness and fast heart rate, coupled by whatever anxiety issues you may have that would make it slightly worse. Like any method, anxiety and fear will be your SI that you'll have to personally overcome.

 

[Efilismislife]

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being painless and 10 being extremely painful, how painful is SN. I know it causes headaches, dizziness, fast heart rate, nausea and shortness of breath. It can take up to 4 hours to die after taking sodium nitrate, so I wonder if it will be very uncomfortable/painful. I am very sensitive, btw..

You should just see case of methemoglobinemia cause SN cause death via methemoglobinemia.

But If the level doesnt exceed 20% its still fine no issue until level exceeds 50%

Methaemoglobinaemia

Q: Why are Smurf’s Blue? A: Methaemoglobin (MetHb) of course! – MetHb is produced by oxidisation of the Iron in Haemoglobin (Hb) from Fe2+ to Fe3+ – Fe3+ prevents Hb carrying oxy…

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With a methemoglobin level of <20%, simple measure may be all that is required. where the methemoglobin level exceeds 20% administration of supplemental oxygen and MB may be indicated. In the cases illustrated in this report, with the first patient who was symptomatic requiring ICU care

Journal of Applied Hematology

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But how could anyone that still alive knows the exact whole process of pain intensity until its finally finished/die?
Cause its a process that keeps going, it get accumulated until the body is finished.
not just 1 stab of needle and done

holding breath for 1 minute isnt gonna feel the same as holding breath for 1 hour until die

Even you can try taste it a little. But its still not the same.
cause "the dosage makes the poison"
even a cyanide only cause nausea if its only a little

 

[xrafinha]

Im expecting pain, but I'm used to it by now. Your body will be forced to stop working by an alian substance.

 

[Cya89]

i was just about to post the exact same topic. have any SN attempters who have survived said whether it's painful or not?

 

[Symbiote]

i was just about to post the exact same topic. have any SN attempters who have survived said whether it's painful or not?

See my post above.

 

[Cya89]

See my post above.

how did it feel? was it like going to sleep?

 

[Symbiote]

how did it feel? was it like going to sleep?

Fast heart beat, and then out like a light. Felt the same way as being under anesthesia at the dentist's office.

 

[Anonymous_A]

When people say 'pain' it's more perceived pain than actual pain.
Your HR is gonna shoot the fook up, your gon be scared shitless from the time you've put it in your mouth, till you pass out.
This amount of time isn't long, but sure will seem like a lifetime since you'll be scared shitless, you'll be doubting even wanting to ctb.
Anxiety is going to be though the roof. "Oh shit, I'm actually gonna die" type of feeling
It doesn't burn your throat, it irritates it. By irritate, it's similar to the feeling, slightly lesser, to vomiting stomach acid.

 

[Efilismislife]

SN cause death by Methemoglobinemia.

But If the level doesnt exceed 20% its still fine no issue until level exceeds 50%

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/attachments/img_20210601_210904-jpg.69120/

Methaemoglobinaemia

Q: Why are Smurf’s Blue? A: Methaemoglobin (MetHb) of course! – MetHb is produced by oxidisation of the Iron in Haemoglobin (Hb) from Fe2+ to Fe3+ – Fe3+ prevents Hb carrying oxy…

www.embeds.co.uk

Journal of Applied Hematology

www.jahjournal.org

With a methemoglobin level of <20%, simple measure may be all that is required. where the methemoglobin level exceeds 20% administration of supplemental oxygen and MB may be indicated. In the cases illustrated in this report, with the first patient who was symptomatic requiring ICU care

 

[diyCTB]

@heretogethelp What is sodium nitrate?

 

[WornOutLife]

Well, I guess I don't know exactly but SN looks less painful than lots of methods out there so, it will probably be my method. (if I can magically get it)

 

[Wrennie]

I was sick last night and vomited and then re-realized how horrific the feeling of nausea is, since I hadn't been sick in a long time. It makes me more averse to taking it, since the vast majority of people throw up.

SN reactions highly vary depending on the individual, but yes, it does have the potential to be very painful (according to some users who were in the process of CTB). It's just a question of whether *that* pain outweighs the pain you're experiencing in life, and if you're willing to endure it when the time comes.

 

[NothingElseMatters]

I was sick last night and vomited and then re-realized how horrific the feeling of nausea is, since I hadn't been sick in a long time. It makes me more averse to taking it, since the vast majority of people throw up.

SN reactions highly vary depending on the individual, but yes, it does have the potential to be very painful (according to some users who were in the process of CTB). It's just a question of whether *that* pain outweighs the pain you're experiencing in life, and if you're willing to endure it when the time comes.

that's my concern, throwing up is really terrible

 

[LansJ70]

Not to belittle anyones feelings, but I find it really hard to understand how someone who is wanting to die and is prepared to end it all can baulk at a method because they might throw up, "because throwing up is horrible".

I mean if your life is that bad and you don't want to be here any more, then surely throwing up at the end is nothing?

If you decide not to do it to avoid throwing up and live for another 30 years - well I can bet you with pretty much absolute certainty that you'll throw up at least once in those years through illness.

It makes no rational sense at all.

Any method might involve throwing up, whether you get hit by a train and smashed into pieces, jump off a cliff and throw up on the way to the rocks, drink nembutal, hang yourself, inert gas asphyxiate yourself, or anything else - even dying of old age and/or illness.

Death is not flicking an off switch. Something has to happen, and throwing up is pretty much nothing.

Isn't it?

 

[Efilismislife]

I understand why you may not understand it as its truly doesnt make sense
(But there are many things in life that doesnt make sense unfortunately, especially human mind )

To me im more concerned about the chemical pneumonia due to intoxication from throwing up, not only about the throwing up itself

So i dont specifically speak only about throwing up but im speaking about the fear of dying process until death and why people search for the most preferable method/the least painful

Even a chronic incurable debilitating disease patient like cancer, interstitial lung disease, MS or ME or lupus, etc
Whos living in hell, tortured in excruciating pain all over the body+mentally for the rest of life, still afraid of dying/suicide and cant just throw themselves/jump to die

Its even worse because theyve experienced the pain of dying and traumatized by it.



Besides people have different: strength, personality, thinking, stress tolerance level and pain sensitivity, etc
(Thats why not everybody capable to pass the test into military force)

It doesnt always mean if someone cant throw themselves under the buss meaning their life isnt bad enough
Or if their life is bad enough they should be able to throw themselves under the buss

Not to belittle anyones feelings, but I find it really hard to understand how someone who is wanting to die and is prepared to end it all can baulk at a method because they might throw up, "because throwing up is horrible".

I mean if your life is that bad and you don't want to be here any more, then surely throwing up at the end is nothing?

If you decide not to do it to avoid throwing up and live for another 30 years - well I can bet you with pretty much absolute certainty that you'll throw up at least once in those years through illness.

It makes no rational sense at all.

Any method might involve throwing up, whether you get hit by a train and smashed into pieces, jump off a cliff and throw up on the way to the rocks, drink nembutal, hang yourself, inert gas asphyxiate yourself, or anything else - even dying of old age and/or illness.

Death is not flicking an off switch. Something has to happen, and throwing up is pretty much nothing.

Isn't it?

 

[diyCTB]

There are way worse methods to die in terms of peacefulness. If you can't handle SN then maybe you are not ready or consider hard to obtain holy grail method.

If it was not SN, I would consider no other methods. The only thing I worry about is failing.

 

[Octavina]

Fast heart beat, and then out like a light. Felt the same way as being under anesthesia at the dentist's office.

That's my theory of what death is like. I got my wisdom teeth removed last year and being under anesthésia was peaceful, everything was black but it wasn't scary.

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being painless and 10 being extremely painful, how painful is SN. I know it causes headaches, dizziness, fast heart rate, nausea and shortness of breath. It can take up to 4 hours to die after taking sodium nitrate, so I wonder if it will be very uncomfortable/painful. I am very sensitive, btw..

Okay since I failed my attempt last year I'll break it down for you. This should make your experience less uncomfortable. You need
Antiemetics (Anti sickness/ nausea and vomiting)
Beta blockers (slow heart rate down I think
Benzos ( Relax your brain and lessen anxiety)
Paracetamol( headache/fever symptoms)
Technically these are all optional but if you have severe anxiety and I do because of my failed SN attempt it's okay and I understand.
I couldn't keep mine down longer than 10 minutes, and I couldn't even sit up or crawl over to to take another dose it was horrible

 

[orlandom]

it was horrible

What exactly do you mean by these words?

 

[diyCTB]

@Octavina Hello. A few questions:

1. How much SN you took?

2. What antiemetic you took and how much?

3. Did you follow 48-hour regimen or did a stat dose?

4. What beta blocker did you take and how much?

5. Did you take antiacid?

6. Why you didn't take Ibuprofen instead of Paracetamol?

7. Why have you failed?

 

[Pookie]

SN is not known to be a particularly painful method. But it's definitely not the most peaceful method. SN is a poison and your body will behave as if it's a poison, so it won't be a comfortable way to go. Your body will recognise it as a poison and will do anything to get rid of it, even if you take anti-entemtics beforehand and follow the regime by the book.

I suppose there are some "lucky" individuals who won't vomit or will lose consciousness very quickly. But even if it takes 5 minutes to lose consciousness, those 5 minutes of intense discomfort will likely feel like an eternity and you might be acutely aware that you're dying.

The symptoms of SN poisoning will probably feel very foreign, unlike anything you've experienced before because it's not as if methemoglobinemia is a common thing to experienced/succumb to.

 

[Octavina]

@Octavina Hello. A few questions:

1. How much SN you took?

2. What antiemetic you took and how much?

3. Did you follow 48-hour regimen or did a stat dose?

4. What beta blocker did you take and how much?

5. Did you take antiacid?

6. Why you didn't take Ibuprofen instead of Paracetamol?

7. Why have you failed?

1. 25g
2. None
3. Nope
4. None
5. No
6. I'm alergic to ibuprophen/penicillin etc
7. I did it impulsively, took no other medications suggested in Stan's guide, and followed no regimen. The fault was on me, I thought I could manage the intense symptoms, but I threw up too much for it to be fatal. I've got all the different medications now and prescribed some Diazepam but to be honest is rather choose a different method because of the nightmares from failing

 

[Lost Magic]

No method is perfect. You just have to accept that and find something that is suitable.

 

[brutalus]

Not to belittle anyones feelings, but I find it really hard to understand how someone who is wanting to die and is prepared to end it all can baulk at a method because they might throw up, "because throwing up is horrible".

I mean if your life is that bad and you don't want to be here any more, then surely throwing up at the end is nothing?

If you decide not to do it to avoid throwing up and live for another 30 years - well I can bet you with pretty much absolute certainty that you'll throw up at least once in those years through illness.

It makes no rational sense at all.

Any method might involve throwing up, whether you get hit by a train and smashed into pieces, jump off a cliff and throw up on the way to the rocks, drink nembutal, hang yourself, inert gas asphyxiate yourself, or anything else - even dying of old age and/or illness.

Death is not flicking an off switch. Something has to happen, and throwing up is pretty much nothing.

Isn't it?

hello, i want to answer this question if i may. ive lived a very sheltered life but also have asthma and am very prone to accidents. as i grow older ive aquired more illness and frequency + severity of accidents. i have to pay for all this as well. I have developed a very strong fear of pain. It is such that i havent killed myself only because i havent found a painless method.

 

[LastFlowers]

Fast heart beat, and then out like a light. Felt the same way as being under anesthesia at the dentist's office.

How did you survive? Were you found?

Not to belittle anyones feelings, but I find it really hard to understand how someone who is wanting to die and is prepared to end it all can baulk at a method because they might throw up, "because throwing up is horrible".

I mean if your life is that bad and you don't want to be here any more, then surely throwing up at the end is nothing?

If you decide not to do it to avoid throwing up and live for another 30 years - well I can bet you with pretty much absolute certainty that you'll throw up at least once in those years through illness.

It makes no rational sense at all.

Any method might involve throwing up, whether you get hit by a train and smashed into pieces, jump off a cliff and throw up on the way to the rocks, drink nembutal, hang yourself, inert gas asphyxiate yourself, or anything else - even dying of old age and/or illness.

Death is not flicking an off switch. Something has to happen, and throwing up is pretty much nothing.

Isn't it?

My only thing with puking normally vs puking during the dying process, is that it's going to bring another level of panic and bodily dysfunction into the equation, and it's also significant as if you do throw up, you still need to be aware enough afterwards to take another dose.
Nausea can be debilitating and it can serve to be a wrench in one's plans and execution of their regimen, could even set off a failure that ends in more turmoil.

So it's really not the same thing as having a stomach bug and being able to lie down without having to worry about the consequences it will have in regards to your actual death.

 

[Efilismislife]

hello, i want to answer this question if i may. ive lived a very sheltered life but also have asthma and am very prone to accidents. as i grow older ive aquired more illness and frequency + severity of accidents. i have to pay for all this as well. I have developed a very strong fear of pain. It is such that i havent killed myself only because i havent found a painless method.

Same i also have health issues. I guess people whos been through that will develop that defensive reaction. I even have to think carefully before practicing methods because my body react differently than normal people. Its such a hassle

 

[Lifeless mindset]

1. 25g
2. None
3. Nope
4. None
5. No
6. I'm alergic to ibuprophen/penicillin etc
7. I did it impulsively, took no other medications suggested in Stan's guide, and followed no regimen. The fault was on me, I thought I could manage the intense symptoms, but I threw up too much for it to be fatal. I've got all the different medications now and prescribed some Diazepam but to be honest is rather choose a different method because of the nightmares from failing

This might be a really dumb question but did you go to the hospital after you failed?