I'm disappointed in certain threads being removed

[Carrot]

The thread wasn't mine. I enjoy talking to people with views different from my own (assuming they are written in good faith, which isn't always the case). Showing and learning different perspectives can be helpful.

I'm assuming good intentions of the developers of this site, and good intentions of people trying to help suicidal people.

Anyway, here is a reply I wrote, almost verbatim. Didn't want it to go to waste.

The only thing you can do to prevent someone from suicide is solve the problem that makes them suicidal! It's as easy as that.

Best reply in this thread that actually answers the question instead of attacking OP. - I understand their frustration, but I don't think that's the way to communicate. If that isn't the answer they were looking for, there are plenty of easy to find resources here.

Plenty of people would like to live their lives (in a way that doesn't hurt others, just minding their own business), including myself, if it wasn't so miserable for often unsolveable reasons.

Removing ways to commit suicide doesn't solve their problem. Throwing them into a mental hospital (and patting yourself on the back for doing good work) doesn't solve the undelying issue either.

I knew somebody who was forcebly put into a mental hospital for suicidal thoughts. Not sure how that helps them. Taxpayers pay for that person and keep them miserable instead of letting them die peacefully. If we are being pragmatic, letting them die would allow him to donate his organs (if they wishe to), instead of wasting everybodies money. There are cases where this is helpful, but if the person just sitting their for no reason why their problems are not being fixed - they would stay there forever, unless they lie.

How to fix "solve the problem that makes them suicidal"? That depends on the reason.

I see so much evil go unpunished or even rewarded. So many lies, so much misinformation. How do you even start fixing that, when there are people who willingfully benefit from that, from diving others, blaming orhers, breaking stuff intentionally, deliberately keeping people hopeless.

And those brave enough who attempt to fix that are threatned or destroyed in one way or another, just to keep going and benefit from implicting misery on people, who would love to just live their lives. Fix that.

When I was younger I found history lessons boring. I still do, but at least now I see somebenefit from learning it.

Keep people educated, informed. Stop believing people who constantly lie. Teach people about manipulation techniques so they can be aware when it is used upon them. Maybe that should even be taught in school. Raise empathy of others, somehow. Stop being selfish, greedy. Sometimes people are in terrible situations which was not their fault; and they tried to fix that several times, unsuccessfully.

I hope you, OP, aren't and will never have to be in such position like many of people here are.

 

[bipolar22]

Not knowing the thread that was removed. But I feel like voicing some thoughts. fixing the lies and cunning nature of the way society runs would make it breakdown. Greed is one of the strongest human marks. And even if the system were fixed it would soon go back to corruption. The only way to fix things is a fresh start. Without the humans species if you ask me . Let something more capable of piece and and compassion evolve. But the way we treat our planet it's only a matter of time. It's not just humans though. Animals have to devour one another to survive aswell. Just goes to show life is just not something that should exist in the first place. I mean if it has to be so heartless and cruel at least don't give living things the ability to feel immense pain and suffering. I deeply believe life was just a rare accident. I really hope so.
as for money from taxpayer goverments hope to convince that person to get back to work for 40 50 60 years. And I guess it works often enough that's just more than worth that letting suicidal ppl just die .
Anyway maybe I missed the topic completely. my mental sharpness isn't was it uses to be.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@CarrotEater Thanks for quoting me and saving it.

I wrote this and I remembered the thread now. I have no idea why and when the thread was deleted. Obviously, it was started by a potential pro-lifer and the discussion probably got derailed at some point.

 

[JesiBel]

True, I don't understand why they delete them either. It's happened to me several times when I reply to a thread and it's then deleted.

For example, I almost always respond to threads that talk about the method I chose.

Someone posted a photo of a rope and asked if it worked for the method. I wrote a long reply suggesting that it was not a good option and that OP look for a better rope, and the entire thread was deleted.

Information the OP was seeking was being provided. There are pined threads about how to commit suicide (new users can see them)... it doesn't make sense.

There are many threads providing information on protocols, methods, and ideas... it's a suicide forum, and the answers are based on that same argument.

I don't understand the logic of deleting a response with information to what was asked.

 

[Pluto]