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KillingPain267

KillingPain267

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Apr 15, 2024
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It's the only thing that ACTUALLY works to numb both my mental and physical pain (backpain). So what if it's addictive! It works. When I'm numbed by morphine or oxycodone I neither feel suicidal, depressed, traumatized from trauma or anxious. All the other crap, SSRIs, SNRIs etc. doesn't do shit on me. But since doctors won't prescribe opioids or even fuckin' benzos I am stuck with planning to end my depressed and anxious brain for good. So their choice is either leave me with 1. severe suffering, 2. adiiction to opioids or 3. let me ctb. But since doctors refuse 2. and 3. they let me suffer for decades. What does that say about their "ethics"? What's worse? Allow me to be addicted or ctb? In reality they don't care if I kms or suffer pain for half a century more. They only care about covering their ass from laws and lawsuits about addictive substances.
 
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NegevChina

NegevChina

I've done the best I could
Sep 5, 2024
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It's the only thing that ACTUALLY works to numb both my mental and physical pain (backpain). So what if it's addictive! It works. When I'm numbed by morphine or oxycodone I neither feel suicidal, depressed, traumatized from trauma or anxious. All the other crap, SSRIs, SNRIs etc. doesn't do shit on me. But since doctors won't prescribe opioids or even fuckin' benzos I am stuck with planning to end my depressed and anxious brain for good. So their choice is either leave me with 1. severe suffering, 2. adiiction to opioids or 3. let me ctb. But since doctors refuse 2. and 3. they let me suffer for decades. What does that say about their "ethics"? What's worse? Allow me to be addicted or ctb? In reality they don't care if I kms or suffer pain for half a century more. They only care about covering their ass from laws and lawsuits about addictive substances.
I so much know how you feel! I'm suffering from severe back pain for over 7 years, mental pain for years on years- mainly anxiety rooted in childhood trauma. Wish it all will end cant stand it any more. Planning to CTB.
My back pain was so bad at the beginning I couldn't sit on a chair for more then 10 minutes. Tried everything. Eventually tried Acupuncture with disbelieve but very slowly over a year it improved my pain to the point I could function with it in the background.
But now an additional internal health issue has made my life hell.
Sending you hugs :hug: and hope you can get opioids as much as you need.
 
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LunarLight

LunarLight

i'm a loser, a failure
Apr 3, 2024
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We're on the same boat. Opioids are the only thing that proved to be effective in numbing my pain.
 
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identity0

identity0

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Sep 25, 2024
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Agreed. I had a period many years ago where i abused opioids for a while and it did help. It's also been observed that tolerance eventually reaches a point where you can just take it every day and the effect doesnt necessarily decrease, so it is sustainable, as studied with chronic pain patients. (If i had access i would keep taking it but i dont anymore)
 
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sevennn

sevennn

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Sep 11, 2024
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the world cares too much that someone gets high. to its own detriment like not prescribing pain relief. i honestly don't understand why it matters to anyone who puts what in their body.
 
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LunarLight

LunarLight

i'm a loser, a failure
Apr 3, 2024
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i honestly don't understand why it matters to anyone who puts what in their body.
I agree. It's a scandal that people go to jail for consuming drugs. They should be all legal.
 
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KillingPain267

KillingPain267

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LunarLight

LunarLight

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Apr 3, 2024
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Including Nembutal 😉
Haha, yes of course. I don't understand the point of throwing people who just want a peaceful end in jail. Do they represent any kind of danger to society? Come on.
 
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voidlover777

voidlover777

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Apr 11, 2024
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Haha, yes of course. I don't understand the point of throwing people who just want a peaceful end in jail. Do they represent any kind of danger to society? Come on.
it makes a lot of sense if u think about it from the perspective of the ruling class. First of all, they don't want the people they keep in desperate poverty and use for labor to be able to die peacefully. And another excuse to incarcerate people is a gift to the prison industrial complex. And a warning for anyone considering not contributing to the machine. EDIT: forgot to mention that they don't want oppressed people to compare their lives to nonexistence without the fear of dying painfully or the living hell of a failed attempt.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
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From experience, I've learned that the job of doctors is to prolong life above all else, rather than improve the quality of it/make things more bearable. To a lot of people this would seem paradoxical, as they assume doctors can treat the root cause of many pathologies and cure them for good, and do not realise that certain ailments are chronic issues that need to be managed throughout someone's lifetime.

The concepts of health and happiness seem to be deemed mutually exclusive to a lot of healthcare workers. Pain is a virtue in many cultures, after all, but a lot of healthcare workers take this to the extreme and think patients exaggerate or lie about pain for attention, and need to be "tougher" despite this logic being complete nonsense. And even if it wasn't, if someone was truly seeking attention, doesn't that indicate an underlying issue that's being neglected?

You're completely right that it's a kind of legal tip toeing around regulations and liability game for them. No matter where you are in the world, this seems to happen in healthcare settings, I've noticed. A lot of doctors, nurses, and therapists also want to impose their own beliefs and ideas onto patients, so they foolishly posture that *they* could handle certain situations or levels of pain, so the patient should be able to. A false equivalency.

I sympathize with you a lot, because I also have chronic back pain, and tried lots of things for it that don't help at all. The only thing that touches the pain when it gets bad is low level opiates, but of course I'm "too young for that." People seriously underestimate how badly it hurts if you have a spinal issue and downplay it. The difference between having strong painkillers and not is like night and day.

Yeah, opioids can become addicting and have the potential for danger in certain contexts. Yet, many other substances are the same, with far less medicinal value (i.e. alcohol). But the priorities of doctors and politicians are completely mixed up if they are more worried about chemical dependency than subjecting people to decades of hell with intractable pain, with no hope for anything to manage it with. The demonisation of opioids feels like a psy op.
 
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endofline2010

endofline2010

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Aug 8, 2024
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Oxys, hydro, heroine, fentanyl, and nitazenes are all as easy to get on DNMs as ordering on Amazon...

You're an adult, you don't need someone's permission to feel better.
 
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Jack_Nimble

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Jun 22, 2024
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Oxys, hydro, heroine, fentanyl, and nitazenes are all as easy to get on DNMs as ordering on Amazon...

You're an adult, you don't need someone's permission to feel better.
What is DNM's? How is this easy?
 
endofline2010

endofline2010

Student
Aug 8, 2024
141
What is DNM's? How is this easy?
Darknet markets, they sell drugs, fake ids, etc...

To access, you need 4 things.
  1. Tor
  2. Kleopatra
  3. Bitcoin Wallet
  4. Monero Wallet
Go to tor.taxi and see which market you like best. Then go from there. Literally like ordering on Amazon/Ebay.
 
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KillingPain267

KillingPain267

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Yeah, opioids can become addicting and have the potential for danger in certain contexts. Yet, many other substances are the same, with far less medicinal value (i.e. alcohol).
Yeah, and alcohol withdrawal can even be deadly, while opioid withdrawals are unpleasant but not deadly.
The demonisation of opioids feels like a psy op.
Yeah, it's strange. I saw an article in my country saying that 4% of 15-19 year olds have been taking opioids. Only 4 percent! But the article made it seem like a massive problem, lol.
 
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