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hÊšll

hÊšll

not real.
Jun 18, 2021
467
many users here feel bad about ctb because maybe that will make others who have known them to kill themselves. but i think that's a good thing.
more suicides, less suffering in the world.
imagine how much suffering you are avoiding by killing yourself, the same thing for the others

what do you think?
 
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deflationary

Fussy exister. Living in the epilogue
Mar 11, 2020
529
It's much more likely that the people in your life are just gonna suffer without killing themselves.
 
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hÊšll

hÊšll

not real.
Jun 18, 2021
467
It's much more likely that the people in your life are just gonna suffer without killing themselves.
they will suffer no matter what. i'm just saying that if they decide to follow your steps, then that's a good thing because they finally realize that there's no peace in this life.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
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Yes, I believe most people are better off dead--even if they don't know it.
 
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deflationary

Fussy exister. Living in the epilogue
Mar 11, 2020
529
they will suffer no matter what. i'm just saying that if they decide to follow your steps, then that's a good thing because they finally realize that there's no peace in this life.
I'm saying that's an unlikely outcome. The likely one is that they're just gonna suffer more and not exit. Suffering isn't just a binary thing. I wouldn't mind it either if everyone I knew immediately CTBd after I'm dead. But that's obviously not gonna happen.
 
BottomlessPit

BottomlessPit

Staring at the edge
Apr 28, 2021
423
I agree, the only problem I can think of is that they might botch their attempt due to a lack of knowledge of reliable methods. But if they do it successfully, good for them. This way they can avoid unimaginable amounts of pain and misery that might have otherwise ravaged them.

I'm saying that's an unlikely outcome.
They didn't claim that it's likely, just that it's a possibility. As evidenced by the usage of the words "maybe", "might", and "if".
 
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aminend

aminend

Warlock
May 24, 2020
746
Yes. I think if suicide be legal and easy for every one the world will be empty from pain and suffering
 
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Fussy exister. Living in the epilogue
Mar 11, 2020
529
They didn't claim that it's likely, just that it's a possibility. As evidenced by the usage of the words "maybe", "might", and "if".
Fair enough. It read to me like an argument for why the feelings of others shouldn't matter when considering your own suicide because they can always just kill themselves as well. But maybe I was just imagining that.
 
hÊšll

hÊšll

not real.
Jun 18, 2021
467
Fair enough. It read to me like an argument for why the feelings of others shouldn't matter when considering your own suicide because they can always just kill themselves as well. But maybe I was just imagining that.
i'm not saying their feelings don't matter because ctb is an option.
i'm sorry if it seemed like that.
killing yourself is the hardest thing. just saying if your suicide somehow helps them see that life is full of pain and not worth it , if it gives them a push to do it then if they kill themselves, that's a good thing for them because it would save them from lots of suffering
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
48,652
For the most part, life is just pain and suffering. My suicide will prevent decades of this. In my opinion, it is better to never exist at all as there is no limit as to how bad life can get, this life holds unlimited potential for suffering. This is why I see a right to die as important.
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Angelic
Mar 21, 2019
4,233
The only people who will follow are those that are already on that path. You would only be the trigger right now. Something else could be the trigger another time.
 
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suisuiforum

Experienced
Jul 4, 2021
242
I don't believe that I should be guilt-tripped into staying alive for the sake of other people who will supposedly "miss me" but call me selfish for wanting to escape the pain of life. That's no way to live.

Whatever they do with the news of my suicide is their choice.
 
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Bullit

Bullit

Mage
May 6, 2021
504
I like when I hear about suicides,makes me feel like its not so bad,maybe I could do it!
 
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WaaaghEnjoyer

WaaaghEnjoyer

destroy the status quo
Aug 15, 2021
69
i would still say that in the current state of society and it's opinions on suicide, it usually causes more suffering than it removes. some people might've had perfectly fine lives before the death of someone they knew/cared about. that certainly adds more suffering to the equation. but maybe it's a zero sum thing, no idea

however, suicide only matters for those that are alive while they are still alive.
we all die anyway and that's a given. what's a lifetime next to an eternity of the void?
from the perspective of the dead person, everyone else has already died.
 
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one.way.out

one.way.out

Student
Jul 9, 2021
135
Me too. Most of my family has issues as well. If it pushed some of them to kill themselves, than... yeah. Harm reduction.
 
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