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I have been told that I have no excuse to kill my self as every problem is curable
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It depends on the problem. Your father is generalizing with that statement to be honest. It also depends on the person, their personality type, and how they handle/react to problems day in and day out. There are so many variables at play. If that motto were true, then every single person on this planet would not have a problem at all.
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I think the statement itself is bullshit. It is bullshit because it is sweeping generalization that literally ALL problems are resolvable which most of us (especially those grounded in objective reality) know is simply NOT true. There are problems that just can't be solved and then there are problems that could be solved but we lack the means to or otherwise the cost outweighs the benefits. Sometimes, there is no solution and death can be the better option than just continuous suffering for decades to come.
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I think that actually despite the implied insensitive delivery, he is right.
Just not all problems can be solved by all people. In fact some problems cannot be solved by some people.
'We' might find a cure for cancer. For 'me' finding a cure for cancer is beyond my capability, knowledge and invention.
Shame, if 'we (as in humanity)' worked together a little more with less greed, life would be nicer for everyone.
Peace friends
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Who ever said this to you is so up there own arse it stinks, no punn intended, were all different, if you or I want to end it then so be it, we have the right to say and choose when to die, do gooders trying to preserve a life even when we are in pain, terrible. Do what you want when you want.
One thing I'd like to add to that is lattice degeneration. If there's an affordable way to prevent my retina eventually detaching, I'd like that. There are going to be a million other issues left, but that's the one that scares me the most.
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Yet people are afraid to look it at a different point of view such as suicide is a permanent solution to a permanent problem it all depends on how you look at the problems and the solutions mind you yes there are better solutions than suicide due to how final it is and how it impacts those around you.
The problem is, what to do on this earth that has any meaning besides surviving and putting up with getting old, possibly poor, and decrepit. Before they have kids, parents should think about what they will tell their kids if the kids ask what to do on an earth that, as a result of human intervention, is to a large extent vile and disgusting.
It's a blame-the-victim argument. It follows this line of thinking: person A can solve problem B therefore any suffering caused by problem A is intentionally afflicted and deserves no sympathy.
Yet it's a universally accepted rule in society that we're morally obligated to go to relatively extreme lengths to prevent others from harming themselves regardless of intention.
EX: a child running in front of a moving car may be snatched or tackled by a stranger to avoid harm. Whereas this argument essentially says that child got what was coming to him, no observers are liable for inaction, and he shouldn't have ran in front of the car.
there are some problems that cant be solved like diseases that already got mentioned here. but i sometimes feel that people here a bit dramatic regarding other, personal problems that dont really seem so horrible from an outside perspective
there are some problems that cant be solved like diseases that already got mentioned here. but i sometimes feel that people here a bit dramatic regarding other, personal problems that dont really seem so horrible from an outside perspective
It might be truth but gosh it isn't that easy. It's like when someone tells to another "don't be sad" dude If I could I wouldn't be like this. Not everything is for everyone.
there are some problems that cant be solved like diseases that already got mentioned here. but i sometimes feel that people here a bit dramatic regarding other, personal problems that dont really seem so horrible from an outside perspective
But it doesn't matter what the personal problem might look like to an out side perspective , they are not the ones feeling the person with the inside perspective's pain
It is depending on each person's emotional and mental wiring
I agree that breaking up with a girl for example shouldn't be that bad and a lot of young people do go over the top about it . But what if they are not emotionally strong enough to cope with some thing . It is a grey world , not black and white
But my mental issues are not any thing like just breaking up with a girl or can't get a job , mine is mental evil torture going through my mind every day and ultra nasty O C D
That's just the problem: as an outsider you don't have intimate knowledge of the problem and therefore can't judge it accurately. Some people faint at a pinprick while some can endure huge amounts of pain without even blinking. Does that mean that the first individual is faking it or is weak? Imo no: he/she just has a more sensitive nature and a lower treshold for pain.
I do think it's a good idea to seek outside counsel so to speak (insofar as it doesnt endanger one's freedom of course) but ultimately it's the individual that has to live his or her life so they alone can determine whether it's worth the effort or not.
That's just the problem: as an outsider you don't have intimate knowledge of the problem and therefore can't judge it accurately. Some people faint at a pinprick while some can endure huge amounts of pain without even blinking. Does that mean that the first individual is faking it or is weak? Imo no: he/she just has a more sensitive nature and a lower treshold for pain.
I do think it's a good idea to seek outside counsel so to speak (insofar as it doesnt endanger one's freedom of course) but ultimately it's the individual that has to live his or her life so they alone can determine whether it's worth the effort or not.
yes how you perceive a problem is always subjective
some people are more fragile, sensitive to problems then others.
some people go through the roughest shit and still move on and some people get suicidal or kill themself over bad grades in school or a teenage break up.
however even though its subjective how we perceive a problem it doesnt mean that there is absolutely no objectivity when it comes to problems.
some problems are temporary, some problems will last forever, some problems will impact life quality more then others. and you can say that without being personal affected by it.
eg bad notes might enough reason for some south korean students to kill themself but its hardly as bad like some incurable auto immun disease that gives you pain everyday and with no realistic hope of improvement. you can say that without neither being a south korean student nor having a painful auto immun disease
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