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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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Both "just make the best of it" and "life is what you make of it" are simplistic, dismissive statements that ignore the realities of suffering, external circumstances, and the inherent unfairness of existence. Here's why they're flawed:


Not everything in life is within personal control. You don't get to choose:

Where you're born
Your genetics (mental health, intelligence, physical health)
Whether you grow up in poverty or wealth
The people who raise you (abusive parents vs. loving parents)
The economic or political system you're stuck in

Someone born into extreme suffering—whether due to illness, war, or trauma—can't just "make the best of it" as if effort alone will overcome everything. Saying "life is what you make of it" suggests that people who suffer just aren't trying hard enough, which is blatantly false.

These statements imply that if you're miserable, it's your fault for not "making the best of it." In reality, many problems aren't fixable by sheer willpower. Telling a person struggling with depression, chronic pain, or extreme poverty that they just need to "make life better" is cruel and ignorant.

A starving person can't just "make the best of hunger."
A disabled person can't just "make the best of physical suffering."
A trauma survivor can't just "turn their pain into something positive" like flipping a switch.

These phrases act as cop-outs to avoid addressing real suffering.

For some, no amount of effort will make life worth living. If someone is in constant pain, physically or mentally, telling them to "make the best of it" assumes that staying alive is always the better option. But if life is more suffering than joy, why should someone be forced to endure it just because others believe in the "power of attitude"?

Saying "life is what you make of it" implies that success and happiness come purely from effort. But luck plays a massive role:

Some people are born into wealth, which makes life infinitely easier.
Some have supportive families, while others grow up in abusive homes.
Some are naturally gifted with intelligence, health, or talent, while others struggle just to function.

Effort matters, but it's not the ultimate deciding factor in how life turns out. The world isn't a level playing field.

These phrases are often used to silence people who are suffering. Instead of acknowledging that life is hard, unfair, and often painful, these statements tell people to stop complaining and accept it. They don't provide solutions; they just pressure people to pretend everything is fine.

Both of these statements are simplistic, dismissive, and ignorant of reality. They assume that life is fair, that effort alone determines outcomes, and that suffering is just a mindset issue rather than a real, unavoidable condition. They're used to deflect responsibility from those who create suffering (e.g., parents, society) and place the blame on the individual instead.

Life isn't just what you make of it—life is largely what is forced upon you.
 
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DivineSpark

DivineSpark

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Feb 9, 2025
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I agree, it is much up to luck.
 
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Jadeith

Specialist
Jan 14, 2025
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Just as L'absent nicely put it about "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem." here:

Mental health related slogans are basically worth shit. Might work for selected few but in most cases they do nothing or even deepen the problem by increasing the frustration caused by "if it's so simple why can't i do it anyway?".
 
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davidtorez

davidtorez

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Mar 8, 2024
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For what it's worth you may enjoy reading robert sapolskys work on this subject. I read his book "Determined" last year and it's very enlightening.

 
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divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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toxic positivity helps nobody
 
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dontwakemeup

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Nov 11, 2024
668
I think the natural response is for someone to say something positive to you. If you tell a friend you're suicidal, they certainly won't say, "Let's fly to Mexico tomorrow and find you some Nembutal!" Death makes people uncomfortable, and suicide will never be a conversation anyone will hold with you. They say these dumb and stupid saying as a quick way to exit the conversation and feel good about themselves in thinking their magical slogan will solve all of your problems in 1 sentence! They think that even years of therapy and medication is nothing in comparison to their quick 1 liner sentence that means absolutely nothing to you! People are full of themselves, their stupidity is almost hilarious!
 
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divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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I think the natural response is for someone to say something positive to you. If you tell a friend you're suicidal, they certainly won't say, "Let's fly to Mexico tomorrow and find you some Nembutal!" Death makes people uncomfortable, and suicide will never be a conversation anyone will hold with you. They say these dumb and stupid saying as a quick way to exit the conversation and feel good about themselves in thinking their magical slogan will solve all of your problems in 1 sentence! They think that even years of therapy and medication is nothing in comparison to their quick 1 liner sentence that means absolutely nothing to you! People are full of themselves, their stupidity is almost hilarious!
I would love a friend who would say "Lets fly to Mexico and find you some Nembutal" !!
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
11,513
All of these sayings, while probably unrealistic, try to motivate the person to make changes in their life. Obviously for some, that's going to be much more difficult than others. However- the one I would agree with is:

'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' (Rita Mae Brown.)

So, in as far as life requiring a great deal of effort as well as good fortune- I think those sayings have some truth. Whether some of us are truly incapable of making that effort though, I guess is debatable.

That would be an interesting study I suppose. Would anyone other than Stephen Hawking have been able to succeed despite his massive disabilities? What was it about his brain that made him succeed in spite of all his hardships? I'm not convinced I would have done so well with his disabilities, even if I had had his intellect.
 
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Ligottian

Paragon
Dec 19, 2021
963
I hate this one. "It is what it is."
 
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SilentSadness

SilentSadness

Dead inside
Feb 28, 2023
1,360
I agree, so often people experience hopeless situations but their pro life instincts lead them to claim they can always change it with enough willpower and determination. But of course the only effect is blaming the victims for not having enough willpower and determination, when in reality it makes no difference.
 
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22yearsbroken

22yearsbroken

Lost in the dark... with no sign of light
Feb 15, 2025
240
I was told once by my dad (we dont speak anymore) to " pull yourself together" and " sorry you ill but, its your own fault" ..
 
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Ligottian

Paragon
Dec 19, 2021
963
Forgot this one. "Tough times never last. Tough people do."
 

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