In my opinion it's a really subjective thing.
Having a hard life doesn't always mean someone wants to die, and having comfort doesn't mean someone feels fulfilled.
And vice versa.
Yes, when you're in survival mode, you're focused on staying alive, I know that from my own experience.
And still - I don't want to live.
On the other hand, once your basic needs are met, the lack of purpose or deeper emotional pain can hit hard. Mental suffering isn't always about how hard life is objectively.
It's about how heavy it feels inside.
It can happen to anyone, no matter their situation.
There is no reason to feel guilty. Though I understand your emotions on this matter.
Yes, there is also the problem that suicides are not reported and are hidden by the media. I remember the scene from 13 Reasons Why that was deleted. They want to force us to believe that this doesn't happen, that no one kills themselves. Much of this common sense was what motivated my post, but if you research it well, you will find that millions of people in difficult situations kill themselves. There are suicides in Gaza, there are always suicide in wars, and there were suicides in concentration camps. In short, it is more common than it seems, but the media hides it from us.
Just because someone drowns in 3 feet of water vs 30 feet doesn't change the fact they're drowning. Everybody's hell is different what might affect someone really strongly may have no affect on me and vice versa something that may destroy me might not even make someone else flinch.
Of course! There are racist black people, misogynistic women, and so on, just because they accept being oppressed doesn't mean everyone else has to. That logic is dumb, the more I think about it, the more I realize what nonsense I was writing.
I agree 100%. You don't have to be crazy to kill yourself. In fact i feel like people have lots of legit reason for doing it. I've stated here many times that we shouldn't pathologize our feelings or sadness.
I think it's perfectly normal to be disturbed by the world.
Yes! I have a friend who has tried everything, medication, shock therapy, ketamine, and nothing worked. I went through the same process, tried medication, tried psychologists and psychiatrists, tried religion, and nothing solved my anguish. We just don't fit in, unfortunately society offers no other way out but suicide, so that's what we have.
I could be very wrong, these are just my thoughts.
I think when you are poor and hungry and maybe you are cold because you have nowhere to go, survival instincts kick in like hell. And basically you start to fight for your life, because "it can't get any worse than this". For example hunger is a really powerful thing, i've experienced it once and suddenly I found myself in the woods, looking for rosehips or some kind of berries. My first thought was "I NEED TO EAT", and not suicide. yeah it's weird, we are so wired to survive and everything.
but i assume after a while everyone gets tired of this and suddely they think about suicide too. man this existence is awful no matter what :(
Perhaps, but as I said, suicides are hidden from us; many people commit suicide every day and no one knows about it. Living in Brazil, I'm sure there are people who commit suicide in the favelas, and the government doesn't even count them because it's unaware that they've happened. So, this idea that people who are suffering or poor don't kill themselves is more of a myth than a fact. Sure, there are people who accept the worst conditions and still want to survive, but, look, by my own logic, there are people in the best conditions who don't want to. Why are people who are poor and want to live right and those who have the best conditions and don't want to live wrong? It doesn't make sense; it's just the pro-life bias that has been implanted in my head speaking louder. And, in the same way, there are people who like to eat shit and defend their own oppression. Does the existence of these people justify everyone else accepting the same condition? It makes no sense at all.
It does the exact opposite for me. It pisses me off that I'm not the one lucky enough to be terminal.. it may sound unreasonable but they want to live and are dying and I want to be dead but keep waking the fuck up everyday! I'd give anything to switch places with them! It sounds a whole hell of a lot easier dying from a terminal illness than to have the challenge of killing one self. Those like me that have truly wanted to be dead for years but are still here will understand this. It's just another one of the many reasons I quit believing in the existence of a god.. At least a loving one. But that's another subject for another post for another day!
The existence of God is a myth, rest assured. Life has no meaning, we are animals that have developed symbolic thinking and that's it, we are an accident of nature and will soon be extinct.
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