How to get over fear of SN?

[doomerguy88]

So I have been going through a hard time lately and feel like I am suffering everyday with feeling overwhelmed due to several things going on in life. I bought SN around a month a half ago and have been wanting to take it , but for some reason I am really scared of the negative effects of taking it while waiting to go unconscious. If I knew it would be quick and painless that would be one thing. It may technically be painless in the traditional sense, that doesn't mean it won't be really uncomfortable and you won't really know how it will be for you until you do it. Also I know the general time to unconscious is supposed to be 12 mins I know there are reports of it taking longer closer to 30 mins. I understand there are others meds you are supposed to take to help with that stuff but for me they are hard to get and not always nessecary for the SN to work.

I would assume that is something that benzos could help with since they help with anxiety but since they are hard for me to get I am wondering if there is anything else ai could try that might help me get over that fear. I'm definitely not afraid of dying l, just the effects I would feel of the SN before I loose unconsciousness.

Thanks

 

[dirkw83]

Where did you hear 30 minutes? It's interesting to me that people always come up with the worst case scenarios. For instance, if there are reports of 30 minutes and typical time is 12 minutes, there should be cases with for example eight minutes. But somehow you guys always go right for the absolute worst case scenario. "Oh there was this guy one time who took two hours, I don't want it to last two hours I'm scared". I would be scared too if I just assumed everything was gonna go as badly as possible.

 

[jakethesnake]

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I thought about doing it today. When I look at it I have no fear of it. I feel ready. But I'm going to put it off for maybe another 6 months.

 

[doomerguy88]

Where did you hear 30 minutes? It's interesting to me that people always come up with the worst case scenarios. For instance, if there are reports of 30 minutes and typical time is 12 minutes, there should be cases with for example eight minutes. But somehow you guys always go right for the absolute worst case scenario. "Oh there was this guy one time who took two hours, I don't want it to last two hours I'm scared". I would be scared too if I just assumed everything was gonna go as badly as possible.

Because it doesn't really help. I mean sure yeah I understand that some people may go unconscious quicker than the average 12 mins but there's really no way to know how long it will take until you do it. So there is still the fear that it will take longer for me and hat the symptoms will be on the worse end. I think Im also worried about it tasti g too chemically and throwing up because I am sensitive to that type of stuff.

Where did you hear 30 minutes? It's interesting to me that people always come up with the worst case scenarios. For instance, if there are reports of 30 minutes and typical time is 12 minutes, there should be cases with for example eight minutes. But somehow you guys always go right for the absolute worst case scenario. "Oh there was this guy one time who took two hours, I don't want it to last two hours I'm scared". I would be scared too if I just assumed everything was gonna go as badly as possible.

Because it doesn't really help. I mean sure yeah I understand that some people may go unconscious quicker than the average 12 mins but there's really no way to know how long it will take until you do it. So there is still the fear that it will take longer for me and hat the symptoms will be on the worse end. I think Im also worried about it tasti g too chemically and throwing up because I am sensitive to that type of stuff.

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I thought about doing it today. When I look at it I have no fear of it. I feel ready. But I'm going to put it off for maybe another 6 months.

Thanks I have read that post and am aware of of the various symptoms I just don't know how strong they will be for me. Line I have had headaches before, it so e people have said the headaches can be severe, or some people experience mild nausea while others may experience strong nausea. And since I don't have the recommended meds to help with that stuff I feel like so would suffer more. Anyways I'm glad you don't fear it. And so hope when the times comes for you that it will be peaceful.

 

[jakethesnake]

Because it doesn't really help. I mean sure yeah I understand that some people may go unconscious quicker than the average 12 mins but there's really no way to know how long it will take until you do it. So there is still the fear that it will take longer for me and hat the symptoms will be on the worse end. I think Im also worried about it tasti g too chemically and throwing up because I am sensitive to that type of stuff.

Because it doesn't really help. I mean sure yeah I understand that some people may go unconscious quicker than the average 12 mins but there's really no way to know how long it will take until you do it. So there is still the fear that it will take longer for me and hat the symptoms will be on the worse end. I think Im also worried about it tasti g too chemically and throwing up because I am sensitive to that type of stuff.

Thanks I have read that post and am aware of of the various symptoms I just don't know how strong they will be for me. Line I have had headaches before, it so e people have said the headaches can be severe, or some people experience mild nausea while others may experience strong nausea. And since I don't have the recommended meds to help with that stuff I feel like so would suffer more. Anyways I'm glad you don't fear it. And so hope when the times comes for you that it will be peaceful.

The method is low suffering. It also says that in this guide without the added meds.

 

[doomerguy88]

The method is low suffering. It also says that in this guide without the added meds.

Thanks I know people say it's low suffering but sometimes they say it's low suffering compared to the other methods and everybody definition of suffering is different. I know you're trying to help and I appreciate it's just hard not to be scared. I guess I'm also scared of somehow surviving the attempt and ending up in the hospital. I have a lot of sensitivity issues regarding medical settings so the thought of ending up in the hospital also terrified me.

 

[jakethesnake]

Thanks I know people say it's low suffering but sometimes they say it's low suffering compared to the other methods and everybody definition of suffering is different. I know you're trying to help and I appreciate it's just hard not to be scared. I guess I'm also scared of somehow surviving the attempt and ending up in the hospital. I have a lot of sensitivity issues regarding medical settings so the thought of ending up in the hospital also terrified me.

Ya totally understandable.

 

[madwoman]

No advice but just want to say I am scared too about all of the same things and also for my peace of mind, I have to think of the worse case scenario & truly hope when I'm ready, it won't fail bc I won't know how to come back from that.

 

[leoneliona]

I have the same worries. Honestly, benzos are the best bet for lowered suffering. There's definitely "mind over matter" things you can do like just powering through it (detachment or disassociation), but honestly, as someone prescribed them benzos are amazing for something like this. Unfortunately your brain does operate with chemicals, so that'll be what affects it the strongest without training your brain to ignore SI repeatedly. For me at least, they quiet the anxiety down in my head so I can make an informed decision without anxiety in the way.

 

[doomerguy88]

I have the same worries. Honestly, benzos are the best bet for lowered suffering. There's definitely "mind over matter" things you can do like just powering through it (detachment or disassociation), but honestly, as someone prescribed them benzos are amazing for something like this. Unfortunately your brain does operate with chemicals, so that'll be what affects it the strongest without training your brain to ignore SI repeatedly. For me at least, they quiet the anxiety down in my head so I can make an informed decision without anxiety in the way.

Thanks for the advice. So obviously benzos help with anxiety, but does that mean it would help you to ignore the fact that you feel discomfort after taking the SN? I thought I saw somewhere else that someone mentioned one anti anxiety med they took and they mentioned that when they were on it they could have there eyeball pop out of the socket and they wouldn't care, but I don't remember if that was a benzo or not.

 

[leoneliona]

Thanks for the advice. So obviously benzos help with anxiety, but does that mean it would help you to ignore the fact that you feel discomfort after taking the SN? I thought I saw somewhere else that someone mentioned one anti anxiety med they took and they mentioned that when they were on it they could have there eyeball pop out of the socket and they wouldn't care, but I don't remember if that was a benzo or not.

Lol, yeah it will definitely help. When I take mine the craziest shit will happen and I'm able to just shrug it off and keep moving with no second thought if I want to.
I can definitely see there still being anxiety there but it's the difference between anxiety vs. panic attack. Dying already contributes towards a "sense of impending doom" in some cases, and with panic attacks I feel this symptom every time it happens. As soon as I take my meds, within 10 minutes that sensation goes away.

 

[doomerguy88]

Lol, yeah it will definitely help. When I take mine the craziest shit will happen and I'm able to just shrug it off and keep moving with no second thought if I want to.
I can definitely see there still being anxiety there but it's the difference between anxiety vs. panic attack. Dying already contributes towards a "sense of impending doom" in some cases, and with panic attacks I feel this symptom every time it happens. As soon as I take my meds, within 10 minutes that sensation goes away.

Thanks if only I could get my hands on some.

 

[leoneliona]

Thanks if only I could get my hands on some.

Are you in the US? It's not too hard to get a prescription for it if you go to your doctor with the symptoms you've described in your original post, and a fib that you have panic attacks that keep you from functioning daily because of it.

 

[doomerguy88]

Are you in the US? It's not too hard to get a prescription for it if you go to your doctor with the symptoms you've described in your original post, and a fib that you have panic attacks that keep you from functioning daily because of it.

Yeah I'm in the US and I know it would be easy to get it prescribed. It's just hard for me to get out due to the way I've been feeling plus I don't have a car so getting to the doctor and the pharmacy would be hard. Plus I don't have a lot of money so depending on the cost of the meds it wouldn't be feasible. Even if I could get them from somewhere online I only have cash so wouldn't be able to pay for them online.

 

[leoneliona]

Yeah I'm in the US and I know it would be easy to get it prescribed. It's just hard for me to get out due to the way I've been feeling plus I don't have a car so getting to the doctor and the pharmacy would be hard. Plus I don't have a lot of money so depending on the cost of the meds it wouldn't be feasible. Even if I could get them from somewhere online I only have cash so wouldn't be able to pay for them online.

Ah yeah, that's fair. Some clinics have taxi vouchers/ways to help you access services without a car if you call- and my script costs me $5 for a months worth and I pay in cash at the pharmacy. Neighborhood clinics are usually very understanding of these limitations and will work with you to provide resources if at all possible.

 

[murdoc23]

Apologies if this question has been answered before but is Meto really required when taking SN?

I have access to benzos (Xanax and Clonopin)

I recall people saying have several cups ready in case you vomit. I think it was something like 25g of SN per 50 mL of water?

 

[doomerguy88]

Apologies if this question has been answered before but is Meto really required when taking SN?

I have access to benzos (Xanax and Clonopin)

I recall people saying have several cups ready in case you vomit. I think it was something like 25g of SN per 50 mL of water?

It's not required as you can still vomit even if you take meteo it just has a better chance of working if you use it.

 

[murdoc23]

It's not required as you can still vomit even if you take meteo it just has a better chance of working if you use it.

Ok thanks, good to know!

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Apologies if this question has been answered before but is Meto really required when taking SN?

I have access to benzos (Xanax and Clonopin)

I recall people saying have several cups ready in case you vomit. I think it was something like 25g of SN per 50 mL of water?

Yeah, the amount depends on your weight tho.

 

[murdoc23]

Yeah, the amount depends on your weight tho.

I weigh around 165 pounds, would 25mg of SN mixed with water be enough?

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I understand how you feel. Nitrogen has been my plan A & SN my plan B, but it seems like dissolving the SN & downing it would be an easier thing to get myself to do (do you know what I mean?). But I worry about what I'll be facing once I've taken it, I worry I'll regret I didn't go with plan A. So it's a really hard thing to psych yourself up to do, I know. And same about benzos, I cannot picture going into a doctor's office for anything at this point, even though I've taken them a few times & know how much they would help.