How many of you are wanting to get n but it's too hard and are going with sn instead

[lana]

For me personally it's hard for me to understand btc stuff and how to make it work, but I am still trying by looking and researching but still having a hard time so sn just seems easier, I was wondering if anyone else is and for other reasons

 

[healthrecovery]

You can use western union or moneygram

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

Me. I tried to get N from AV and got scammed so I got SN instead.

 

[Account unknown]

For me personally it's hard for me to understand btc stuff and how to make it work, but I am still trying by looking and researching but still having a hard time so sn just seems easier, I was wondering if anyone else is and for other reasons

I really want N but I'm not sure it's worth the time, money and stress trying to source it and then also hope you don't get scammed or lose the package for whatever reason.

Not a fan of SN so won't be using that one but I'll probably end up using a method besides N just because it's too much hassle to obtain. I'm considering quite a few methods but I think everyone's gold standard is N.

 

[redwaymilk]

To me, SN is not worth it IF you can obtain N.

Barbiturates like N are neuroprotective. It's all about in the worst case scenario (if you are firm on CTB) being rescued. While you may have rhabdomyolysis (muscle breakdown --> painful muscle) from pressure injuries, deconditioning (muscle loss --> weakness) from being intubated on a ventilator, potentially decubitus (back) ulcers or post ICU syndrome, your mind is way better protected.

Depending on how far you are out, SN can lead to hypoxic brain injury. For anyone who already has difficulties concentrating or issues w/ short term memory, they will be significantly magnified after being rescued from SN CTB.

N CTB has a quicker onset of action, vs methemoglobinemia CTB from SN takes time to develop. It is essentially a slow strangulation process (your body is getting deprived of oxygen) without the feeling of constriction on your neck or the feeling of your head exploding from compression of your jugular veins.

Finally, there is no antidote for barbiturate reversal (like there is for benzos, and flumazenil is really not that great). Methemoglobinemia has a very effective reversal agent (methylene blue), and clinically, its not difficult to recognize (the blueing of the skin, if someones oxygen levels isnt coming up with supplemental oxygen and normal lung imaging), so its more likely to be caught more quickly.

The downside here barbiturate overdose recovery is much more likely to have an expensive ICU stay (b/c the way you treat it is ICU level supportive care), and if you have dependents OR are on other people's insurance, you are likely to leave them with an expensive bill.

 

[Eddypaddy]

just use bitpanda for bitcoin. its easy as paying over a bank account

 

[lana]

You can use western union or moneygram

Didn't know , might use wu
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To me, SN is not worth it IF you can obtain N.

Barbiturates like N are neuroprotective. It's all about in the worst case scenario (if you are firm on CTB) being rescued. While you may have rhabdomyolysis (muscle breakdown --> painful muscle) from pressure injuries, deconditioning (muscle loss --> weakness) from being intubated on a ventilator, potentially decubitus (back) ulcers or post ICU syndrome, your mind is way better protected.

Depending on how far you are out, SN can lead to hypoxic brain injury. For anyone who already has difficulties concentrating or issues w/ short term memory, they will be significantly magnified after being rescued from SN CTB.

N CTB has a quicker onset of action, vs methemoglobinemia CTB from SN takes time to develop. It is essentially a slow strangulation process (your body is getting deprived of oxygen) without the feeling of constriction on your neck or the feeling of your head exploding from compression of your jugular veins.

Finally, there is no antidote for barbiturate reversal (like there is for benzos, and flumazenil is really not that great). Methemoglobinemia has a very effective reversal agent (methylene blue), and clinically, its not difficult to recognize (the blueing of the skin, if someones oxygen levels isnt coming up with supplemental oxygen and normal lung imaging), so its more likely to be caught more quickly.

The downside here barbiturate overdose recovery is much more likely to have an expensive ICU stay (b/c the way you treat it is ICU level supportive care), and if you have dependents OR are on other people's insurance, you are likely to leave them with an expensive bill.

I read that sn doesn't cause brain damage and that you go unconscious after 15 to 30 min of flu like symptoms

I really want N but I'm not sure it's worth the time, money and stress trying to source it and then also hope you don't get scammed or lose the package for whatever reason.

Not a fan of SN so won't be using that one but I'll probably end up using a method besides N just because it's too much hassle to obtain. I'm considering quite a few methods but I think everyone's gold standard is N.

I felt these exact feelings but there have been alot of evidence that d isn't a scammer so I am trying to figure out the way to get n since reading many members getting their n from him

Me. I tried to get N from AV and got scammed so I got SN instead.

Oh I'm so sorry that happened , Maybe try to give d a shot and if doesn't happen than sn is there for you

 

[sean27]

Me. I tried to get N from AV and got scammed so I got SN instead.

Where did you get SN from?

 

[Death is beautiful]

I can't afford N so I plan to order SN

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

Where did you get SN from?

A jungle website. What I ordered is no longer available though, I don't know why.

 

[liberty_222]

Man I'm hoping to figure out a way to make enough money to buy it. It's most expensive in Asia fml. But i still want to try before i go with sn

 

[sean27]

A jungle website. What I ordered is no longer available though, I don't know why.

could you send me a link?

 

[Interloper]

You can use western union or moneygram

Are there people here who used WU and received the N?

 

[roguetrader]

Are there people here who used WU and received the N?

Yes, it worked for me

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

To me, SN is not worth it IF you can obtain N.

Barbiturates like N are neuroprotective. It's all about in the worst case scenario (if you are firm on CTB) being rescued. While you may have rhabdomyolysis (muscle breakdown --> painful muscle) from pressure injuries, deconditioning (muscle loss --> weakness) from being intubated on a ventilator, potentially decubitus (back) ulcers or post ICU syndrome, your mind is way better protected.

Depending on how far you are out, SN can lead to hypoxic brain injury. For anyone who already has difficulties concentrating or issues w/ short term memory, they will be significantly magnified after being rescued from SN CTB.

N CTB has a quicker onset of action, vs methemoglobinemia CTB from SN takes time to develop. It is essentially a slow strangulation process (your body is getting deprived of oxygen) without the feeling of constriction on your neck or the feeling of your head exploding from compression of your jugular veins.

Finally, there is no antidote for barbiturate reversal (like there is for benzos, and flumazenil is really not that great). Methemoglobinemia has a very effective reversal agent (methylene blue), and clinically, its not difficult to recognize (the blueing of the skin, if someones oxygen levels isnt coming up with supplemental oxygen and normal lung imaging), so its more likely to be caught more quickly.

The downside here barbiturate overdose recovery is much more likely to have an expensive ICU stay (b/c the way you treat it is ICU level supportive care), and if you have dependents OR are on other people's insurance, you are likely to leave them with an expensive bill.

Ok. You scared me into getting N.

 

[BornBrief]

I wanted to but I'm unsure if I could acquire an antiemetic and you definitely want one for N.

 

[redwaymilk]

Didn't know , might use wu
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I read that sn doesn't cause brain damage and that you go unconscious after 15 to 30 min of flu like symptoms

I felt these exact feelings but there have been alot of evidence that d isn't a scammer so I am trying to figure out the way to get n since reading many members getting their n from him

Oh I'm so sorry that happened , Maybe try to give d a shot and if doesn't happen than sn is there for you

Having treated patients who have hypoxic brain injury from drugs that cause hypoxia, its not worth it. SN basically turns the iron in your blood into a trap for oxygen, so it doesnt get released to your tissues. You should knock out around 40-50%. Once around 50-70% of that modified iron form, you are really depriving your body of oxygen, and you can definitely have brain damage.

I personally would consider using it IF I couldn't get my hands N, but otherwise N for sure.

 

[Ta555]

Yeah N doesn't get through customs here so even if I splurged the cash I wouldn't get it and may get into legal trouble. I ordered SN but hasn't arrived yet. If you're not in the US or Europe N is very very hard to get.
Also, SN combination with full suspension hanging imo is the way to go. If one doesn't do the job the other will.

 

[intheweeds]

I bought N back in 2015 and it arrived. Both bottles and the antiemetic.
I would purchase it again, but I'm holding out hope someone with a powdered form of N will show up.

SN is pretty low on my methods of choice and would only use that as a last resort method.

 

[Ta555]

Having treated patients who have hypoxic brain injury from drugs that cause hypoxia, its not worth it. SN basically turns the iron in your blood into a trap for oxygen, so it doesnt get released to your tissues. You should knock out around 40-50%. Once around 50-70% of that modified iron form, you are really depriving your body of oxygen, and you can definitely have brain damage.

I personally would consider using it IF I couldn't get my hands N, but otherwise N for sure.

Well that's true, but every method deprives the brain of oxygen. Hanging, drowning, nitrogen...does that mean that people who can't get N, like me, are just screwed then?

 

[redwaymilk]

Well that's true, but every method deprives the brain of oxygen. Hanging, drowning, nitrogen...does that mean that people who can't get N, like me, are just screwed then?

So true! But no, not screwed.

To me, its about the onset of action / peacefulness before loss of consciousness / difficulty of reversibility / faculties after a failed CTB. I would rather take the method that optimizes the most of all these factors. Doesnt mean i wouldn't use SN, but I would prepare extra with pain relief / anti anxiety measures for SN and make sure i had atleast a day where I was left alone.

Swan dive from extreme height onto solid > drop hanging > asphyxiation > gunshot > drowning to me. My ideal method would be helium, but since that is impossible to find, N seems the way to have the most comfortable CTB.

 

[fushigiri]

My first option was N, but since there are so many scams revolving around it, I went with SN in stead, luckily, I already had my antiemetics on hand.

 

[liberty_222]

I bought N back in 2015 and it arrived. Both bottles and the antiemetic.
I would purchase it again, but I'm holding out hope someone with a powdered form of N will show up.

SN is pretty low on my methods of choice and would only use that as a last resort method.

If you have that much money would you maybe considering sponsoring it for me

 

[Ta555]

So true! But no, not screwed.

To me, its about the onset of action / peacefulness before loss of consciousness / difficulty of reversibility / faculties after a failed CTB. I would rather take the method that optimizes the most of all these factors. Doesnt mean i wouldn't use SN, but I would prepare extra with pain relief / anti anxiety measures for SN and make sure i had atleast a day where I was left alone.

Swan dive from extreme height onto solid > drop hanging > asphyxiation > gunshot > drowning to me. My ideal method would be helium, but since that is impossible to find, N seems the way to have the most comfortable CTB.

My best idea so far is full suspension hang after taking a shot of SN or if SN doesn't arrive exit bag with full suspension.

 

[KayKay]

I have SN & domperidone, but am now writes about taking it after reading this thread.

I would get N and have fund, but I just can't figure it all out.

I'm old and sad. My brain just get itself around what im Meant to do

 

[flyaway]

N would be the best method for me but my main concern is potential legal issues combined with lack of money. I could probably get the necessary amount to buy it in the future, though the risk of it being found and seized still remains. And since I don't want to CTB immediately and my CTB date is not yet determined, I wouldn't want to end up with a criminal record on my name. I'm still considering ordering it to a country where customs are known to be less strict but until I have more information which one it should be and if receiving it this way is possible at all, my main method remains SN.

 

[redwaymilk]

My best idea so far is full suspension hang after taking a shot of SN or if SN doesn't arrive exit bag with full suspension.

Why not just exit bag with nitrogen by itself? I think I would rather do that than either SN or a jump.

 

[Ta555]

Why not just exit bag with nitrogen by itself? I think I would rather do that than either SN or a jump.

I don't trust it by itself. I mean don't trust it to come apart with convulsions or trying to remove the bag while unconscious or the regulator failing half way through or whatever.

 

[rationaltake]

I fear everything will go wrong all the time. So obtaining N is difficult. It was a major step for me to sign up to PayPal to pay for SN. I would prefer N.

 

[Butterflyfree]

So true! But no, not screwed.

To me, its about the onset of action / peacefulness before loss of consciousness / difficulty of reversibility / faculties after a failed CTB. I would rather take the method that optimizes the most of all these factors. Doesnt mean i wouldn't use SN, but I would prepare extra with pain relief / anti anxiety measures for SN and make sure i had atleast a day where I was left alone.

Swan dive from extreme height onto solid > drop hanging > asphyxiation > gunshot > drowning to me. My ideal method would be helium, but since that is impossible to find, N seems the way to have the most comfortable CTB.

@redwaymilk any inert gas would do.

I don't trust it by itself. I mean don't trust it to come apart with convulsions or trying to remove the bag while unconscious or the regulator failing half way through or whatever.

Chances of that happening are very low.