Suicide is only a rational choice if you're truly certain (with very high confidence) that your suffering will never get better, no matter what. Right now, can you honestly say that's the case for you?
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Bitcoin (BTC):Ethereum (ETH):Monero (XMR):It is not that I know for sure things will never get better. It is that I do not have the patience to continue existing until things maybe get better. I have been told things will get better for 25 years. I wish I would have killed myself a long time ago, so that I did not have to live through this bullshit.Last edited:Upvote 1
dewasrite
Too old for this sh!t.
- Dec 30, 2025
- 63
Exactly!! I read somewhere once that a second chance isn't really a second chance if the circumstances haven't changed. So… unless we all suddenly wake up as different people, the likelihood that things will get better seems really low.Upvote 1
Captive_Mind515
King or street sweeper, dance with grim reaper!
- Jul 18, 2023
- 777
Let's flip that logic around.
Can you be certain - with a high degree of confidence - that something horrible won't happen to you at some point in the future if you DON'T suicide? Or that your current suffering won't get considerably worse?
There are over 27,000 recognised diseases for example. 1 in 3 people will get cancer. There's dementia, motor neurone disease, locked in syndrome etc etc the list is practically endless… wars… scarcity of resources due to climate change leading to famines and the general slow disintegration of civilised society.
More and more oppressive right wing governments being voted in around the world, many of whom could even decide to criminalise basic liberties and that might even include suicide itself. (As if we're not already restricted enough in that regard)
There could come a point where you weigh up the pros and cons - or risk reward ratio - and it becomes somewhat irrational NOT to consider getting out early.
I'm just playing devil's advocate here to your point - not telling anyone what to do or how to view their life.Upvote 1
Things have been getting shittier ever since i was born the whole world i mean. For example i used to be passionate about computer hardware i would watch hours of benchmarks and reviews but nowadays they wanna pull the ladder on low end stuff so that poorer people don't have acess to it.Upvote 0
No, I don't agree. It can be a rational choice if you decide that the suffering you're going through outweighs the prospect of things getting better.Upvote 2Yes, I'm fairly certain my situation can not get better. it can only be prolonged. or, I can end it now while it's simply a shadow on me all the time.
In theory, things could be not worse, at best. But I'm at least going to try yet another treatment to see what happens.
Not that that will fix my situation, it would just make living with it "tolerable."Upvote 0
FuneralCry
Just wanting some peace
- Sep 24, 2020
- 49,107
Existing will always and only get more unbearable and torturous and for me existence itself is the true problem, there's just so much evil in existing with existing beings tortured in agony every second with no limit as to how much one can be tortured and all I want is peace from this existence I just always saw as a mistake.
For me non-existence could only ever be better, in this existence so terrible and torturous for me ceasing to exist is the positive solution, all I want is to be free from all future torture and suffering, I just want to never suffer again, it's just so terrible how this existence was even imposed at all and I'll just always see it as an abomination to suffer in this existence. I'll just always prefer the peace of non-existence over the suffering of this torturous dreadful existence that is just waiting to die anyway, I find it so horrible how a human can suffer for so long just to face the terrible extreme agony of old age.Upvote 0I'm basing my prediction on 46 years of experiencing my life. When I have worked really hard to get the things I wanted. Even when I achieved some of them- all that glitters isn't gold. There were new problems to then overcome.
I then had to work hard not to lose what I'd gained. I can't say all these decades of working hard has ultimately been worth it (for me.) What would change that?
My aims were mainly creative. Does this world value creativity more or less? It values it less. I'm getting more aches and pains and finding things physically harder as I grow older. I can take certain steps to help myself but- realistically, bodily things will be on the decline as I age- that's just biology. Most of the people I loved are dead. There's no bringing them back.
Even the very best case scenarios- imagining my perfect life- I'm not even all that bothered by. Where do you go if your dreams are no longer even that appealing? There's only really one place to go...
It's a combination then for me. That to turn things around- yet again- would require more motivation and fight than I have left. That slowing down/ resting is more appealing anyway. And that I think even my best life would suck in certain significant ways.Upvote 0
Chronic depression, no social support, abusive partner, life direction I never wanted, lingering childhood issues reenforced by continued contact with parents.
There is probably more but that is what I can think of off the top of my head.Upvote 0Similar threads
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