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Peter Skellern

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A lethal dose of Heroin for a person without any tolerance is technically 30mg seemingly. A more reliable aim is at least 150mg for heroin (again seemingly).

These doses are almost certainly on the lower end of the spectrum though. The Gold standard for a lethal dose is 500mg of pure heroin when mentioned on the Guides on here.

However, it is unlikely any obtained Heroin will be 100% pure or even close to it. It's probably gonna be 50% cut, or even worse. Apparently, when calculating lethal dose you're unlikely to receive higher than 35-40% diamorphine by weight with EU base/afghan/turkish heroin. Maybe even less.

MANY guides therefore recommend getting at least 1.5g - 2g for your injection, this way you can be sure you're getting the lethal dose even if it's just 30% pure. The pinned guide guy bought 5g+. What do experienced users think re this?

Now even if you cook this 'the more concentrated the better' making it as dark as possible you will find yourself looking at a largish possibly 10 ml syringe - quite a bit larger than what is typically associated with shooting up as we are using 12 times the amount normally used to get high.

To those experienced, is it possible to inject this much Heroin? I intend to go IM (Intramuscular) but does anyone with knowledge of injecting opiates know as to that's just too much stuff to get in? Am I likely to pass out well before getting enough in me? Should I be pushing in as quickly as possible to mitigate that happening?
 
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Peter Skellern

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A little bounce
 
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kitkat41

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Fentanyl is 30 times more potent than heroin, so you wouldn't need as high a dose.
 
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heyismeman

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Fentanyl is 30 times more potent than heroin, so you wouldn't need as high a dose.
yea I was saying using heroine seems like the biggest mistake, just do as much fent as you can in a syringe and IM with 30x what's needed to kill you
 
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kitkat41

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I was reading on the fentanyl thread that you need approx 10 x 100ug patches for a lethal dose. But Im thinking you'd have to do it with another person as you might pass out before you get all the patches on??? So I guess there are pros and cons for heroin and fetanyl
 
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Trying to get fent is riskier. They are both risky, but purchase of pure fent? They really try to go after that because many dealers use it to cut drugs, leading to ODs.

If someone wants to ctb without risking a lengthy term in prison, seems less risky to avoid fent.

Richard, I don't know the answer to this but hope your suffering reduces. <3 for u
 
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I don't have specific numbers for you but when I researched this the idea was to induce respiratory depression & the best chance was if you combined the strong opiate with other depressants, benzos, alcohol, etc.

You can source very pure H on DW depending on the country you're in. You just have to combine them in such a way that you take a lethal dose before passing out, If you have experience using them recreationally then you will have a sense for it.

H on it's own without combinations has a low, low success rate.
 
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Peter Skellern

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I don't have specific numbers for you but when I researched this the idea was to induce respiratory depression & the best chance was if you combined the strong opiate with other depressants, benzos, alcohol, etc.

You can source very pure H on DW depending on the country you're in. You just have to combine them in such a way that you take a lethal dose before passing out, If you have experience using them recreationally then you will have a sense for it.

H on it's own without combinations has a low, low success rate.
Yes I know.
 
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Kim

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I was reading on the fentanyl thread that you need approx 10 x 100ug patches for a lethal dose. But Im thinking you'd have to do it with another person as you might pass out before you get all the patches on??? So I guess there are pros and cons for heroin and fetanyl
Hey KitKat,
It's no Problem to do this Methode alone. When you use the Patches on skin, you have enough time to put all Patches on. (Fentanyl needs +/- 20 Min. From skin to blood).
When you prefer a faster way: injection.
 
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thatisitguy

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The irony isn't lost on me when posters caution suicidal people that their CTB method may kill them.
 
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Wanted to add the thread below to add information:

 

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