help, i fear death

[nothingbutyou]

I'm afraid that reincarnation might be real, and that my consciousness could end up in the body of an insect or an animal. I'd rather believe in the concept of Heaven than in the nightmare of reincarnation. There may also be unimaginably horrific possibilities waiting for us after death, and it's possible that this world which we thought was so miserable is actually far more merciful than whatever comes after death
If your soul were reincarnated as an insect, you'd likely be eaten by stronger insects and forced to perform exhausting work within your colony. If you were reincarnated as a cow, a pig, or even a blue whale, humans might kill you or, if you were female, force you to reproduce throughout your life. Animal deaths are far more painful than human deaths. At least as a human, before you die, you may receive palliative care and pass away with morphine

 

[nettspend]

I have these fears of reincarnation too. We've already emerged from non-existence once, so why are some people so sure that won't happen again after death?

What scares me the most is the concept of eternal return, where you are continously reincarnated as yourself (your current life) over and over again, for eternity. Each life plays out exactly the same, and there's no way out. When you die, you just restart as a baby, and go on until you kill yourself again in the exact same way.

It is really odd to me that people think you're dead forever once you die, as we have all already been dead before birth, and then have been given life.

I've attempted multiple times, but now that i've developed a fool-proof method I'm a bit on the edge about it. My current life is a nightmare, as every day is the same, with no way out, and I just wake up every morning in disappointment that I'm still here. I just feel immense dread all the time. I know my life is doomed. But I'd rather this than have to relive all traumatic events in my life.

It's almost like suicide is too good to be true. You're telling me that I can escape all the dread, suffering, worrying, loneliness etc by just.. killing myself? And I'll be at peace forever? I'm not convinced that it would be this easy to escape the curse of consciousness. There has to be a catch.

 

[google]

Same, the concept of reincarnation is the only thing keeping me alive right now. What really terrifies me is the possibility of being reincarnated into even worse and more precarious circumstances than those I already endure.

It is really odd to me that people think you're dead forever once you die, as we have all already been dead before birth, and then have been given life.

Yesss this is exactly how I think as well. We know almost nothing about consciousness and what lies beyond this life. To me, it has always seemed naive to believe that suicide offers a clean escape from suffering, especially when the urge to take your own life arises so naturally and powerfully. Almost as if some hidden force wants it to happen.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

It's almost like suicide is too good to be true. You're telling me that I can escape all the dread, suffering, worrying, loneliness etc by just.. killing myself? And I'll be at peace forever? I'm not convinced that it would be this easy to escape the curse of consciousness. There has to be a catch.

I hope this is the only "too good to be true" thing that is really true.

 

[Nolongerlive]

What's wrong with reborn as insects or animals? At least you dont have so much agony in this life right?

No one knows what happen after life.

You are just fearing the unknown.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

Same, the concept of reincarnation is the only thing keeping me alive right now. What really terrifies me is the possibility of being reincarnated into even worse and more precarious circumstances than those I already endure.

Yesss this is exactly how I think as well. We know almost nothing about consciousness and what lies beyond this life. To me, it has always seemed naive to believe that suicide offers a clean escape from suffering, especially when the urge to take your own life arises so naturally and powerfully. Almost as if some hidden force wants it to happen.

But yet there is an even stronger force(survival instinct)where most people aren't able to go through with it, as much as they may want to.

 

[Le temps perdu]

It's also possible that after death, there won't be any frightening reincarnation or terrifying afterlife. For example, people who have experienced general anesthesia may have entered a state that resembles unconsciousness close to death — there is no sense of time passing, no dreams, and no supernatural experiences. The only difference is whether they wake up afterward. I don't know if this makes you feel any better.

 

[nettspend]

It's also possible that after death, there won't be any frightening reincarnation or terrifying afterlife. For example, people who have experienced general anesthesia may have entered a state that resembles unconsciousness close to death — there is no sense of time passing, no dreams, and no supernatural experiences. The only difference is whether they wake up afterward. I don't know if this makes you feel any better.

How do you know? For all we know people may have subjective experiences while under anesthesia, even if they don't remember them.

 

[un.exist]

It's also possible that after death, there won't be any frightening reincarnation or terrifying afterlife. For example, people who have experienced general anesthesia may have entered a state that resembles unconsciousness close to death — there is no sense of time passing, no dreams, and no supernatural experiences. The only difference is whether they wake up afterward. I don't know if this makes you feel any better.

Yes, but general anaesthesia is not death. It's not even close to death. It's a chemically induced state, not the cessation of consciousness itself.

No one knows what happens after death. Absolutely no one, everyone is just speculating, no matter how sure they sound. Whether there is reincarnation, nothingness, heaven/hell, you will never know until you die. Then, when you know, you can't tell the rest of us living folk. It is just the way it is.

 

[Deepdense]

well most other animals lack the brain capacity to have conscious thoughts the way humans are.

 

[CatGoMeyow]

Um, yeah. That the Universe can, will and does make you into whatever It wants you to be. It's a deep, deep paranoid suspicion and a big reason that's stopped me from blowing out my brains. I am simply not convinced my physical death has anything to do with my suffering or situation. I believe it is possible or even likely that actions that harm others sets us up for unimaginable future reincarnation torture. Suiciding out is a huge, unimaginable wound to leave on people, even if that person feels forgotten. I really wish I could have noped out decades ago.

 

[Le temps perdu]

How do you know? For all we know people may have subjective experiences while under anesthesia, even if they don't remember them.

Yes, but general anaesthesia is not death. It's not even close to death. It's a chemically induced state, not the cessation of consciousness itself.

No one knows what happens after death. Absolutely no one, everyone is just speculating, no matter how sure they sound. Whether there is reincarnation, nothingness, heaven/hell, you will never know until you die. Then, when you know, you can't tell the rest of us living folk. It is just the way it is.

Thanks for your replies, what you're saying all makes sense.
I know that general anesthesia isn't the same as death. personally I think that if general anesthesia reaches a very deep level…(for example, to the point where a person can no longer breathe on their own, and all life support were withdrawn) the person would likely die while remaining unconscious. that makes me wonder whether the unconscious state might simply continue. I know none of us can know for sure, so I'm just sharing one possibility that I wonder about haha.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

This has nothing to do with suicide as we all will die sooner or later. Unless you believe that suicide will spoil your karma and you will be punished for this sin in hell.
How can I live my life if I am so much in fear from what comes after death?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I have these fears of reincarnation too. We've already emerged from non-existence once, so why are some people so sure that won't happen again after death?

What scares me the most is the concept of eternal return, where you are continously reincarnated as yourself (your current life) over and over again, for eternity. Each life plays out exactly the same, and there's no way out. When you die, you just restart as a baby, and go on until you kill yourself again in the exact same way.

It is really odd to me that people think you're dead forever once you die, as we have all already been dead before birth, and then have been given life.

I've attempted multiple times, but now that i've developed a fool-proof method I'm a bit on the edge about it. My current life is a nightmare, as every day is the same, with no way out, and I just wake up every morning in disappointment that I'm still here. I just feel immense dread all the time. I know my life is doomed. But I'd rather this than have to relive all traumatic events in my life.

It's almost like suicide is too good to be true. You're telling me that I can escape all the dread, suffering, worrying, loneliness etc by just.. killing myself? And I'll be at peace forever? I'm not convinced that it would be this easy to escape the curse of consciousness. There has to be a catch.

what's your foolproof method?

 

[google]

But yet there is an even stronger force(survival instinct)where most people aren't able to go through with it, as much as they may want to.

Fair enough

Reincarnation may simply be survival instinct expressing itself as an idea

I'm just absolutely terrified of it. I wish I could just get it over with.

 

[Enyan]

The reason why I personally don't worry about it too much is the fact that death is part of everyone's life. Even if I don't CTB, I'm still gonna die, and I don't think it's gonna matter much whether or not I die now or later (in the context of who or what I could be reborn as).

 

[Endlichkeit]

To me, reincarnation is obvious, but not in the sense that a particular "I"/"self" reincarnates as if a soul changes bodies. Rather, subjective experience cannot be destroyed because it is existence/Being itself. There is no "you" or "me", we are all just excitations in the field of universal consciousness. If one excitation disappears, another one appears. What you call "I"/"self" is just a local point of view of consciousness on itself. Globally, you (if you associate yourself with the global consciousness) already exist as all living beings, it's just that you only have access to one point of view. Therefore, there is no death or birth in the conventional sense. Death is merely the erasure of a particular local state of universal consciousness.

 

[nothingbutyou]

I have these fears of reincarnation too. We've already emerged from non-existence once, so why are some people so sure that won't happen again after death?

What scares me the most is the concept of eternal return, where you are continously reincarnated as yourself (your current life) over and over again, for eternity. Each life plays out exactly the same, and there's no way out. When you die, you just restart as a baby, and go on until you kill yourself again in the exact same way.

It is really odd to me that people think you're dead forever once you die, as we have all already been dead before birth, and then have been given life.

I've attempted multiple times, but now that i've developed a fool-proof method I'm a bit on the edge about it. My current life is a nightmare, as every day is the same, with no way out, and I just wake up every morning in disappointment that I'm still here. I just feel immense dread all the time. I know my life is doomed. But I'd rather this than have to relive all traumatic events in my life.

It's almost like suicide is too good to be true. You're telling me that I can escape all the dread, suffering, worrying, loneliness etc by just.. killing myself? And I'll be at peace forever? I'm not convinced that it would be this easy to escape the curse of consciousness. There has to be a catch.

my exact same thoughts

 

[nettspend]

what's your foolproof method?

I detail it in this thread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/heroin-psh-the-best-of-both-worlds.248311/