Height is important and im tired of people pretending its not

[Oreki]

Not to be that guy, but life for short men is basically life on hard mode. The problem isn't you though, it's how shallow society can be. Real stature isn't measured in inches, and people who judge others by that probably aren't the kind of people you want in your life anyway. I also don't think your mindset is the problem for feeling this way. The real question is how to deal with it now, because it's not something you can easily change

 

[Mr.Tristesse]

The main topic is about OP's height in relation to their vulnerability or perceived safety. Being short isn't the actual explanation as to why they feel the way they do, correlation≠causation. Being tall can be a privilege in the same sense that being white can be a privilege, but being tall/white does not make you inherently superior to others who don't possess those traits.

They also mention emotional insecurity and self-esteem but still. It may not be the sole factor but there is no need for equivocation or tip-toeing. Short guy feels the various described negative feelings in social settings and height is just tangential? Come on. Vulnerability and safety can be pronounced in short men because they still have to deal with the assumption that men are dominant, protectors, etc..

Of course it doesn't make you inherently superior but humans, and entities that are composed of humans, don't always think like that.

Nobody was trying to invalidate OP's feelings, but exaggerating the impact of privilege and feeding into negative biases at the same time isn't really helpful.

Well, some people may not have been "trying" to per se and indeed may have been trying to be genuinely encouraging but invalidation can be unconscious and unintentional.

The internal negative biases are a function of empirical external negative biases and denying the existence of those isn't helpful st all. Taking the summation of experiences being a short man is hard (again, not that it is prohibitive to happiness or that being tall guarantees it obviously) and the unfortunate truth is that the onus falls squarely on the individual's shoulders to find a way to deal.

 

[aufrechtm7]

They also mention emotional insecurity and self-esteem but still. It may not be the sole factor but there is no need for equivocation or tip-toeing. Short guy feels the various described negative feelings in social settings and height is just tangential? Come on. Vulnerability and safety can be pronounced in short men because they still have to deal with the assumption that men are dominant, protectors, etc..

Yes, and their emotions are 100% valid, I didn't claim or insinuate height was tangential in any of my posts. It can be pronounced, can acting a key word since it's not absolute.

Of course it doesn't make you inherently superior but humans, and entities that are composed of humans, don't always think like that.

We agree then, because this what I've been saying and I'm confused as to why people are getting aggressive with me over this. I'm trying to help OP think less about height in relation to tall people, but other things that could actually be contributing to his feelings. There's alternative explanations for these feelings that aren't answered purely by height.

Well, some people may not have been "trying" to per se and indeed may have been trying to be genuinely encouraging but invalidation can be unconscious and unintentional.

I actually agree, I did reread the thread another time and can see how some of the things tall people said could be perceived as being dismissive.

The internal negative biases are a function of empirical external negative biases and denying the existence of those isn't helpful st all. Taking the summation of experiences being a short man is hard (again, not that it is prohibitive to happiness or that being tall is a guarantee, obviously) and the unfortunate truth is that the onus falls squarely on the individual's shoulders to find a way to deal.

I haven't denied the existence of these biases, but they aren't the end all be all and I've been consistent on that.

I'm not going to let people believe that I or anyone else is a "genetic failure" or doomed just because we are towered over by people who would be considered tall. It's harmful rhetoric and all it does is perpetuate suffering when you have people convince you of these things as being absolute like many in this thread have done.

Also I'm editing this to say that I'm extremely passionate about this topic specifically BECAUSE I'm short. Hopefully nothing I've said comes off as aggressive to you, but people shouldn't have to feel bad about their place in society because they don't possess certain privileges. Again, if people apply this reasoning to identical concepts such as race, you can quickly see how it dangerous it is.