Method Has anyone heard the SN podcasts?

[Polyxo]

Just saw this on the front page of this forum. Is this SN podcast still applicable now? I'm a fairly recent user so I don't know what knowledge about SN has changed since the start of this thread.

 

[unluckysadness]

I doubt about having "euphoric effect" with SN... Did the people from Exit try it ? or did they smoke week instead...

 

[Obliviate]

Just saw this on the front page of this forum. Is this SN podcast still applicable now? I'm a fairly recent user so I don't know what knowledge about SN has changed since the start of this thread.

Yes it's still applicable.

I doubt about having "euphoric effect" with SN... Did the people from Exit try it ? or did they smoke week instead...

LOL I don't blame anyone for doubting it. But it's the best I've got. It's terrifying.
Some people have stated it was peaceful others stated it was painful. Now………I think we can all agree that living is more terrifying. That period of time after taking SN and death may be worth the pain of any to free us from this cruel and fuck ass world

 

[zardoz]

Thanks for the post OP @Obliviate
A good listen.
There's a lot of well meaning but sometimes misguided misinformation about SN on this site. Particularly around the experience of when it takes effect, which can be alarming. Good to get some objective fact-based opinion on it.
Idk if these podcasts are already mentioned in the SN megathread or similar? If not the link to them should be made sticky somewhere useful. Sorry Idk how to go about requesting that, would need a mod I guess?
Thanks again.

 

[forgivemegod]

appreciate the post

 

[TBONTB]

SN has become the dominant "humane" method in Texas for controlling wild pig populations.

Fun fact I guess.

Really? How?

I have no idea at this point. Everything is very conflicting. That's why we need the updated ppeh/essentials

What are the points of agreement? Is it -

Tachycardia? (Mildly to extremely uncomfortable?)
Vomitting (moderately uncomfortable)
Dizzyness (also moderately uncomfortable

Obviously individual results vary, but it seems like it's not going to be fun. Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?

 

[QuincyME]

It's funny how some people, even the worst members of society, are so desperate to live and how good, decent people would do just about anything to die. Life is such a paradox.

 

[rekt]

Really? How?

What are the points of agreement? Is it -

Tachycardia? (Mildly to extremely uncomfortable?)
Vomitting (moderately uncomfortable)
Dizzyness (also moderately uncomfortable

Obviously individual results vary, but it seems like it's not going to be fun. Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?

"Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?"

Here's the thing that really confuses me about the SN protocol in PPH.

The protocol recommends taking oxazepam straight after drinking the SN, in order to lessen the unpleasant symptoms of ingesting SN and shorten the time to consciousness loss.

Here's the problem. The onset of action for oxazepam is said to be 30 to 60 minutes, while the symptoms of SN poisoning begin within 5 minutes after ingestion. Death is supposed to occur after 40 minutes.

This begs the question, how on earth is oxazepam supposed to help you if you're already dead by the time it starts taking effect??????

2g of SN absorbed is lethal and the prescription is 25, no more needs to be added.

If this is accurate and the lethal dose is just 2g then how are people actually surviving SN attempts after taking the recommended 25g? Is it just people getting rescued during the attempt?

 

[Freedomm]

"Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?"

Here's the thing that really confuses me about the SN protocol in PPH.

The protocol recommends taking oxazepam straight after drinking the SN, in order to lessen the unpleasant symptoms of ingesting SN and shorten the time to consciousness loss.

Here's the problem. The onset of action for oxazepam is said to be 30 to 60 minutes, while the symptoms of SN poisoning begin within 5 minutes after ingestion. Death is supposed to occur after 40 minutes.

This begs the question, how on earth is oxazepam supposed to help you if you're already dead by the time it starts taking effect??????


If this is accurate and the lethal dose is just 2g then how are people actually surviving SN attempts after taking the recommended 25g? Is it just people getting rescued during the attempt?

People who have taken 25g survive by a miracle, they are either found, or their body manages to vomit a lethal dose of the toxin, but I think this is rare, the success rate is about 80%.

One Chinese guy threw up as many as 4 times, but he still achieved success, although I do not know how many grams he drank.

 

[Obliviate]

Thanks for the post OP @Obliviate
A good listen.
There's a lot of well meaning but sometimes misguided misinformation about SN on this site. Particularly around the experience of when it takes effect, which can be alarming. Good to get some objective fact-based opinion on it.
Idk if these podcasts are already mentioned in the SN megathread or similar? If not the link to them should be made sticky somewhere useful. Sorry Idk how to go about requesting that, would need a mod I guess?
Thanks again.

Hey, sure thing. I don't think it is in the megathread or a sticky thread. Maybe a mod can help. No matter how many years it's been since I posted this, there will always be misinformation, rumors, fake posts of prolifers and fear. The only one okay is fear but not so much that it degrades a whole method.

appreciate the post

Sure thing

Really? How?

What are the points of agreement? Is it -

Tachycardia? (Mildly to extremely uncomfortable?)
Vomitting (moderately uncomfortable)
Dizzyness (also moderately uncomfortable

Obviously individual results vary, but it seems like it's not going to be fun. Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?

There are attached articles of how SN was used to humanely Unalive the pigs.
When the regimen is followed, the discomfort can be mild but not overbearing. I don't think "passes out quickly" is the point of this method. Many have said it's peaceful but don't expect being lifted to the skies by angels peaceful.

It's funny how some people, even the worst members of society, are so desperate to live and how good, decent people would do just about anything to die. Life is such a paradox.

I think about this all the time. My hope is all that should be left on this earth after all the good ones Unalive themselves, the bad ones Unalive the good ones(ofcourse) all that will be left is the bad ones forced to be around nothing but darknesss and be engulfed in it. When there are no good people left…….the reason for being bad might cease to exist. To whom will they inflict pain upon? They need victims. But unfortunately this world gives birth to hundreds of thousands of victims a day.

"Seems like the main hope is that one passes out quickly?"

Here's the thing that really confuses me about the SN protocol in PPH.

The protocol recommends taking oxazepam straight after drinking the SN, in order to lessen the unpleasant symptoms of ingesting SN and shorten the time to consciousness loss.

Here's the problem. The onset of action for oxazepam is said to be 30 to 60 minutes, while the symptoms of SN poisoning begin within 5 minutes after ingestion. Death is supposed to occur after 40 minutes.

This begs the question, how on earth is oxazepam supposed to help you if you're already dead by the time it starts taking effect??????


If this is accurate and the lethal dose is just 2g then how are people actually surviving SN attempts after taking the recommended 25g? Is it just people getting rescued during the attempt?

Hey so I think I commented on your post about this, which is a good question. I would adjust it according to your body. I would take some beforehand(making sure to not pass out before taking SN) and after. There should be a 2 day regimen as well. Which I think I would follow.

People are mainly surviving because they were caught and rescued. I would do 20g for average weight. It's a high amount I'm assuming to ensure death.

People who have taken 25g survive by a miracle, they are either found, or their body manages to vomit a lethal dose of the toxin, but I think this is rare, the success rate is about 80%.

One Chinese guy threw up as many as 4 times, but he still achieved success, although I do not know how many grams he drank.

Exactly. Good point.

Wow. That gives me some hope that even if I vomit a good amount I can CTB. A second glass is recommended.

 

[Freedomm]

Exactly. Good point.

Wow. That gives me some hope that even if I vomit a good amount I can CTB. A second glass is recommended.

As far as I know, it's better to make 2 glasses, but I doubt it's possible to drink again after vomiting. Dizziness, weakness and severe nausea will follow after 5 minutes and I do not know how hard it will be to drink the second dose. But for reliability and the exclusion of bad consequences, I think this is mandatory, and it's not for nothing that pph recommends it.

 

[kopebaldy]

Idk that I buy dying via SN as being "euphoric", even though it's my method, I'm trying to be careful to anticipate that it may very well be unpleasant.

Agreed, I watched a few SN videos, maybe they already lost conscious way before the end and it's just the body doing its thing, but they certainly don't look quick or "euphoric".

 

[Obliviate]

Agreed, I watched a few SN videos, maybe they already lost conscious way before the end and it's just the body doing its thing, but they certainly don't look quick or "euphoric".

Can you describe some of these videos? Is it the recent ones from china? Because those are a bit unreliable

 

[kopebaldy]

Can you describe some of these videos? Is it the recent ones from china? Because those are a bit unreliable

I watched them some time ago while researching so not recent, they didn't appear to be in pain, just vomiting, heavy breathing and grunting.

A far cry from "euphoric".

 

[Freedomm]

Agreed, I watched a few SN videos, maybe they already lost conscious way before the end and it's just the body doing its thing, but they certainly don't look quick or "euphoric".

I agree, euphoria is far from there, if it exists with inert gases and carbon monoxide, then it can occur from sleeping pills only before losing consciousness, when you no longer care about the symptoms and you realize that you are falling asleep. I've heard that with hypoxia, the brain releases hormones that calm and anesthetize, but I think they'll just make the symptoms less painful.
In any case, even by video it is impossible to determine how a person feels and whether he is conscious.

 

[Obliviate]

I watched them some time ago while researching so not recent, they didn't appear to be in pain, just vomiting, heavy breathing and grunting.

A far cry from "euphoric".

I agree, euphoria is far from there, if it exists with inert gases and carbon monoxide, then it can occur from sleeping pills only before losing consciousness, when you no longer care about the symptoms and you realize that you are falling asleep. I've heard that with hypoxia, the brain releases hormones that calm and anesthetize, but I think they'll just make the symptoms less painful.
In any case, even by video it is impossible to determine how a person feels and whether he is conscious.

While I agree that the side effects may not be euphoric maybe he was referencing the actual death instead. There is a thread here where they had symptoms but they went away and they stated it was peaceful. Unfortunately this person got caught.

I watched them some time ago while researching so not recent, they didn't appear to be in pain, just vomiting, heavy breathing and grunting.

A far cry from "euphoric".

Heavy breathing but not suffocating?