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dust-in-the-wind

dust-in-the-wind

Animal Lover
Aug 24, 2024
760
How many times do I have hear "Growing old is a privilege denied to many"? No is f*cking isn't. Growing old is just a slower way to die, often disease riddled, decrepit or demented. For context I am 55 years old and I can't tolerate the aging process. It fuels my depression and anxiety. Seeing my parents physical and mental conditions at their old age now is horrifying. I have no children by choice and I don't regret that decision. However I see no future or point of continuing on, yet I am too chickenshit to do anything about it. Does anyone else want to die for fear of old age and all its atrocities??
 
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j.rez729

Banned
Nov 8, 2024
93
I agree. The entire point of existence is to be young and beautiful forever. I can only hope there are higher realms where this happens. But here on Earth, it's an ugly process of death and rebirth and suffering. Every day I grow slowly more horrified at seeing my mother's decline. I believe that we're here to suffer and there is no valid reason for it. Thank you for not having children. I used to hate my mother for bringing me into this world, but seeing her decline has softened my feelings toward her. However, I can't totally shake the resentment that she clearly brought me into this world under an illusion involving religion and that life has meaning. It doesn't, and so I try to just feel sorry for her rather than angry at her.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

I have finally found my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,796
Yep. I consider old age to be a curse, not a privilege. I want to ctb to avoid old age as well as avoid any future risk of suffering
 
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ScaredOfMachines

ScaredOfMachines

I am who I am
Nov 8, 2024
156
I'm terrified of aging in general. The thought of watching my body slowly deteriorate and become something unrecognizable is horrifying. Being a pre-hrt trans person and also having to worry about my body developing more curves and irreversible feminine features doesn't help things. I've heard about people dreaming of growing old with others, but I don't see how they can think of any positives about that.
 
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NoPoint2Life

NoPoint2Life

Why is this so hard?
Aug 31, 2024
829
Totally agree. I have never wanted to get old and now I'm 44 and like how the fuck did I get here?
And I am going through the same thing with my mom. She has so many health issues. I don't know where to start and basically at this point she is onlyfighting to get back to an already shitty quality of life. It is horrifying.
I have a lot of elderly neighbors and yeah, some of them are in good shape and able to do a lot. But also some of them are in bad shape and also very alone in life. Why get older just to watch everyone around you die anyway and leave you to suffer all alone
 
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SomePeacePlease

SomePeacePlease

Existing before Exiting
May 28, 2023
43
I fully agree. The quote "Many people die when they're in their 20's, they are just not buried until they're in their 70's" feels very real. I'm 43 and have wanted to not wake up since I started my "mental health journey" 20 years ago.
 
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davidtorez

davidtorez

Warlock
Mar 8, 2024
715
I have to agree 100% with what everyone here has said so far! Nothing more to add , but yeah I'm 44 this year, and I'm falling apart because of arthritis and tendonosis . I can only imagine what will happen later on. I'd love to be able to muster the courage to ctb very very soon
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,649
Yes. Part of my wanting to CTB is to avoid old age. I even think 50's will likely see the onset of aches and pains that make my job much more difficult. I'm in my mid forties now and it's much harder than my 30's which were harder than my 20's.

Really, just the higher up-keep my body is starting to need to function properly is annoying. I really notice the difference if I eat poorly and don't exercise. Neither of which I particularly enjoy. So, it's like the suffering is unavoidable. Either you suffer in the short- term by taking very good care of yourself in the hopes the longer- term benefits will pay off- they may not still of course. Or, you relax and indulge in the short- term and suffer for that in both the short and long- term! Nah, I don't think old age is for me.

I suppose some people are lucky enough to retain their health. Maybe they are grateful to make old bones but none of it appeals to me.
 
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Pluto

Pluto

Cat Extremist
Dec 27, 2020
5,485
 
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legoshi

legoshi

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Sep 3, 2024
116
How many times do I have hear "Growing old is a privilege denied to many"? No is f*cking isn't. Growing old is just a slower way to die, often disease riddled, decrepit or demented. For context I am 55 years old and I can't tolerate the aging process. It fuels my depression and anxiety. Seeing my parents physical and mental conditions at their old age now is horrifying. I have no children by choice and I don't regret that decision. However I see no future or point of continuing on, yet I am too chickenshit to do anything about it. Does anyone else want to die for fear of old age and all its atrocities??

Getting older isn't my main reason but it's in the mix of things.i have never had any self confidence or self esteem and seeing myself look different In the mirror is fucking hard. I just look so lifeless and surly. I also have no kids, no spouse, no friends, no pets, nothing. Yet somehow I keep pushing forward and trying even though I have no reason to and I know it going to only get harder as I get older. I don't want to live a long lonely sad life.
 
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Tig

Tig

Student
Oct 17, 2024
171
You spelled it out perfectly,
Amen Sister.
Growing old is not a privilege,
It's curse,
Selfish people will abound though.
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,175
When I was 55 I felt young and full of energy, but now 14 years later I cannot ignore the decay of old age. It is in harmony with nature to end ones life when the bad experiences overweight the good ones. Unfortunately the survival instict is not fading as fast as the vitality.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
44,406
I personally find it horrific how a human can suffer for so long, the thought of being enslaved in this existence suffering all for the sake of it just to die in agony from old age is unbearable to me, I personally only hope to not exist, only non-existence is desirable to me, I see existence as an abomination, the fact that it was imposed in the first place is so tragic to me.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,619
old age is a curse . but every human gets old so life is a curse too because old age is part of it. Just 2 things out of many prove life is bad. every animal gets old. getting old is that every human and animal deteriorates every cell and every organ slowly decaying corrupting deteriorating shows life is bad.

Any organ can have a malfunction causing unending constant unbearable pain. the probability for chronic diseases increases as the human gets older.

I worked in a nursing home . old age is torture.

they hide many things just a few. pain can a billion times worse than you can imagine. old age is a nightmare torture but they make it seem like it's the "golden years"

humans don't realize how bad pain can be. evolution spent hundreds of millions of years making pain worse. why? because the animals that can feel pain worse will survive longer and produce more offspring.

i guess people think ripping a nail off a finger with pliers or a tooth out with pliers with no anesthesia is fun . I just typed that so if anyone reads below doesn't thinks it's bs what i 'm saying below because those who were tortured as with the nails and teeth torture likely felt like that pain is a billion times worse than you can describe it.

once i tried to do minor surgery on myself with just a needle . i couldn't push the needle past a certain point into my flesh. i don't have the words to describe how bad the pain was just from a thick needle syringe 18 gauge. it was an evil beyond description beyond imagination. all i can say is that the pain kept getting worse every 1/10th of a second becoming a trillion times worse every 1/10th

This was just small point on my body , imagine from multiple large areas at once.

i saw many people in nursing homes with incurable skin sores all over their body in constant unbearable pain .

no pleasurable addictions are worth anything much less extreme suffering

this could be a first paragraph of a 1000 page book describing the evil that is life and this world .
 
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idelttoilfsadness21

I need a moment right now
Jan 6, 2025
649
How many times do I have hear "Growing old is a privilege denied to many"? No is f*cking isn't. Growing old is just a slower way to die, often disease riddled, decrepit or demented. For context I am 55 years old and I can't tolerate the aging process. It fuels my depression and anxiety. Seeing my parents physical and mental conditions at their old age now is horrifying. I have no children by choice and I don't regret that decision. However I see no future or point of continuing on, yet I am too chickenshit to do anything about it. Does anyone else want to die for fear of old age and all its atrocities??
I have always known this world was a curse... nothing makes sense and I am out to leave it if I grow old and have my body rot before my eyes while im infertile and having to endurefeelhing more heat because of menopause because of bones crippling from the inside. that's acurse not a blessing and everyone treats old people awful because they know this as the truth. this world is a gas lighting, manipulative mess...
 
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Ashes of a Dreamer

Ashes of a Dreamer

Looking for freedom out of this hell
Dec 29, 2024
119
Well, you lived too much for my standards rsrsrsrsrs But, yeah, aging is an inevitable problem, moreover on nowadays, when we want to avoid it at every cost. That's the reason why PPH is dedicated mainly for the elders (upon 50 years).
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
5,119
I don't believe that growing old is a privilege but I also don't believe that it's a curse either. I don't get why people feel the need to categorize it as either good or bad. In my eyes, growing old is neutral. It's just a natural and unavoidable aspect of life that comes with its own sets of pros and cons. I think it's better to just accept it for what it is rather than make it out to be some horrific atrocity or amazing privilege. I personally don't want to grow old but that is mostly because I don't like the idea of living a long life, let alone do I enjoy having more responsibilities which tends to come with getting older.
 
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LostLily

LostLily

Why do I exist?
Nov 18, 2024
757
Growing old doesn't appeal to me. I rather die young because I don't want to be old and feeble. So old that I will need a caregiver to help me do things
 
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dust-in-the-wind

dust-in-the-wind

Animal Lover
Aug 24, 2024
760
When I was 55 I felt young and full of energy, but now 14 years later I cannot ignore the decay of old age. It is in harmony with nature to end ones life when the bad experiences overweight the good ones. Unfortunately the survival instict is not fading as fast as the vitality.
I don't feel old yet, no aches or pains. I just know it's all downhill from here. I cannot imagine making it to your age. Hopefully my survival instincts give out soon!
 
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neurotoxic

neurotoxic

Student
Sep 15, 2019
135
As someone in my 20s I probably have limited perspective on this so sorry if I sound naive. I think growing old isn't so much my main concern personally, but rather growing old without gaining any of the stability or resources I thought would be easier to access as I got older. Like, I'd definitely rather die than reach my thirties as broke and ill-prepared for the future as I am in my 20s. No savings, paycheck to paycheck, mental illness, people told me shit was supposed to get easier the older I got but people fucking lied. All I'll get one day if I don't ctb is the consequences of age on top of the problems I already have I think, if I even could survive that long.
 
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Shadows From Hell

Shadows From Hell

The one who has lost a lot, fears nothing.
Oct 21, 2024
436
I'm 54, and I don't want to live to be old. Watching my mom(81) suffer from all sorts of old people shit, makes me want to cut my life short.
 
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Autumn_Stars

Autumn_Stars

Member
Jun 9, 2024
82
Totally agree. I have never wanted to get old and now I'm 44 and like how the fuck did I get here?
And I am going through the same thing with my mom. She has so many health issues. I don't know where to start and basically at this point she is onlyfighting to get back to an already shitty quality of life. It is horrifying.
I have a lot of elderly neighbors and yeah, some of them are in good shape and able to do a lot. But also some of them are in bad shape and also very alone in life. Why get older just to watch everyone around you die anyway and leave you to suffer all alone
I get the feeling that people here are mostly young because of their anime avatars. I am a little older then you. It was a long slog for me too.
 
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human909

human909

Banned
Dec 30, 2024
591
I agree, dying old is not a privilege. If you are here just sitting in pain why not die now then wait and get the same thing late? i mean this world is crazy for letting us suffer here.
 
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divinemistress36

Angelic
Jan 1, 2024
4,758
I had a bad stroke at 29 and parents having to take care of me . Theres no way in hell I will make it to old age and Im sorry to sound vain but getting all wrinkly like a prune no thanks
 
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Sutter

Sutter

Experienced
Oct 21, 2024
243
Privilege.

That word denotes a sense of slavery as well as gratefulness. Maybe when we are young 3 - 4 years old there was a collective wonder at the presentations of life. As I've aged, older myself, that view fades and surges at times.

The phrase though turns round about privilege. Those that find joy and meaning in their moments are too far away to see the other side. Even more so that time spent in the dark will dim their light and they don't want that. So the phrases are short meant to season a soup in the hopes it's tastier for the dark ones. Same can be said on the other side where no glimmer lends a glow. Reminds me of a movie, forget the title. Had Robin Williams in it. Short of it is, he died after his wife and went to save her from her own doom as a suicide. The god there told him he could try but would likely lose himself as well. If nothing else it showed the steps one from a life perspective would attempt with a death perspective. Seemed spot on to me. One can't really understand another but by walking the same path and risking the same outcome as the person already in the dark. As in the movie, time was limited to help that person. Much the same as it does in the here and now.

Privilege…there is the privilege to live life, to not live life, to accept death and rail against it. That privilege is innate, more a universal right not something bestowed. A fateful outcome to an unknown desire. What I know of this world is all around me and life as well as death are not a privilege. One is granted before words even order themselves, and the other is a defined event that is not ruled over but attempted to be.

A response to that phrase may be, you have my privilege to make the world as I see fit, to graciously have that thought in your head, to gratefully accept my view of a persons autonomy to decide, to thank yourself that you have lived to be old, and if you want further discussion you are welcome to walk in the dark and experience the same fervent belief in death that you have in life. In keeping with your own steadfastness though don't visit unless you can really afford the time, and as no deep shadows in the light no torches in the dark.

The last years of life are worse than the start for most. Death doulas don't exist because the old are still in wonder, its fear, a lessening of fear to enable a calmer passing because sheer terror of death at the doorstep rattles the living as well as those leaving.

The onset of age related disease and general body failures is much the same as dumping scalding oil all over oneself while sitting in the middle of the Sahara. Funny how the latter doesn't happen.

Would be my view if a life lived brings one to old age and the dust is in the wind they can have the privilege of a noble grip on the terrors that await them and the small box that life becomes, they can drop their thanks at my feet for pissing on a view of life as they did mine of death.

In kindness as this was a bit dripping, would let them know at times a more careful and thoughtful delivery coupled with an open mind may light a small candle where we can see each other but not today, perhaps another time when there is less dust in the wind.
 
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