Got my SN taken away by the police

[nitrogenous]

You're correct, they don't care. It's just a thing they say because it's polite to say. I've had even friends and family say this and then go on to treat me horribly. They don't give a single fuck.

Some of it is them convincing themselves they do care so they can tell themselves they aren't bad people. But it's just ego serving, they really don't give a shit.

And they can't imagine our suffering either. They truly can't comprehend it. They themselves go through life in a kind of surface way, because nothing bad enough happens to them to make them understand. They get little boo boo 'oh my life was a struggle for three years and it was soooo hard uWu.

Or, terrible shit happens to them, but they cling to religion, denial, or some other absurdity.

They truly do not and cannot understand how we feel and have no concept of suffering.

Exactly, they think they know it all, but how can they say those things when they've lived a decent life with support around them? I got told idk what I'm doing being young and wanting to end it all when I have so much future ahead of me… Well, have you considered that I'm on the verge of literally being on the streets and even getting deported of a country? That's not a burden someone as young as me should have to carry.

Unfortunately, humans are inherently selfish. They really don't care about anyone else other than themselves. Of course, I know some do genuinely care, but it's really rare. At least for my case, that's why no one is doing anyone to at least try and help me. They've all given up and me dying wouldn't impact them in any ways.

I know it's very common with helpline volunteers, where they just do that to be seen as a "decent human being" without actually having the compassion and care. They would be like "I also went through xyz but I'm living a good life now". Well good for you I guess, but you are not me and I bet that if they try being me they would probably give up as well.

I used to be very heavily religious, until that was used against me and my suicidality. I got hooked into a cult (or two actually) and that only made me feel so much worse off, thinking about how they're dragging me in this shit and how to even escape the cult. They always hook people in with pretending to help them and care, only to abandon them once they're in the cult and can't escape.

 

[thesighofleaves]

Exactly, they think they know it all, but how can they say those things when they've lived a decent life with support around them? I got told idk what I'm doing being young and wanting to end it all when I have so much future ahead of me… Well, have you considered that I'm on the verge of literally being on the streets and even getting deported of a country? That's not a burden someone as young as me should have to carry.

Unfortunately, humans are inherently selfish. They really don't care about anyone else other than themselves. Of course, I know some do genuinely care, but it's really rare. At least for my case, that's why no one is doing anyone to at least try and help me. They've all given up and me dying wouldn't impact them in any ways.

I know it's very common with helpline volunteers, where they just do that to be seen as a "decent human being" without actually having the compassion and care. They would be like "I also went through xyz but I'm living a good life now". Well good for you I guess, but you are not me and I bet that if they try being me they would probably give up as well.

I used to be very heavily religious, until that was used against me and my suicidality. I got hooked into a cult (or two actually) and that only made me feel so much worse off, thinking about how they're dragging me in this shit and how to even escape the cult. They always hook people in with pretending to help them and care, only to abandon them once they're in the cult and can't escape.

You have a good head on your shoulders. You see the lies, the duplicity, the bullshit. How suffering is only temporary for them.Even made your way out of cults, which is not easy to do on your own. I'm glad you made it out.

I don't have anything to add, really. You're spot on. You get it.

We live in a truly crazy, horrible, insane world.

 

[wine is fine but]

I'm actually ruminating a lot thinking how maybe I should have fought harder when they tried taking the SN to see whether they do have legal rights to take it or whether I had the choice to not have it taken away

no, you should not have

even if they had no authoritah to take it, they do have the authoritah to claim that you are a danger to yourself and call an ambulance on you, with a one way ticket to a psych ward

you do not give them crap. just like out on the road. if you are arrogant to them or tell them give it their best shot for a roadworthy, they will find something wrong on your car. you just smile politely and (if you have brown eyes) give them the sad puppy dog eye look and watch them go through gritted teeth. they are just doing their job, that someone higher above them has forced them to do

i would assume that because you seem to have a history with mental health wards, your name is flagged. there is probably a higher chance the new package might be confiscated, but whether that be 10% or 90%, i obviously do not know

may i ask why you feel that you might be deported?
are you a permanent resident or just on a visa?
i am not a lawyer, but to my understanding having sn is not a criminal offence. it has many uses and it is actually sold in australia, so it cannot be illegal to have. it is illegal to sell it to someone who is not in an appropriate business, with the appropriate paperwork, but since you are buying and not selling, that should not affect you in a legal sense