FSH Question?

[Catchthebusnow]

Hello! Does anyone have any sense of how *loud* doing the whole hanging over the door with the dumbbell technique is? Like during the convulsions? Is the idea that since you're constrained by the rope, you're right up against the door, so you might rub against it but you're not going to hit it?

Originally, I really wanted to jump from a hotel or AirBNB but finding a suitable place is not working out. When I read about the dumbbell hanging method I thought : maybe this could work? No need to go anywhere? Only thing is, I would be doing it against the door that connects our basement to the garage (on the garage facing side of the door) in the middle of the night, with my dad two floors up in his room…I would try to see if he was asleep before heading down, but if he wakes up … I just can't tell if this is something that would be mostly a lot of scraping / rubbing against the door and unlikely to get saved or whether it's super loud, or what …
Any thoughts whatsoever would be SO appreciated, thank you

 

[Nullm]

Once you jump, you will probably do everything in your power to try get out. so I guess it depends on the material of the door, or the wall around it, and how much noise does it make when getting hit.

 

[Catchthebusnow]

Once you jump, you will probably do everything in your power to try get out. so I guess it depends on the material of the door, or the wall around it, and how much noise does it make when getting hit.

Thank you for your reply!! I don't think I will because my brain has been destroyed by psych meds and I no longer experience any emotions, including fear. I can be in life threatening situations and feel total chemical calm (not in a good calm kind of way, but rather like an unnatural brain-dead lack of reaction) no fight or flight, adrenaline, panic, stress response whatsoever. So actually no issue with SI. But I'm worried about the unconscious convulsions that I've heard people talking about… I just can't seem to find good information on how forceful they are, because if I'm just sort of twitching against the door, or a hand strikes the door, maybe that's fine, but idk if they are more than that?

 

[Catchthebusnow]

I'm just so desperate and I need to CTB, I'm trying to draw out / reason out / visualize, if my body is up against the door, whether that effectively constrains my motions / the force I can generate / what I can do to that door, lol in terms of causing noise. I know we're not supposed to use AI for this stuff but I told ChatGPT I'm a "forensic investigator" lol and it seems to think that the movements would be more like rubbing, scraping, dull irregular limb/hand/foot contact … obviously I know not to put my faith in this but it does give me some hope … I just feel like there must be a way to reason this out. This may be the only method accessible to me, and that's not going to change any time soon. I cannot live in this chemically lobotomized state in which I literally cannot feel love for my family, grief, sadness, etc., it's a state incompatible with human life. I'd rather try something even if it's not 100% than continue on in this state … but I'm also not going to try something if it's pretty clearly going to fail … it's just, I would hate to pass on this method because of a concern about being heard that's not rooted in reality.
I've read a lot of the AMAZING information put out there by @JesiBel @AreWeWinning @Worndown
I'm sure you're all super busy but if you have any thoughts whatsoever I would appreciate it so much!
Thanks SaSu

 

[Worndown]

Some peoole go quietly.
Some flop around like a caught fish.
Plan on flopping and banging around. That means being alone for 30 minutes after starting.
Practice your setup. That way, when you have the time, you just grab and go.

 

[JesiBel]

I'm just so desperate and I need to CTB, I'm trying to draw out / reason out / visualize, if my body is up against the door, whether that effectively constrains my motions / the force I can generate / what I can do to that door, lol in terms of causing noise. I know we're not supposed to use AI for this stuff but I told ChatGPT I'm a "forensic investigator" lol and it seems to think that the movements would be more like rubbing, scraping, dull irregular limb/hand/foot contact … obviously I know not to put my faith in this but it does give me some hope … I just feel like there must be a way to reason this out. This may be the only method accessible to me, and that's not going to change any time soon. I cannot live in this chemically lobotomized state in which I literally cannot feel love for my family, grief, sadness, etc., it's a state incompatible with human life. I'd rather try something even if it's not 100% than continue on in this state … but I'm also not going to try something if it's pretty clearly going to fail … it's just, I would hate to pass on this method because of a concern about being heard that's not rooted in reality.
I've read a lot of the AMAZING information put out there by @JesiBel @AreWeWinning @Worndown
I'm sure you're all super busy but if you have any thoughts whatsoever I would appreciate it so much!
Thanks SaSu

Hello!

I'm very sorry you're in a desperate situation. I think it's risky to make an attempt when there's someone else in the house.

You should be alone to avoid being found prematurely (you know, the longer the brain is without oxygen, the greater the damage..); you never know if for some reason he might wake up and try to find you.

Suspicious movements during the night are easily audible if you are a light sleeper (footsteps, a door opening or closing, someone moving things or being active)

Regarding noises, it is likely that some sounds will be emitted; the body is against the door, and during the convulsion/spasm phase your limbs could move involuntarily and hit the surface of the door. (We cannot know beforehand what will happen to each of us at that moment; some people exhibit more intense movements, while others remain almost still throughout the entire process). Also, when you kick the chair or object you're standing on, it will also make some noise.

Please, don't rush; being impulsive isn't good. It is advisable not to play with the odds (maybe he'll wake up... maybe not, there's no certainty about this).

It would be better if you could wait for another time, when everything is safer. Even now, in your current state, it is preferable to remain calm and clear-headed.

 

[Catchthebusnow]

@JesiBel @Worndown
Thank you so, so much for the replies!!!!
Ah that makes sense … I guess better not risk it :/

I guess the same would apply for a hotel room doing the over the door trick? Do you think others would hear banging? Would they just ignore ? …

I wonder if I could do one of those doorway pull up bars. I've seen people talk about using the freestanding ones. It's just the doorway ones seem unreliable though. Do you guys know of any other "hacks" like this?

I guess an AirBNB that's like a whole house could work for the over door trick? The only thing then would be if they have cameras inside despite the rule, or noise sensors …

Any thoughts? Thank you so much again for replying!