Method Exit Grave

[SoDead]

I am somewhat paranoid about risks of failure when trying to terminate my life. It is especially scary to survive with some severe damage to my organism which will not allow to try it another time and will force me into years of suffering.

And unfortunately popular peaceful methods often do not seem 100% reliable. If for example I choose Exit Bag, there may be convulsions which can break this device. May be probability of that is rather low, but it still worries me.

I try to think up ways to fix this. Today it came to my mind, perhaps as a half joke, that Exit Bag can be replaced with Exit Grave. If I have a "grave" filled with some gas significantly heavier than air (perhaps one of those relatively inert and nontoxic refrigerants used in air conditioners, or sulfur hexafluoride), it would be very hard to break it in an unconscious state, or to rise from this "grave" somehow when my brain is already seriously damaged. It would not need to be airtight either, some cover at the top should be enough to prevent the heavy gas from leaving for a long time (leak through the soil seems unlikely). Maintaining constant flow of gas for prolonged time to wash away CO2 should not be a concern either, provided the "grave" has a volume of a few cubic meters, since CO2 concentration will build up rather slow due to breathing and also, if CO2 is lighter than the used gas, it may flow away on its own. No need in any tubes, no need in a tight face mask, etc, just lie in a grave and die with comfort.

So, while harder to construct, this low tech device looks as failproof as possible to me.

 

[Someone123]

I am somewhat paranoid about risks of failure when trying to terminate my life. It is especially scary to survive with some severe damage to my organism which will not allow to try it another time and will force me into years of suffering.

And unfortunately popular peaceful methods often do not seem 100% reliable. If for example I choose Exit Bag, there may be convulsions which can break this device. May be probability of that is rather low, but it still worries me.

I try to think up ways to fix this. Today it came to my mind, perhaps as a half joke, that Exit Bag can be replaced with Exit Grave. If I have a "grave" filled with some gas significantly heavier than air (perhaps one of those relatively inert and nontoxic refrigerants used in air conditioners, or sulfur hexafluoride), it would be very hard to break it in an unconscious state, or to rise from this "grave" somehow when my brain is already seriously damaged. It would not need to be airtight either, some cover at the top should be enough to prevent the heavy gas from leaving for a long time (leak through the soil seems unlikely). Maintaining constant flow of gas for prolonged time to wash away CO2 should not be a concern either, provided the "grave" has a volume of a few cubic meters, since CO2 concentration will build up rather slow due to breathing and also, if CO2 is lighter than the used gas, it may flow away on its own. No need in any tubes, no need in a tight face mask, etc, just lie in a grave and die with comfort.

So, while harder to construct, this low tech device looks as failproof as possible to me.

That might work if you have the energy. skills, and location to do something like this. I would be somewhat concerned about how air currents might affect this if not airtight. I definitely think concerns about the exit bag ripping are valid- there are many reports of this happening, or at least of the seal being broken. You would need to be certain that whatewver gas was use3d is heavier than any other gases around, I think- it would take a lot more expertise than I have to do this, but it souunds like it could work.

 

[SoDead]

By the way, it appears sulfur hexafluoride has an interesting property which can make it even more peaceful: "Sulfur hexafluoride has an anesthetic potency slightly lower than nitrous oxide; it is classified as a mild anesthetic."​

 

[Mashedout]

Is there any data of people dying peacefully from any of these heavy gasses?

 

[SoDead]

Is there any data of people dying peacefully from any of these heavy gasses?

Accidents happen regularly when people go down to some well, lose consciousness and die because some heavier than air gas accumulated there. Sometimes other people see it, try to rescue the victim and die too as a result: https://www.oneindia.com/india/well...d-while-cleaning-a-well-in-thane-2802117.html

I doubt it is so important which gas replaces air, as long as it does not contain oxygen and is not irritating. If it is not important whether you use nitrogen, helium or argon, why other gases should not be fine?

 

[Hateyouprolife]

Accidents happen regularly when people go down to some well, lose consciousness and die because some heavier than air gas accumulated there. Sometimes other people see it, try to rescue the victim and die too as a result: https://www.oneindia.com/india/well...d-while-cleaning-a-well-in-thane-2802117.html

I doubt it is so important which gas replaces air, as long as it does not contain oxygen and is not irritating. If it is not important whether you use nitrogen, helium or argon, why other gases should not be fine?

What about CO2? It has anesthetic effects at conc above 10% and is easily lethal at above 30% .

Carbon Dioxide Dangers in Confined Spaces

Be aware of carbon dioxide within confined spaces at all times - a buildup can cause nausea, unconsciousness and death.

www.pass-training.co.uk

 

[SoDead]

What about CO2? It has anesthetic effects at conc above 10% and is easily lethal at above 30% .

I tried inhaling it. Unfortunately it was irritating to me and caused some discomfort, so I was unable to lose consciousness peacefully.

 

[Hateyouprolife]

I tried inhaling it. Unfortunately it was irritating to me and caused some discomfort, so I was unable to lose consciousness peacefully.

How bad irritation was? I doubt its too bad to overcome.

 

[SoDead]

How bad irritation was? I doubt its too bad to overcome.

It was not too bad but it was hard to breathe freely. CO2 produces a weak acid when combined with water, may be it is the reason.