Exit bag. Convulsions after loss of consciousness.

[snack]

Convulsions after loss of consciousness. I heard that after loss of consciousness convulsions begin and because of them suicide can failed (you can pull the bag off your head, or to push a cylinder so that the hose will take off from under a bag). What should be done to prevent this from happening? What body posture is the best? Lying down? Another question. How to fix the hose so that it does not fall out of the bag. Tape it to your neck?

 

[Jodes]

I'm glad you're asking these questions. That really sounds like an awful way to go

 

[TiredHorse]

My understanding is that those convulsions are possible --or at least significant twitching as the electrical activity in your brain fades. That's why all the resources I saw recommend being sitting up, slightly reclined in a comfortable chair, so it's less likely for you to scrub the bag off your head, as you might if you were lying down and your head lolled about on a pillow.

I also heard it recommended to duct tape the gas cylinder to the leg of your chair, so you wouldn't knock it over. I effectively did that when I made my attempts: I used webbing lash straps to strap the tank to the chair.

I have long hair that I keep in a queue, with an elastic at my nape. I tucked the hose through the elastic, which seemed to work quite well. Though I didn't get far enough to have twitching/convulsions, it seemed very secure. I have also read the recommendation to tape the hose to the inside of the bag. What's more, run the hose up behind you, over your shoulder and into the bag at your nape; that keeps it more clear of your arms, in case they flop about.

I believe much of this is covered in more detail in the Inert Gas megathread.

 

[Jodes]

My understanding is that those convulsions are possible --or at least significant twitching as the electrical activity in your brain fades. That's why all the resources I saw recommend being sitting up, slightly reclined in a comfortable chair, so it's less likely for you to scrub the bag off your head, as you might if you were lying down and your head lolled about on a pillow.

I also heard it recommended to duct tape the gas cylinder to the leg of your chair, so you wouldn't knock it over. I effectively did that when I made my attempts: I used webbing lash straps to strap the tank to the chair.

I have long hair that I keep in a queue, with an elastic at my nape. I tucked the hose through the elastic, which seemed to work quite well. Though I didn't get far enough to have twitching/convulsions, it seemed very secure. I have also read the recommendation to tape the hose to the inside of the bag. What's more, run the hose up behind you, over your shoulder and into the bag at your nape; that keeps it more clear of your arms, in case they flop about.

I believe much of this is covered in more detail in the Inert Gas megathread.

Every post I've read of yours was helpful. You must feel like you've repeated an awful lot, but hearing it in different ways is helpful for more reasons than I could think of but it's reassuring as a minimum, and I'm sure extra details get included. You also answer direct questions, really alleviating a particular angle or fear. I really, really appreciate all your posts and I'm sure it's the same for others @TiredHorse , thank you.

 

[snack]

I'm glad you're asking these questions. That really sounds like an awful way to go

In my opinion, it is much worse to wake up in a hospital with a disability. It is better to think through everything, down to the smallest detail.

 

[Jodes]

In my opinion, it is much worse to wake up in a hospital with a disability. It is better to think through everything, down to the smallest detail.

I'm sure no one wants to. Pressure can lead you to do things in very, very short order
I still don't understand why it should be done sitting up though??

 

[TiredHorse]

I still don't understand why it should be done sitting up though??

I suspect because if you're sitting up, your head won't be pressing the bag against a pillow quite so hard, which would make it more likely to dislodge the bag if your head moves around.