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DSL is back with a new site called "HB"
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I just found the new site HB. I had an old email from a partially completed order from DSL. I replied to that asking for the new site and he answered me. So if you have an old email from DSL this is an option.
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That what worried mee cuz i dont get how he is on vacation for that long because its been 1-2 months and it still says that or he might have just stopped selling it
That what worried mee cuz i dont get how he is on vacation for that long because its been 1-2 months and it still says that or he might have just stopped selling it
That's literally how business works lol. Why do you think he should do it for free? He is providing us a way out of our suffering when the rest of the world won't, and I think that's great. It's beneficial on both ends. We should get the freedom to go out on our own terms, and he understands that. It's not weird, it's life. He helps us, we help him. He provides us stuff that we need, we pay him. Simple stuff really. He's not the only one doing it. Everyone charges for it, nobody does this for free.
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LakeMungoGirl, iguazo falls, sadbh—itstimetogo🤎 and 7 others
He's a hero. He's providing a way to end suffering when our own governments have made it illegal.
That being said, I am in a different situation than most in my late 30s, bedridden and in constant pain from severe Long COVID, for which there will not be a cure for a decade. I have already lived a great life and am about ready to go.
Most of ya'll seem like depressed kids and probably shouldn't rope :)
He's selling it to make money. I doubt he cares what we do with it.
Most of us 'depressed kids' don't have the same privilege of having any potential for a great life. Some people like myself could've lived a decent life if one factor didn't completely flip the switch, like long COVID ... how long have you had it? It just doesn't go away?
That person is taking extraordinary legal risks to do this, has become personally investigated by the BBC and possibly others, and let's not also disregard the time and effort involved. Given the extreme risks and the amount of time, and given that it probably makes getting a normal job harder (because his legal name is now associated with this), I think it's understandable this person charges money.
The real blame is with governments. A suicidal 18 year old who hasn't tried to get better should not be allowed to die via euthenasia and someone who has tried everything and makes an intelligent informed choice after meeting with many doctors should be able to do it. Governments all having free health care and reasonable euthenasia policy would lead to people not offering such products.
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A suicidal 18 year old who hasn't tried to get better should not be allowed to die via euthenasia and someone who has tried everything and makes an intelligent informed choice after meeting with many doctors should be able to do it. Governments all having free health care and reasonable euthenasia policy would lead to people not offering such products.
true but im not agreeing with the all part. each treatment can have side effect and some are even more permenant then the other.
there are to many medications. the journey is to long.
also the waiting queue's are getting longer and longer. euthanasia should have releastic policy when healthcare just can't keep up with the demand.
i dont think we need to be victum of a goverment that fails to even reduce first of all the health care queue or pressure that workers are dealing with.
or even trying to fix the issue with society itself.
true but im not agreeing with the all part. each treatment can have side effect and some are even more permenant then the other.
there are to many medications. the journey is to long.
also the waiting queue's are getting longer and longer. euthanasia should have releastic policy when healthcare just can't keep up with the demand.
i dont think we need to be victum of a goverment that fails to even reduce first of all the health care queue or pressure that workers are dealing with.
or even trying to fix the issue with society itself.
The goverment should keep there nose out of other peoples bussiness. Give the right of choice back to the people and make painless medicaments like nembutal available for those who want it. Protecting people so they call it. Stfu and give us our rights back if you 18 or 50 doesn't matter any human should be allowed a peaceful way out and choice over their own lifes. Not your decision not the goverment not doctors. No their own decision. Now people go out in ways with much f*cking pain. Even animals get dignified way out.
Stop keep humans trapped on the choice of docters and goverments
That person is taking extraordinary legal risks to do this, has become personally investigated by the BBC and possibly others, and let's not also disregard the time and effort involved. Given the extreme risks and the amount of time, and given that it probably makes getting a normal job harder (because his legal name is now associated with this), I think it's understandable this person charges money.
The real blame is with governments. A suicidal 18 year old who hasn't tried to get better should not be allowed to die via euthenasia and someone who has tried everything and makes an intelligent informed choice after meeting with many doctors should be able to do it. Governments all having free health care and reasonable euthenasia policy would lead to people not offering such products.
The goverment should keep there nose out of other peoples bussiness. Give the right of choice back to the people and make painless medicaments like nembutal available for those who want it. Protecting people so they call it. Stfu and give us our rights back if you 18 or 50 doesn't matter any human should be allowed a peaceful way out and choice over their own lifes. Not your decision not the goverment not doctors. No their own decision. Now people go out in ways with much f*cking pain. Even animals get dignified way out.
Stop keep humans trapped on the choice of docters and goverments
I'm pro-choice and actually have SN, and meto. You just joined this month and have 94 posts. Trying too much? Leave me the fuck alone.
Also, when 18 or 19 year olds commit suicide and haven't tried anything, that is the single thing that most brings in the BBC and other journalists going "Oh no this site is so terrible!"
And I'm sorry, there are certain situations in which it's better if someone 18 or 19 doesn't commit suicide. If someone is 19, just experienced their first break-up with a girlfriend, and impulsively wants to die, but will be fine in 6 months and have another girlfriend, yeah, that person probably shouldn't commit suicide.
Also, you're going to be my actual only block on this site. I have no one else blocked. See ya. BLOCKED.
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PsychedeliaSuicide, bananamatcha, RinneOfAragon and 3 others
The goverment should keep there nose out of other peoples bussiness. Give the right of choice back to the people and make painless medicaments like nembutal available for those who want it. Protecting people so they call it. Stfu and give us our rights back if you 18 or 50 doesn't matter any human should be allowed a peaceful way out and choice over their own lifes. Not your decision not the goverment not doctors. No their own decision. Now people go out in ways with much f*cking pain. Even animals get dignified way out.
Stop keep humans trapped on the choice of docters and goverments
the issue with this is some reasoning doesnt make sense. some teen are like: "oh i didnt managed to listen to my favoriet band i guess i have to CTB". there are some dumb fucks that shouldnt doing CTB. ofcourse this is very fictional reasoning but the point is that their reasoning doesnt like out. by your logic somebody that having a psychosis will be able to CTB during that. and that is wrong in my opinion.
should the descision lie to doctors? part but not for everybody. their point of vieuw is mainly medical but not covering the aspect of other things in life like able to to take care of your or having money to take care of yourself.
also both of you need to chill for a bit. this is a discussion and people can give their opinion while you agree or not it doesnt matter.
That person is taking extraordinary legal risks to do this, has become personally investigated by the BBC and possibly others, and let's not also disregard the time and effort involved. Given the extreme risks and the amount of time, and given that it probably makes getting a normal job harder (because his legal name is now associated with this), I think it's understandable this person charges money.
The real blame is with governments. A suicidal 18 year old who hasn't tried to get better should not be allowed to die via euthenasia and someone who has tried everything and makes an intelligent informed choice after meeting with many doctors should be able to do it. Governments all having free health care and reasonable euthenasia policy would lead to people not offering such products.
Ye but it's the same for drug dealers too, that are actually funded by the same government you talk about, and, being an addict is a lot worse imho.
This world is not black and white, its in shades of grey. Thinking you have the right to decide which way is the best for someone else's life reminds me of...politics lol. Anyone here has its own life, own mistakes and own reasons to be here, trying to be pro-life can make you feel good with yourself, but, as I personally proved with my own life, sometimes, it's better to think for yourself and yourself only.
Giving suggestions is okay, I mean I also think that someone should do everything in its power to change its own situation, but, it's subjective and in the end does it really matter?
I'm pro-choice and actually have SN, and meto. You just joined this month and have 94 posts. Trying too much? Leave me the fuck alone.
Also, when 18 or 19 year olds commit suicide and haven't tried anything, that is the single thing that most brings in the BBC and other journalists going "Oh no this site is so terrible!"
And I'm sorry, there are certain situations in which it's better if someone 18 or 19 doesn't commit suicide. If someone is 19, just experienced their first break-up with a girlfriend, and impulsively wants to die, but will be fine in 6 months and have another girlfriend, yeah, that person probably shouldn't commit suicide.
Also, you're going to be my actual only block on this site. I have no one else blocked. See ya. BLOCKED.
You are just to full of yourself, it isn't you or the goverment who should be able to decide for anyone else.
Also i'm not only 1 month on here? I guess it's more like 1 year and after a half year decides to make a account, anyways this is no reason to discredit someones arguments.
Any 18 year old or older is wise enough to choose over their own body. Relationship ending or not.
You probably just some pro lifer supporting bbc news and other sources who can only look from their own point of view. Never dare to look in someone else their shoes.
If you are pro life i wish you a awfull disease without being able to get away from it. Let's see how fast you switch your mind.
Atleast you and the goverment feel the 'power' to choose for others. While they can choose for themselfs. Your just ignorant and selfish
I think you should calm down buddy. There's truth in what @fadedghost is trying to say, and in no way an 18 year old is wise enough to make such a decision based on a single life event.
I am pro choice, but I am also pro carefulness. I agree with you that the choice is ultimately your own, and it should be like that. But what you seem to lack is perspective on the aftermath of suicide. If a government was to supply you with N, I believe you yourself should at least set up your own funds for burial/cremation/cleanup etcetera. On top of that, if it's truly decided, close ones should be in the loop. Ofcourse I realize that from our current situation and societal perspective this seems utopic at the least but it's not something to be taken lightly.
To close off I'd like to suggest you refrain from personally attacking users over a difference in opinion/perspective. Wishing a disease upon somebody is downright disrespectful and I think this is not the place for that.
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I have ordered through WhatsApp twice from him and I am wondering, if I want this new website, do I just message him and say that I've ordered before and interested to know if he's still selling or would he think it's suspicious? Just don't want him to block me
I think you should calm down buddy. There's truth in what @fadedghost is trying to say, and in no way an 18 year old is wise enough to make such a decision based on a single life event.
I am pro choice, but I am also pro carefulness. I agree with you that the choice is ultimately your own, and it should be like that. But what you seem to lack is perspective on the aftermath of suicide. If a government was to supply you with N, I believe you yourself should at least set up your own funds for burial/cremation/cleanup etcetera. On top of that, if it's truly decided, close ones should be in the loop. Ofcourse I realize that from our current situation and societal perspective this seems utopic at the least but it's not something to be taken lightly.
To close off I'd like to suggest you refrain from personally attacking users over a difference in opinion/perspective. Wishing a disease upon somebody is downright disrespectful and I think this is not the place for that.
I was not here to offend anyone, just couldn't bare hold hold my anger in.
These people don't know what real suffering is, it was more hypothetical like here experience it first then we can talk about how you will feel about right of choice.
So in my understanding poor people shouldn't be allowed commiting suicide? They can't pay for funeral or clean ups. Although if they would provide us nembutal clean ups won't be necessary. From my perspective they can just throw my body in a garbage bin
Also, when 18 or 19 year olds commit suicide and haven't tried anything, that is the single thing that most brings in the BBC and other journalists going "Oh no this site is so terrible!"
"Suicide forum linked to 130 deaths still accessible in UK despite ban The media regulator claimed last month it could take no further action against the site, which has 170,000 posts encouraging suicide, because it supposedly blocked UK access. But an investigation by Metro and the Ripple...
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