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liverpoolfan

liverpoolfan

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Jun 10, 2019
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I've seen this discussed before but I wondered what the latest thinking is and whether there is a consensus.

I have* 1 bottle of Pisobental (from A) that has an expiry date of Jan 19 and has been kept in a fridge unopened since 2018 when I got it.

My question is: if I'm a 55yr old 200lb man in pretty good health (only 18% body fat/healthy blood pressure/no co-morbidities etc) will this one bottle of expired Pisobental do the trick?
What's the current best thinking on ways to potentiate it if it's not quite enough to finish me off?

*(I say I 'have it'. It's actually in the fridge in my old house in another country so I can't test it for potency - and of course there's no guarantee it'll get through customs. I'm trying not to worry about that part so much.)

Thanks in advance for any useful advice.
 
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boc

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May 19, 2021
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It would likely be fine but may have degraded a bit over that time. Check the bottle to see if the liquid is cloudy at the bottom which would denote that it may no longer be good.

I would recommend at least another bottle at your weight and considering that the purity might be a bit lower than when initially bought. 1 bottle is kind of the minimum for an average weight person when it's new.
 
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TheNorthernSilence

TheNorthernSilence

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That's a tough question. I can't give any 100% accurate answers. I think the bigger issue would be the fact that you have only one bottle instead of two, especially when considering your weight / overall good health. Liquid should be clear. I would personally give at least 24 hours for the N to take full effect if going with one.

My two bottles from A expired May 2020 and the shelf life should be at least +2 years, I've also kept them in the fridge. I still have confidence in using them.
 
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camus44

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Jul 12, 2020
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Similar question here.

I've got two bottles. Been in a drawer in a cold room for about six months.

They should still work, right?
 
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Goodbye710

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Jul 12, 2020
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Properly stored liquid N lasts 20 years.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/liquid-n-how-to-store-properly.63871/

Prescription med they commonly tell people expiration is within a few years. Overly cautious. Most medication lasts much much longer though. N, properly stored lasts a very long time.

Particles in N means it's going bad.
 
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liverpoolfan

liverpoolfan

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Jun 10, 2019
189
I wasn't aware of the particles thing. Good to know. Thanks.
 
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boc

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May 19, 2021
252
Similar question here.

I've got two bottles. Been in a drawer in a cold room for about six months.

They should still work, right?
Yeah you're fine. Especially with 2 bottles.
 
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liverpoolfan

liverpoolfan

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Jun 10, 2019
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That's a tough question. I can't give any 100% accurate answers. I think the bigger issue would be the fact that you have only one bottle instead of two, especially when considering your weight / overall good health. Liquid should be clear. I would personally give at least 24 hours for the N to take full effect if going with one.

My two bottles from A expired May 2020 and the shelf life should be at least +2 years, I've also kept them in the fridge. I still have confidence in using them.
The reason I only have one bottle is a lady on a Google groups (now defunct) who'd ordered from A thought her order had been confiscated so ordered another. Then both parcels turned up. I was posting about getting some for my dad who had terminal cancer and - this lady just sent me her extra bottles for free. I really do think some of the very best, kindest and most gentle humans are to be found in suicide help groups.
Anyway, Dad decided he only wanted one (god knows why) and ultimately didn't even end up taking it. It got thrown out (not by me) before he died and so I'm just left with one.

Anyway, it seems that, if properly stored and if particles haven't developed, the shelf life isn't the problem. What I should be focusing on is drugs/substances that would potentiate the one bottle. I'm assuming some strong benzos and alcohol would work but I'm open to suggestion if anyone has better ideas.
Thanks.
 
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