Discussion Does AI make anyone else feel more suicidal than before?

[TemporaryToTesting]

AI has completely thrown me back into being actively suicidal when I wasn't before. It's just a complete life-ruiner. I'm unlikely to ever find a job because AI is basically just going to be human but better. It invades absolutely every form of communication online and even in real life with companies using it to make artwork and advertisemenets for their products or whatever. It unironically makes me want to CTB as soon as possible even though I was completely fine before. Fuck AI.

 

[iw2begone]

I fucking hate AI. It's ruined art, ruined journalism, starting to ruin music, and the middle managers at my company are getting excited over the prospect of eliminating jobs with AI. It's sick and unempathetic and I hate it. I hate people for encouraging it.

 

[NonEssential]

I'm pretty sure I chat with Chatgpt about random stuff more than I do with actual people. I've been having fun messaging with it, but at the same time having to see AI slop like art and videos all over the internet can be pretty annoying.

 

[kotonearisato]

AI has completely thrown me back into being actively suicidal when I wasn't before. It's just a complete life-ruiner. I'm unlikely to ever find a job because AI is basically just going to be human but better. It invades absolutely every form of communication online and even in real life with companies using it to make artwork and advertisemenets for their products or whatever. It unironically makes me want to CTB as soon as possible even though I was completely fine before. Fuck AI.

Yeah, it's definitely darkened my already dim view of the world. I absolutely hate it and wish generative AI didn't exist. It also makes me feel like.. what's the point of getting better when humanity is never going to get better, or easier to live with? Because AI could have been solely used for revolutionary things - medical science being a big one, but even things like creating new traffic patterns for large cities - but instead the world decided to use it to ruin people's creative lives. Art, music, voice acting, writing... I myself have even had my writing scraped without consent to feed these garbage machines. I hate them, and I hate they come with ruining our environment at a faster pace on top of it all.

 

[Apathy79]

I think it's in extremely early stages. It's like Dial Up AI or Commodore 64 AI currently. The way it will completely transform our entire lives will be similar in scale to before and after internet/computers I suspect. Whether it's good or bad is a complete guess at this point - we've only seen the first 1% of what it will change. I assume there's going to be incredible good and incredible bad that comes with it - just a matter of which wins out over the long haul.

On jobs, just because it was mentioned, if 80% of all jobs disappear and the government has to account with that with entirely different employment and taxation structures, the result if handled well could be people only work if they want to earn more than the standard everyone gets, which I expect would be high if robots are doing everything. The costs for everything come way down and the few companies making all the money might be taxed accordingly or acquired by the government. I mean there are positive visions if you take longer term horizons. But they require someone not figuring out how to use it to destroy us in the meantime.

 

[iw2begone]

I think it's in extremely early stages. It's like Dial Up AI or Commodore 64 AI currently. The way it will completely transform our entire lives will be similar in scale to before and after internet/computers I suspect. Whether it's good or bad is a complete guess at this point - we've only seen the first 1% of what it will change. I assume there's going to be incredible good and incredible bad that comes with it - just a matter of which wins out over the long haul.

On jobs, just because it was mentioned, if 80% of all jobs disappear and the government has to account with that with entirely different employment and taxation structures, the result if handled well could be people only work if they want to earn more than the standard everyone gets, which I expect would be high if robots are doing everything. The costs for everything come way down and the few companies making all the money might be taxed accordingly or acquired by the government. I mean there are positive visions if you take longer term horizons. But they require someone not figuring out how to use it to destroy us in the meantime.

I have no confidence they will handle it well. Jobs have become insanely more productive over the last century and yet we're forced to work the same hours for barely rising wages that don't keep up with inflation at all.

In an ideal world, it would only improve our lives. In a world where we're still fighting over the rights of women, not so much.

 

[TemporaryToTesting]

the result if handled well could be people only work if they want to earn more than the standard everyone gets

Only issue is is that this is relying on the big assumption that they even want to keep people around. Technologies have always been made available to the privileged first and the peasants second; why would the modern elite not just opt to wall themselves in with an artificial slave while making the common folk fight until there are none left?

UBIs sound great on paper but they're a fantasy because greed will simply win over it.

 

[bankai]

Bill Gates addressed this recently. He said in a few years, everyone will get a universal basic income. AI will take over almost all the jobs.

 

[TemporaryToTesting]

Bill Gates addressed this recently. He said in a few years, everyone will get a universal basic income.

Bill Gates is very much an outlier when it comes to billionaire philanthropy and definitely does not speak for all billionaires. What his successors do, let alone what his competitors in companies like Google do, is not up to him and I would be willing to bet a not-so-insignificant amount of money on his prediction being flat out wrong.

Also doesn't help he's like 70 and will probably die before this even becomes a reality.

Also also doesn't help that he's a part of the class that stands to benefit to appease the lower classes until he gets what he wants, regardless of his prior actions.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Bill Gates addressed this recently. He said in a few years, everyone will get a universal basic income. AI will take over almost all the jobs.

This would surely be required just as much by the wealthy, ruling class as those in poverty. If the average person has no money, how will they afford to pay for their new Tesla etc? Who will the wealthy sell their products and services to? Asides from one another?

Robots selling to other robots. That's kind of funny. I wonder if there will be muggings. Robot crime, if they start to break their protocols.

No idea where this money will come from though. I can't see the rich wanting to support the poor. Especially if they aren't working at all. The unemployed aren't exactly praised in society.

But, no. Asides from the novelty value of watching robots wander about, I have very little desire to witness the future. Besides, there will always be the usual unscrupulous CEO's pulling the strings of the robots to maximise their own profits- even if it means other people suffering. I highly doubt that AI will enable some utopia where everyone gets treated equally. I reckon we'll see the same rich/ poor divides we always have. Why would the rich and powerful give away all their money and power?

 

[Apathy79]

Yeah the divide won't go away. It will get wider. Much wider. But the base "should" be much higher if executed properly, because almost everyone will be there and the cost of almost everything should be practically zero (if the robots are doing everything in every step of the process). I don't know about a few years - that seems fast - but eventually I can't imagine some sort of UBI not being the norm everywhere, even in the self interest of the few with all the money avoiding mass revolts. Of course it is all extremely highly speculative now - the reality is no-one really has any idea how it will evolve that far down the line, but it's almost certain to change vast swathes of our lived experience.