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Do you like the word suicide?
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I like the word suicide because I want to do it and I fantasize about it everyday. But I don't want to be called a suicide, if I commit suicide, I want people to call me a suicide victim instead.
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Talvikki, eggsausagerice, Long Live Me ! and 5 others
i kind of prefer the bluntness of that, or a phrase like "killing yourself" over a euphemism like CTB
i guess some people try the most peaceful method they can and take measures to calm their brain down like that & have their reasons
if someone else chose a method that is more physically involved / 'violent', a euphamism might not feel like it says very much towards an understanding of what ur actually doing
i don't know
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Forveleth, eggsausagerice, lament. and 2 others
I don't mind it. I probably prefer: 'They took their own life.' I'm not even massively opposed to: 'They committed suicide.' I know people don't like the 'commit' bit because it makes it sound like a crime but, I think it also relates to being committed- sure to do something.
Weirdly, I'm not so keen on the whole: 'Victim of suicide.' Suicide is a choice. You can fall victim to a disease or a crime. We are victims of a life that made us want to suicide certainly but, I see suicide itself as the way to free myself of that life.
I'm not madly keen on being viewed as 'vulnerable' though. I feel like 'victim' smacks of vulnerability. I personally see suicide as a brave choice to make. If I do it, I won't be a 'victim' of it. I will have chosen it because I felt it to be my best option- despite the risks.
I suppose the other thing is, I only very initially experienced ideation as intrusive thoughts. I very quickly decided that they were reasonable thoughts to have in my situation. I still feel that. I don't experience these thoughts as a betrayel of my mind or as if my mind is diseased and I may at some point fall victim to my thoughts.
I could be wrong of course. I could have a diseased mind. Nothing I've done has fixed it though and, I'm not willing to put my trust in doctors who (I tend to believe) don't actually know how the brain works anyway! Regardless, I've been this way most of my life. It feels a part of me I'm not even willing to let go of.
I suppose also, because I don't feel ashamed that I may suicide one day, I don't feel offended by the word either. I understand that it isn't something everyone understands or accepts but then, I feel like they must have lived a different sort of life where it didn't appeal to them so much.
I have my own ideas/ standards for myself on when I feel it will be justafiable for me to do it. That's the other issue I suppose. It's probably a taboo word because we know the damage it can cause those left behind. Maybe the shame element too. I hope to wait until those closest to me have already passed so- I'm hoping to reduce all that. There won't be so many left to bring grief or shame to.
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Peerless_Cucumber, catfriend, lament. and 1 other person
Yes, I think the word accurately and cleanly depicts what I will go through, without putting on airs. That being said I don't want to be called "a suicide", I'd rather they say "he committed suicide", I am a person not a statistic.
I doubt I'll care what is said about me once I've gone ... I don't much care now, whilst I'm still alive. In general terms I don't think of folk who kill themselves as victims, more as heroes who viewed their options and took decisive action to achieve what they viewed as their best choice.
1650s, "deliberate killing of oneself," from Modern Latin suicidium "suicide," from Latin sui "of oneself" (genitive of se "self"), from PIE *s(u)w-o- "one's own," from root *s(w)e- (see idiom) + -cidium "a killing," from caedere "to slay" (from PIE root *kae-id- "to strike").
Probably an English coinage; the word was much maligned by Latin purists because it "may as well seem to participate of sus, a sow, as of the pronoun sui" [Phillips, "New World of Words," 1671].
The meaning "person who kills himself deliberately" is attested from 1728. In Anglo-Latin, the term for "one who commits suicide" was felo-de-se, literally "one guilty concerning himself." It was used occasionally as a verb 19c.
In England, suicides were legally criminal if of age and sane, but not if judged to have been mentally deranged. The criminal ones were mutilated by stake and given degrading burial in highways until 1823.
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lamy's sacred sleep, cemeteryismyhome, Forveleth and 1 other person
i do. from a young age, that word has had the strangest allure... or at least a nice ring to it. suu-ahh-side.
more so, i share the views of @Forever Sleep in regards to the language used around suicide. negative words like 'commit', 'victim', etc., are not helpful, i feel.
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lamy's sacred sleep, eggsausagerice, Peerless_Cucumber and 1 other person
I like it a lot more than "unaliving". I'm also not a fan of the word victim when it comes to suicide. If I choose to do it it was my choice. Not someone else's. I can't be my own victim. At least that doesn't make a lot of sense in my mind. I'd rather people know I chose it willingly than think my depression made me do it or sth and I had no choice in the matter.
I think it's a fine word. I really dislike the phrase committing suicide and would prefer completed suicide, suicided, died by suicide, or killed themself.
I've got mixed feelings about it, on one hand the word itself has alot of stigma around it (mainly in the awkwardness when it's mentioned) but on the other hand like others have said it's alright because it's blunt and forces people to see that it is a serious thing.
I'm indifferent to the word itself, but I really dislike the idea of being considered a "suicide victim". It would be a conscious choice that I 100% own, I wouldn't be a victim in any sense.
I like to call things what they are, no need to soften or sugar coat it. It is a literal Latin translation of killing yourself, and that isthe total act. I do not think there is any better word for it at all.
Also fuck this censorship bullshit that TikTok and YouTube and all that social media force on everyone. It's going back to the same paradigm of, "Oh, we can't say the words that upset people because we don't want to face it as a society". People kill themselves because they're miserable. If that offends you, maybe you should do something about it instead of trying to hide the concept.
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carlbot, LigottiIsRight and cemeteryismyhome
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