Do I have the correct Nitrogen regulator?

[Butterfly65]

My nitrogen tank regulator has one guage it says CHF on it and it has a click dial for me to adjust it to whatever number I'm wanting ie: 15 or 17 or 25 ect.. the psi on it goes up to 3000 do I have the correct regulator?

 

[profoundexperience]

1. It's better when people attach pictures (rather than just describing hardware).
2. There is (for all practical purposes) a standard, recommended flow-rate for inert gas/exit bag... typically this is expressed in lpm (liters per minute). Do you know what this number is?
3. "CFH" is a different unit of flow than lpm. Did you know what "CFH" meant when you obtained the regulator? What you have may be ok/workable (my regulator is in CFH), but it's important that you have done enough research to understand the science of what's going on. It's not terribly difficult, but it's essential to understand it well.
4. It is more helpful if you try to research and explain what you're thinking/your plan and how you intend it to work... rather than just asking if a particular piece of hardware is "correct". Why? Because, from your question, it is difficult for us to discern if you really understand all the fundamentals involved.

I saw elsewhere that you asked "what could go wrong" with this method and "why weren't more people discussing the inert gas method". This method is very good for many reasons, but requires some skill (not terribly difficult, but takes time). Have you read the megathread? Have you used this site's search function to find examples where others have had issues? Ideally, you want to get to a level of understanding — where you have at least ideas of what could go wrong and ideas of fixes.

Wishing you great wellness!

 

[Greenberg]

My nitrogen tank regulator has one guage it says CHF on it and it has a click dial for me to adjust it to whatever number I'm wanting ie: 15 or 17 or 25 ect.. the psi on it goes up to 3000 do I have the correct regulator?

If the highest CFH setting is 25 on your nitrogen regulator, you are just shy of optimum flow. 25CFH is equivalent to 11.8LPM. It is up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading to a higher flow regulator. Cheers

 

[Butterfly65]

If the highest CFH setting is 25 on your nitrogen regulator, you are just shy of optimum flow. 25CFH is equivalent to 11.8LPM. It is up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading to a higher flow regulator. Cheers

Thank you, no it goes higher then 25 will I need to set it over 25?

1. It's better when people attach pictures (rather than just describing hardware).
2. There is (for all practical purposes) a standard, recommended flow-rate for inert gas/exit bag... typically this is expressed in lpm (liters per minute). Do you know what this number is?
3. "CFH" is a different unit of flow than lpm. Did you know what "CFH" meant when you obtained the regulator? What you have may be ok/workable (my regulator is in CFH), but it's important that you have done enough research to understand the science of what's going on. It's not terribly difficult, but it's essential to understand it well.
4. It is more helpful if you try to research and explain what you're thinking/your plan and how you intend it to work... rather than just asking if a particular piece of hardware is "correct". Why? Because, from your question, it is difficult for us to discern if you really understand all the fundamentals involved.

I saw elsewhere that you asked "what could go wrong" with this method and "why weren't more people discussing the inert gas method". This method is very good for many reasons, but requires some skill (not terribly difficult, but takes time). Have you read the megathread? Have you used this site's search function to find examples where others have had issues? Ideally, you want to get to a level of understanding — where you have at least ideas of what could go wrong and ideas of fixes.

Wishing you great wellness!

Thank you, yes I've been reading and researching this method for a year now. Read all the books and the threads here. A friend of mine sent me the photo of the regulator that I purchased because he was using the same one and felt this one would be easiest because you just set the CHF dial at the number you want. My CHF dial goes all the way up to 60
Sorry the photo I tried to attach is not clear I am trying again.

If the highest CFH setting is 25 on your nitrogen regulator, you are just shy of optimum flow. 25CFH is equivalent to 11.8LPM. It is up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading to a higher flow regulator. Cheers

I am attaching a photo of my regulator the CHF goes up to 60 on the one gauge there is the psi goes up to 3000.
Are you able to see the attachment?
Are you able to see the attachment?

If the highest CFH setting is 25 on your nitrogen regulator, you are just shy of optimum flow. 25CFH is equivalent to 11.8LPM. It is up to you to decide if it is worth upgrading to a higher flow regulator. Cheers

Can I set it to 30 CHF?

 

[profoundexperience]

I've been reading and researching this method for a year now. Read all the books and the threads here.

Excellent!

Then you (hopefully) might be able to answer your own questions... please give it a try... (I'm not trying to be difficult... I deeply care, so I want to make sure you know exactly what you're doing.)

1. What is the flow-rate that is generally recommended in the books you've read? In lpm (liters per minute) is fine...
2. What does the term "CFH" stand for?

It does look like that regulator can work, and I'd like you to at least try to tell us what setting you think you should use... and why. Not by guessing... but by math (we will help if you don't know how... but please make an attempt).

The PSI (pounds per square inch) just tells you how full the tank is. It's ~equivalent to the fuel gage on a car.

Have you obtained a cylinder yet? What are it's specs?

 

[Butterfly65]

Excellent!

Then you (hopefully) might be able to answer your own questions... please give it a try... (I'm not trying to be difficult... I deeply care, so I want to make sure you know exactly what you're doing.)

1. What is the flow-rate that is generally recommended in the books you've read? In lpm (liters per minute) is fine...
2. What does the term "CFH" stand for?

It does look like that regulator can work, and I'd like you to at least try to tell us what setting you think you should use... and why. Not by guessing... but by math (we will help if you don't know how... but please make an attempt).

The PSI (pounds per square inch) just tells you how full the tank is. It's ~equivalent to the fuel gage on a car.

Have you obtained a cylinder yet? What are it's specs?

I don't know much about regulators only what I have read in the final exit book and what was instructed to do. Also as I've said my Friend recommend this regulator and that's why I got it. I am not a well woman I'm 56 and in extremely bad health chronic pain and bedridden for the most part. I'm also having some terrible financial and life circumstances going on. I really need support right now. I have a 20 cu ft tank with industrial grade nitrogen that I was able to get from airgas. I made my hood by watching doing it with betty. All I want to know at this point is if I should set the dial on my regulator to 25 or 30 or even higher than that as it goes up to 60. Thanks.

 

[profoundexperience]

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description). If you can take a picture of the description of the regulator on its box (part number, etc. we can maybe look it up).
6. Hood by Betty = excellent, in my opinion.

 

[Butterfly65]

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description).

My regular is for nitrogen. Thanks.

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description).
6. Hood by Betty = excellent, in my opinion.

I could really use some support/friendship during this time. Not so much tech stuff I think I've got all that going ok. I haven't done a dress rehearsal yet. I don't want to waste gas so been putting that off. I only have a few months left in which to execute my exit, I'll be loosing my income and residence on top of my health issues.

 

[Into The Void]

15 LPM is recommended in many suicide books. Bing search - 15 Liters per minute in cubic foot per hour Answer is 31.7832 cubic feet / hour So 30 to 35 CFH is recommended.

Though nitrogen death doesn't seem as peaceful as the peaceful pill handbook says. Have you seen the video of the pig that is given nitrogen and it dies a violent death, by convulsing, and squealing?

 

[Butterfly65]

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description). If you can take a picture of the description of the regulator on its box (part number, etc. we can maybe look it up).
6. Hood by Betty = excellent, in my opinion.

The regular box is long gone but I did get it from Amazon so I can find that info and post it here.

15 LPM is recommended in many suicide books. Bing search - 15 Liters per minute in cubic foot per hour Answer is 31.7832 cubic feet / hour So 30 to 35 CFH is recommended.

Though nitrogen death doesn't seem as peaceful as the peaceful pill handbook says. Have you seen the video of the pig that is given nitrogen and it dies a violent death, by convulsing, and squealing?

Yes I have seen that video, but I think the pig seemed to be suffering because he was trying to stay up and felt himself going down and that distressed him.

 

[Into The Void]

One can help prevent many of the negative side effects with this method by using a muscle relaxant.

 

[profoundexperience]

My regular [regulator] is for nitrogen. ... The regular box is long gone but I did get it from Amazon so I can find that info and post it here.

As long as you're sure it's a nitrogen calibrated regulator... then if it was me, I would use the "30 CFH" setting.

At that setting, with a 20 CF cylinder, you should have 40 minutes of flow. The PPeH recommends an absolute minimum of 15 minutes.

It's important that your connections are tight and that if you do a test (recommended) you make it quick and make sure both valves (on your regulator and on the tank) are completely off afterwards. I used a Sharpie to mark the exact position of my tank's valve before opening it the first time... so I could make sure to shut it off to at least the same position.

I could really use some support/friendship during this time. Not so much tech stuff I think I've got all that going ok.

I plan to be going soon. I truly wish you well and know there are many others here that can give you that support... just ask in the forum.

I haven't done a dress rehearsal yet. I don't want to waste gas so been putting that off.

It is a good idea to do a full rehearsal, in my opinion (others may disagree). The key is to make it very brief and make sure the tank's valve is fully closed afterwards.

One thing that surprised me in doing my practice run was the level of noise.
****

Have you seen the video of the pig that is given nitrogen and it dies a violent death, by convulsing, and squealing?

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

Have you seen the BBC documentary "How to Kill a Human Being?" Their final finding was that inert gas was probably the most humane way...

Hypoxia discussion starts maybe 25-30 minutes into the program and it covers inert gas near the very end.

 

[lofticries]

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

But honestly the pig has no idea what is going on. I mean if you were just quietly eating your breakfast one day and then all of a sudden you started losing consciousness with no idea what is going on you'd panic too.

 

[Butterfly65]

One can help prevent many of the negative side effects with this method by using a muscle relaxant.

I have xanax that I take for my regular anxiety anyway. That and a bottle of wine I've been saving for a special occasion. Just a few sips though as I'm not a drinker. The only issue I have is having to do it alone with no one to sit by me and comfort me.

As long as you're sure it's a nitrogen calibrated regulator... then if it was me, I would use the "30 CFH" setting.

At that setting, with a 20 CF cylinder, you should have 40 minutes of flow. The PPeH recommends an absolute minimum of 15 minutes.

It's important that your connections are tight and that if you do a test (recommended) you make it quick and make sure both valves (on your regulator and on the tank) are completely off afterwards. I used a Sharpie to mark the exact position of my tank's valve before opening it the first time... so I could make sure to shut it off to at least the same position.

I plan to be going soon. I truly wish you well and know there are many others here that can give you that support... just ask in the forum.

It is a good idea to do a full rehearsal, in my opinion (others may disagree). The key is to make it very brief and make sure the tank's valve is fully closed afterwards.

One thing that surprised me in doing my practice run was the level of noise.
****

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

Have you seen the BBC documentary "How to Kill a Human Being?" Their final finding was that inert gas was probably the most humane way...

Hypoxia discussion starts maybe 25-30 minutes into the program and it covers inert gas near the very end.

I have xanax that I take for my regular anxiety anyway. That and a bottle of wine I've been saving for a special occasion. Just a few sips though as I'm not a drinker. The only issue I have is having to do it alone with no one to sit by me and comfort me.

Yes it is calibrated for nitrogen and I will double check on that by looking back at my order history.

As long as you're sure it's a nitrogen calibrated regulator... then if it was me, I would use the "30 CFH" setting.

At that setting, with a 20 CF cylinder, you should have 40 minutes of flow. The PPeH recommends an absolute minimum of 15 minutes.

It's important that your connections are tight and that if you do a test (recommended) you make it quick and make sure both valves (on your regulator and on the tank) are completely off afterwards. I used a Sharpie to mark the exact position of my tank's valve before opening it the first time... so I could make sure to shut it off to at least the same position.

I plan to be going soon. I truly wish you well and know there are many others here that can give you that support... just ask in the forum.

It is a good idea to do a full rehearsal, in my opinion (others may disagree). The key is to make it very brief and make sure the tank's valve is fully closed afterwards.

One thing that surprised me in doing my practice run was the level of noise.
****

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

Have you seen the BBC documentary "How to Kill a Human Being?" Their final finding was that inert gas was probably the most humane way...

Hypoxia discussion starts maybe 25-30 minutes into the program and it covers inert gas near the very end.

I think it's oklahoma that the law has been passed to start using nitrogen for death row inmates.

 

[profoundexperience]

Thanks, @desolatexdevon... that's a great example!! Helium was very fast acting (as expected)!

I think it would have seemed even more compassionate/smoother if the pig had been lying down.

I was interested in what they were saying in German, so I did a Google Translate (below, bolds & color are added by me).

Kinda off-putting that one of their objectives was improved meat quality... but the fact that they're achieving better meat is a clear indication that there was a lot less suffering/stress on the pig:
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klaus tröger has been researching this for years

alternatives and finally there is a helium instead of co2 as anesthetic gas on

he and his team are building a federally owned max rubner institute in kulmbach

test facility on he wants to show us how helium anesthesia works

this pig should be dreamed of without suffering

helium is lighter than air it is written in a plexiglass bell over the animal

so switzerland points to a clown being heard here is otherwise relative

calm and little stressed by the entrance that means it is a good one

condition for the care that follows immediately the bell jar is lowered

the animal will soon be unable to breathe

now the animal is 98 percent but has bought and unaffected

on the clown show next you don't see any breathing based on the animal

do not turn your head upwards it does not notice that the oxygen is missing now it catches

to sway and that is a sign of the beginning of unconsciousness

at the moment when the lateral position reaches that it is already twisting the

eyes you can already assume that you are unconscious that is one

meaning as it should be the pig notices and feels nothing

that's what a consumer actually feels under a numb

presents and not what is done in our practice is what the sufferers

animals, namely, it is still just a test facility that poses a challenge

no helium should be lost in an application on an industrial scale, because that

gas is expensive but the anesthetic effect is convincing

ingenious reflex is negative so the touch because korneli doesn't solve a song

ruled out and the nasal septum is now also negative for the animal

deeply saddened by the end of bleeding, the pig does not notice anything and in his blood

there are also no increased stress hormones this animal became animal-friendly

killed without stress without pain but that is more expensive than the usual one

anesthesia the industry will only do this if it is worthwhile and if it could

worthwhile because the meat quality is much better

the meat is nice and dark red the ham has an effect

all in all, this speaks for a very good meat quality the muscles twitch

even a sign of less stress before death i have that

then know I was actually interested in it as a brief brand

meat tasted so it was very tender and you almost had the impression of being one

You can't buy pork anywhere

the meat of animals that have been stunned with helium is excellent

this is also confirmed by the first scientific studies

larger studies are of course still available from klaus krüger hopes the higher one

Ultimately, meat quality could be the key to success

that confirms then this method will come because if the first big one

If such a system is installed, the others only have two options

either dragging or closing gently to fall asleep in a gracious

anesthesia in the future could be millions

pigs that we eat are really slaughtered without suffering

 

[Butterfly65]

As long as you're sure it's a nitrogen calibrated regulator... then if it was me, I would use the "30 CFH" setting.

At that setting, with a 20 CF cylinder, you should have 40 minutes of flow. The PPeH recommends an absolute minimum of 15 minutes.

It's important that your connections are tight and that if you do a test (recommended) you make it quick and make sure both valves (on your regulator and on the tank) are completely off afterwards. I used a Sharpie to mark the exact position of my tank's valve before opening it the first time... so I could make sure to shut it off to at least the same position.

I plan to be going soon. I truly wish you well and know there are many others here that can give you that support... just ask in the forum.

It is a good idea to do a full rehearsal, in my opinion (others may disagree). The key is to make it very brief and make sure the tank's valve is fully closed afterwards.

One thing that surprised me in doing my practice run was the level of noise.
****

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

Have you seen the BBC documentary "How to Kill a Human Being?" Their final finding was that inert gas was probably the most humane way...

Hypoxia discussion starts maybe 25-30 minutes into the program and it covers inert gas near the very end.

Too bad we can't all have access to the altitude training chamber.

As long as you're sure it's a nitrogen calibrated regulator... then if it was me, I would use the "30 CFH" setting.

At that setting, with a 20 CF cylinder, you should have 40 minutes of flow. The PPeH recommends an absolute minimum of 15 minutes.

It's important that your connections are tight and that if you do a test (recommended) you make it quick and make sure both valves (on your regulator and on the tank) are completely off afterwards. I used a Sharpie to mark the exact position of my tank's valve before opening it the first time... so I could make sure to shut it off to at least the same position.

I plan to be going soon. I truly wish you well and know there are many others here that can give you that support... just ask in the forum.

It is a good idea to do a full rehearsal, in my opinion (others may disagree). The key is to make it very brief and make sure the tank's valve is fully closed afterwards.

One thing that surprised me in doing my practice run was the level of noise.
****

That is not what I've seen. Although some convulsions are possible, they generally happen after loss of consciousness. Are you sure that they used an inert gas? Could you please provide a link?

Have you seen the BBC documentary "How to Kill a Human Being?" Their final finding was that inert gas was probably the most humane way...

Hypoxia discussion starts maybe 25-30 minutes into the program and it covers inert gas near the very end.

This was a great video. Shows how simple and painless the nitrogen method is.
Here is a link to my regulator it's not specifically for nitrogen but I think argon.
Amazon product ASIN B015093B56

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description). If you can take a picture of the description of the regulator on its box (part number, etc. we can maybe look it up).
6. Hood by Betty = excellent, in my opinion.

@Profound experience.. I posted the Amazon link to my regulator. It appears to be for argon but I've read it can also work with nitrogen too? It is the easiest regulator for me, with it's dial in number 30 the regulators with the double guage with no dial to set a number would be difficult to me to try to be having gas coming out trying to calibrate the correct flow on my own while worrying about getting the bag on ect.. if my regulator will not work is there a simple one click dial one that I can purchase that's like the one that I have? I trusted the friend who led me to this regulator and he has since CTB so I can not reach him.

 

[Greenberg]

Based on your web link of the regulator, you have purchased a click-style industrial Argon regulator. Medical regulators are never denoted with CFH flowrates. Incidentally, Argon has a higher molecular weight than Nitrogen. You would need to make a slight adjustment in the flowrate to compensate for the difference in molecular weights. There is a reference table on my blog to guide you through the calculations.

 

[Butterfly65]

Based on your web link of the regulator, you have purchased a click-style industrial Argon regulator. Medical regulators are never denoted with CFM flowrates. Incidentally, Argon has a higher molecular weight than Nitrogen. You would need to make a slight adjustment in the flowrate to compensate for the difference in molecular weights. There is a reference table on my blog to guide you through the calculations.

@Greenberg would I just need to set the CFH to 30 or is that not enough? Are you talking about something else that I would need to do? I'm not tech savvy and am struggling badly I'm not sure how to deal with this as the other regulators without a click adjuster that have just the two guages seem to complicated for me.

Ok. I'm very sorry for your situation/suffering.

1. 15 lpm (liters per minute) is the generally recommended flow-rate and is the rate recommended in the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
2. "CFH" stands for "cubic feet per hour".
3. 1 (one) lpm ~= 2.1 CFH.
4. So 15 lpm = 31.5 CFH... 30 is close enough and should be fine, provided...
5. IS YOUR REGULATOR CALIBRATED FOR NITROGEN OR SOME OTHER GAS? (what gas it was setup for was not clear from your pictures/description). If you can take a picture of the description of the regulator on its box (part number, etc. we can maybe look it up).
6. Hood by Betty = excellent, in my opinion.

@profound experience I'm sorry I really thought my regulator was for nitrogen. Now I don't know what to do as I would not be able to use a regulator with the two guages and no way to just one click in the setting I need.

 

[Greenberg]

Okay, here is the correct flowrate on your Argon regulator: 26.40CFH. If your regulator has continuous flow between settings, you can set it in between 25 and 30CFH. If not, set it to 30CFH but please make sure your 20cf tank is full.

 

[profoundexperience]

I concur with @Greenberg:

1. You may use your argon calibrated regulator to flow nitrogen.
2. In order to get 15 lpm of nitrogen out (the recommendation)... I calculate you would optimally set your argon regulator to ~26.6 CFM (difference between me and Greenberg may be different tables used or rounding errors... assume he's probably right).
3. BUT, since I understand that your regulator is a click style... you should probably use 30 CFM. Which means rather than 15 lpm of nitrogen coming out you're closer to 17 lpm...
4. Which means your tank will be used faster ~= 35 minutes of flow rather than the 40 I said before. That's why Greenberg advises that you make sure that your tank is full. How? When you attach the regulator and open the main valve on the tank — it should have the PSI level on your meter that your gas provider filled it to = it is 20 cubic-feet filled ONLY AT a certain PSI pressure level. Just like a gas tank on a car, as that PSI number goes down... you will have fewer cubic-feet of nitrogen remaining. If you've never opened it, and you got it from a reputable place, I can almost guarantee it is right/ok/full... but you should see the right PSI for yourself when you first turn it on.

Sorry, that's all the help I can provide... I wish you great wellness!

 

[Butterfly65]

Okay, here is the correct flowrate on your Argon regulator: 26.40CFH. If your regulator has continuous flow between settings, you can set it in between 25 and 30CFH. If not, set it to 30CFH but please make sure your 20cf tank is full.

@Greenberg Thank you so very much. If possible, could you be of any emotional support to me just as a friend in this time that I'm going through because as I'm sure you know finding others you trust to talk to about such matters isn't easy. If so how can I reach you privately? I'm not sure the policy here about exchange if e mail, phone numbers ect. Is. If not it's ok I understand.

I concur with @Greenberg:

1. You may use your argon calibrated regulator to flow nitrogen.
2. In order to get 15 lpm of nitrogen out (the recommendation)... I calculate you would optimally set your argon regulator to ~26.6 CFM (difference between me and Greenberg may be different tables used or rounding errors... assume he's probably right).
3. BUT, since I understand that your regulator is a click style... you should probably use 30 CFM. Which means rather than 15 lpm of nitrogen coming out you're closer to 17 lpm...
4. Which means your tank will be used faster ~= 35 minutes of flow rather than the 40 I said before. That's why Greenberg advises that you make sure that your tank is full. How? When you attach the regulator and open the main valve on the tank — it should have the PSI level on your meter that your gas provider filled it to = it is 20 cubic-feet filled ONLY AT a certain PSI pressure level. Just like a gas tank on a car, as that PSI number goes down... you will have fewer cubic-feet of nitrogen remaining. If you've never opened it, and you got it from a reputable place, I can almost guarantee it is right/ok/full... but you should see the right PSI for yourself when you first turn it on.

Sorry, that's all the help I can provide... I wish you great wellness!

@profound experience thank you! What should my gauge read when I turn it on to be sure it's full?

I concur with @Greenberg:

1. You may use your argon calibrated regulator to flow nitrogen.
2. In order to get 15 lpm of nitrogen out (the recommendation)... I calculate you would optimally set your argon regulator to ~26.6 CFM (difference between me and Greenberg may be different tables used or rounding errors... assume he's probably right).
3. BUT, since I understand that your regulator is a click style... you should probably use 30 CFM. Which means rather than 15 lpm of nitrogen coming out you're closer to 17 lpm...
4. Which means your tank will be used faster ~= 35 minutes of flow rather than the 40 I said before. That's why Greenberg advises that you make sure that your tank is full. How? When you attach the regulator and open the main valve on the tank — it should have the PSI level on your meter that your gas provider filled it to = it is 20 cubic-feet filled ONLY AT a certain PSI pressure level. Just like a gas tank on a car, as that PSI number goes down... you will have fewer cubic-feet of nitrogen remaining. If you've never opened it, and you got it from a reputable place, I can almost guarantee it is right/ok/full... but you should see the right PSI for yourself when you first turn it on.

Sorry, that's all the help I can provide... I wish you great wellness!

I thought Greenberg was a girl :)

 

[profoundexperience]

@profound experience thank you!

You're welcome. May you be free from suffering, @Butterfly65...

What should my gauge read when I turn it on to be sure it's full?

There are industry standards, but best you check with the supplier = they should be able to tell you exactly what their tank is filled to.

I thought Greenberg was a girl :)

I thought (some time in the past) @Greenberg referred to themselves as male. Big apologies if I was mistaken!!

 

[Butterfly65]

You're welcome. May you be free from suffering, @Butterfly65...

There are industry standards, but best you check with the supplier = they should be able to tell you exactly what their tank is filled to.

I thought (some time in the past) @Greenberg referred to themselves as male. Big apologies if I was mistaken!!

You were right!

 

[Kurt]

15 LPM is recommended in many suicide books. Bing search - 15 Liters per minute in cubic foot per hour Answer is 31.7832 cubic feet / hour So 30 to 35 CFH is recommended.

Though nitrogen death doesn't seem as peaceful as the peaceful pill handbook says. Have you seen the video of the pig that is given nitrogen and it dies a violent death, by convulsing, and squealing?

Arg!...What Pig Video? Is this a concern for us humans? If you or anyone has further info on this, please comment. ....

Arg!...What Pig Video? Is this a concern for us humans? If you or anyone has further info on this, please comment. ....

Ah, patience and further scrolling! Good, I'm thinking to myself WTF no one is addressing this poor pig thing? :-)