Venting DMT before CTB

[Endstati0n]

It is said that breaking through on DMT is very similar to a NDE. Since i'm going to CTB soon, i really have nothing to lose.

 

[FF777]

i've always been too scared to try DMT.. i had a 5.1 gram mushroom trip once that was scary as all hell where it felt like i was being pulled in to this portal in the sky and i felt like going through it was going to cause ego loss and it was so scary and i was mentally trying to claw my way from being pulled in to it and tried to keep my self grounded in reality.. i like light doses of mushrooms but not heavy doses..

but any way, so i don't know how much drug experience you have but i want you to keep in mind that things like ego loss are going to feel so much more real when you are actually experiencing them than just thinking about it.. you know?..... like when people hear about being in space and meeting aliens while on DMT some people think "wow that sounds wicked cool, floating around in space and seeing cool aliens", but when it is really happening it is super realistic and it isn't going to seem like a fun little fluffy space adventure any more when you are REALLY ACTUALLY THERE, you know?..

actually, weird analogy here but, it's sort of like when people think they will just easily CTB by jumping off of a high bridge or building, but when you are ACTUALLY there on the edge it is like 100x realer than you were imagining it in your mind and it is terrifying and your SI (survival instinct) kicks in REAL hard and makes you think "holy cow nevermind, i think i'll find a different method, this is insanely scary"..

any way so, if you end up trying DMT then make sure you are in a good mood (i don't have good trips on things if i'm in a negative mood) and be mentally prepared to really travel to a different place.. you are not going to be here on earth at all any more for a while..

 

[InfatuatedLove]

why not? I mean naybe an experience like that could completely shift the way you perceive existence, consciousness, and what we call life. Maybe it could reveal a different perspective, not necessarily an answer, but maybe it could break you free from the way we spend our whole lives trying to understand reality through our own limited senses and experiences!!

any way so, if you end up trying DMT then make sure you are in a good mood (i don't have good trips on things if i'm in a negative mood) and be mentally prepared to really travel to a different place.. you are not going to be here on earth at all any more for a while..

i second this!!

 

[Endstati0n]

i've always been too scared to try DMT.. i had a 5.1 gram mushroom trip once that was scary as all hell where it felt like i was being pulled in to this portal in the sky and i felt like going through it was going to cause ego loss and it was so scary and i was mentally trying to claw my way from being pulled in to it and tried to keep my self grounded in reality.. i like light doses of mushrooms but not heavy doses..

but any way, so i don't know how much drug experience you have but i want you to keep in mind that things like ego loss are going to feel so much more real when you are actually experiencing them than just thinking about it.. you know?..... like when people hear about being in space and meeting aliens while on DMT some people think "wow that sounds wicked cool, floating around in space and seeing cool aliens", but when it is really happening it is super realistic and it isn't going to seem like a fun little fluffy space adventure any more when you are REALLY ACTUALLY THERE, you know?..

actually, weird analogy here but, it's sort of like when people think they will just easily CTB by jumping off of a high bridge or building, but when you are ACTUALLY there on the edge it is like 100x realer than you were imagining it in your mind and it is terrifying and your SI (survival instinct) kicks in REAL hard and makes you think "holy cow nevermind, i think i'll find a different method, this is insanely scary"..

any way so, if you end up trying DMT then make sure you are in a good mood (i don't have good trips on things if i'm in a negative mood) and be mentally prepared to really travel to a different place.. you are not going to be here on earth at all any more for a while..

Couple years ago i tried almost every psychedelic because i hoped it would help me with my depression. I did a heroic dose of mushrooms once and it already showed me how we are all connected and stuff. I never had a bad trip but after quitting everything i had panic attacks for one year. Couldnt work or even leave the house. I slowly fought my way back and am stable again. I think i just did too much, pretty much everyday for months. I dont really look for healing anymore. I just want to know how DMT feels and how "death" feels like before actually CTBing. They say doing DMT makes you not afraid of death anymore too, so yeah. Thanks for your advice tho.

And about your mushroom story. I think thats the thing with taking a small dose, you still have a choice of fighting it. With a good big dose you can only give up

 

[FF777]

and how "death" feels like

it seems kind of like you are expecting to be conscious after death then?..

i believe in spirit world and reincarnation and lots of crazy stuff.. i'm planning to CTB here in a week or two.. i'm 44 years old and not scared of death because of my beliefs like that.. i think we go back to spirit world, do a life review (not in a judgemental way), and then decide if we feel like incarnating again or just stay in spirit world..

the light mushroom doses i liked were like 0.5-1.0 grams.. i really never even cared about any visuals really, i just liked the mental change.. it made every thing feel comfy and funny but i felt lucid and clear-headed and some times felt like my "real" self, as if it helped me shed off fake layers of my personality that really shouldn't be there..

but yeah i guess if you are determined to CTB then you might as well try DMT if you think you can handle it.. i'll send you some good vibes your way if you decide to..

 

[Endstati0n]

it seems kind of like you are expecting to be conscious after death then?..

i believe in spirit world and reincarnation and lots of crazy stuff.. i'm planning to CTB here in a week or two.. i'm 44 years old and not scared of death because of my beliefs like that.. i think we go back to spirit world, do a life review (not in a judgemental way), and then decide if we feel like incarnating again or just stay in spirit world..

the light mushroom doses i liked were like 0.5-1.0 grams.. i really never even cared about any visuals really, i just liked the mental change.. it made every thing feel comfy and funny but i felt lucid and clear-headed and some times felt like my "real" self, as if it helped me shed off fake layers of my personality that really shouldn't be there..

but yeah i guess if you are determined to CTB then you might as well try DMT if you think you can handle it.. i'll send you some good vibes your way if you decide to..

I mean when you break through with DMT, people say it felt like dying, but after they "died" on DMT they were going to some sort of after life or other dimension with Alien like Enteties. People that really died but came back, said basically the same thing. People that had NDE say the Enteties told them that they can't stay with them and that they have to go back, but someday they will meet again, same experience on DMT.

It's really fascinating. Both groups also say that in this other dimension it feels more real than reality on earth and when they come back to earth they see the simulation of our world, how it's almost like a fake game or something. They both lose the fear of dying.

It's the most powerful psychedelic on the planet but i kinda see it more like a NDE through drugs instead of like a trip with LSD or something.

Reincarnation is my biggest nightmare. Thats why i wish for MAID for anyone that applies for it, no illness needed. So when i get reincarnated i can just go to MAID again and die again.

I also really loved how mushrooms made me feel. I remember listening to Cigarettes after Sex - K ... The Neighborhood - Sweather Weather or Comfortably Numb while on shrooms, it sounded like an orgasm in my ears. Shrooms also relaxed me so much, really lika a massage for your brain and 1000x better than some anti depressant or some other bullshit they try to give you.

Thanks, sending you good vibes right back!

 

[FF777]

Comfortably Numb

holy cow me and my friend listened to the same song while tripping out on mushrooms.. it must be the token mushroom song every one has to listen to while tripping.. but yeah it feels like a deep song any way but especially while tripping..

lol it's funny that your strategy on beating reincarnation is just to keep dying over and over as soon as possible.. your spirit guides are going to be like "he can't keep getting away with it!"..

and yeah i've read tons of NDE reports.. and a common thing is losing the fear of dying.. i guess the unknown is scary until it isn't unknown any more..

i actually love the concept of life.. i'm a really silly and goofy spirit by nature and i love just playing around and trying to have fun with life, so i'm not a person that just wants to not exist any more..... but it's just that eventually in your physical incarnation here you get old and damaged and so eventually it's too much to salvage any more and i might as well exit out before it gets too much worse because i'm already suffering quite a bit.. but i don't think just existing is suffering.. like as long as i have a healthy body and i'm not super old then i shouldn't really have a reason to die.. but when some one is depressed and in turmoil in their life it's hard to imagine that there is happiness that is possible in the universe if the conditions are favorable, and so it isn't just eternal suffering for ever, you know?.. so, even if you are suffering now that doesn't necessarily mean you will be suffering any more in spirit world or in an other incarnation..

one weird thought i have though is: no matter how tragic some things are or how many people are suffering in the world, i'm kind of glad there is SOME THING in the universe....... it's kind of a mind-blowing concept when you think ahout it........ why is there ANY THING at all in the universe? the universe could have just as easily have had NOTHING at all..... like why does any matter or energy need to exist at all? it could have just been nothing in existence for all of eternity.. but for some reason there is SOME THING.. there are planets, stars, life, (and in my belief) spirits and astral planes and all sorts of unimaginable things out there.. and so no matter what suffering a person is going through at the moment, it isn't permanent and eventually all things come to pass, and better days are possible even if it doesn't seem like it is possible at the moment..

by the way, if you have a friend that can trip-sit you while you do DMT then you might do that.. me and my friend were always very intelligent about drugs.. we realized that drugs tend to attract kind of trashy low-level people but that isn't us; we were careful and if one of us was going to do a dose of mushrooms then the other one would remain sober (most of the time) and be a trip-sitter for the other one.. and holy crap i don't want to go in to detail but one time i stupidly took 5.1 grams alone with out him and it was so scary that i was about to call the police to come help me, even though i KNEW how insanely stupid that would be but the trip was so terrifying that i didn't care.. but i managed to force my self to try calling my mom (who was at work) first and if she didn't answer i was going to call 911 next, but fortunately she answered and i told her to come home immediately because i was "sick", and she did.. but that shows you, as intelligent as i am, and as bad of a decision i knew it was to call the motherfracking police, i was STILL going to do it because of how terrifying that trip was... so my point is, if you are trip-sitting some one that is taking a high dose or some thing, DO NOT LET THEM HAVE ACCESS TO ANY PHONE... while they are tripping there is NO REASON they need to be calling or texting or contacting ANY ONE until they are back down in reality..

 

[Endstati0n]

lol it's funny that your strategy on beating reincarnation is just to keep dying over and over as soon as possible.. your spirit guides are going to be like "he can't keep getting away with it!"..

Hahah that really made me laugh, thanks mate. I wonder if these Enteties even know if you killed yourself or died naturally. I would bet that they don't know and all that saying that you go to hell for suicide is nonsense IMO.

by the way, if you have a friend that can trip-sit you while you do DMT then you might do that..

I hear that alot and i'd say you're right. But for me atleast, the idea of having someone with me while being high on something sounds like a nightmare. I don't want anyone to see me like that. I always trip alone and as i said, i've never had a bad trip, even on 20 grams of mushrooms. I don't trust people because i got hurt alot. The first time i smoked cannabis with my friends, when i still had friends, i thouht they wanted to murder me lol.

Also, a trip sitter for DMT is kind of useless, because the trip only last 5-15 minutes and when you break through you are unconcious. You are literally in another dimension, people say. Btw i don't even have a friend who could potentially trip sit me.

I'm sorry you had a bad trip on shrooms. Still could have been much worse. It's weird, sometimes you feel so good and relaxed, music hits way better and stuff, but then you just feel this feeling of doom and horror. Shrooms are weird. Really, really weird but great stuff. It should be more normalised, the world would be a much better place.