Discussion Dignitas healthy woman going because of the loss of her son, is it easier to qualify now?

[sickofeverything]

Just saw a story of a 56 year old healthy woman who paid to go to dignitas after the loss of her son, I thought you had to have a terminal illness or debilitating illness to die with dignity, can severe heart break and emotional distress qualify now?

 

[bpdscared9]

A girl in Spain was able to achieved after proving to the judges that she was in a several chronic pain due her BPD thanks to a group who raped her. I think it's very much possible, the old lady probably had some PTSD diagnosed prior the approval for it.

25-Year-Old Ends Life by Voluntary Euthanasia Against Family’s Wishes After Years of Mental Health Issues, Chronic Pain

Noelia Castillo Ramos, a 25-year-old from Barcelona, chose voluntary euthanasia after years of battling mental health challenges and chronic pain. Her case gained international attention after a prolonged legal battle with her father, who opposed her decision.

people.com

 

[sickofeverything]

A girl in Spain was able to achieved after proving to the judges that she was in a several chronic pain due her BPD thanks to a group who raped her. I think it's very much possible, the old lady probably had some PTSD diagnosed prior the approval for it.

25-Year-Old Ends Life by Voluntary Euthanasia Against Family’s Wishes After Years of Mental Health Issues, Chronic Pain

Noelia Castillo Ramos, a 25-year-old from Barcelona, chose voluntary euthanasia after years of battling mental health challenges and chronic pain. Her case gained international attention after a prolonged legal battle with her father, who opposed her decision.

people.com

Yeah I saw that story as well but it seems for her case she could easily prove huge trauma that will greatly affect her life, the case about the mom being granted it for her son's death seems less extreme, I'm surprised it was granted since usually people say "everyone dies, it's not a reason for you to die"

 

[bpdscared9]

it really depends on the psychiatric evaluation of the woman. Probably her mental state was awful!

 

[sickofeverything]

it really depends on the psychiatric evaluation of the woman. Probably her mental state was awful!

I wonder how quick and easy it is to go through the evaluation, I have a feeling a lot of us would be able to pass with our awful mental states but the question is would we get the approval as well?

 

[bpdscared9]

It really depends, I may say. They need to evaluate your trauma, environment, your reasons and everything related to it. I think it's gonna be a tough process and a very expensive one too.

 

[sickofeverything]

It really depends, I may say. They need to evaluate your trauma, environment, your reasons and everything related to it. I think it's gonna be a tough process and a very expensive one too.

Yeah sadly that seems to be the case, from what I read I believe she attempted to take her life and said she'd try again without it and she doesn't want to traumatize the rest of her family that way so she got it. I wish there was readily available and easy to get suicide like in Futurama, there would probably be less mass casualties as well. People hate suicide and hate us for doing it yet they don't let a legal peaceful option exist so we have to do it ourselves and traumatize our family, people who see if we do it outside, and whoever has to find us or come deal with the aftermath

 

[bpdscared9]

Yeah sadly that seems to be the case, from what I read I believe she attempted to take her life and said she'd try again without it and she doesn't want to traumatize the rest of her family that way so she got it. I wish there was readily available and easy to get suicide like in Futurama, there would probably be less mass casualties as well. People hate suicide and hate us for doing it yet they don't let a legal peaceful option exist so we have to do it ourselves and traumatize our family, people who see if we do it outside, and whoever has to find us or come deal with the aftermath

There's barely countries who has the approval for euthanasia which is so unfortunate and very hard to archive without the medical permission first. We only have the rough methods left, sadly.

 

[Sardenain]

I want to add that in these news stories about euthanasia the information public has can be incomplete, very skewed, contradictory or even prejudiced and outright malicious. People with best knowledge of each case wont be talking to public. So making conclusions based on few cases can be hard.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Is it this lady?

Mum says 'my life, my choice' as she plans to end her own life

Wendy Duffy, 56, is the first person in Britain to speak openly about her decision to travel to a Swiss assisted dying clinic before the procedure takes place

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

I believe Pegasos are slightly more open to accepting non terminally ill people. I doubt Dignitas would agree to accept that reasoning.

That said- it does sound as if she had in fact gone through 4 years of therapy and medication. I imagine she does have a medical history to suggest that the grief she is still experiencing- after her son's tragic accidental death- isn't diminishing via treatment.

It does make you wonder though- I think the regulations are slightly loosening in some places.

Poor lady. I'm relieved for her that she has been granted her wish.

 

[Dawns]

A girl in Spain was able to achieved after proving to the judges that she was in a several chronic pain due her BPD thanks to a group who raped her. I think it's very much possible, the old lady probably had some PTSD diagnosed prior the approval for it.

25-Year-Old Ends Life by Voluntary Euthanasia Against Family’s Wishes After Years of Mental Health Issues, Chronic Pain

Noelia Castillo Ramos, a 25-year-old from Barcelona, chose voluntary euthanasia after years of battling mental health challenges and chronic pain. Her case gained international attention after a prolonged legal battle with her father, who opposed her decision.

people.com

don't know if someone already mentioned this, but she also attempted suicide by jumping which left her paralyzed from the waist down and with chronic pain. definitely helped her case for assistance in dying

 

[itsallogrenow]

don't know if someone already mentioned this, but she also attempted suicide by jumping which left her paralyzed from the waist down and with chronic pain. definitely helped her case for assistance in dying

I was just about to comment this. I don't feel like BPD alone would be approved since there is DBT available with high remission rates.

 

[bpdscared9]

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I was just about to comment this. I don't feel like BPD alone would be approved since there is DBT available with high remission rates.

I was trying to find an article that I read some months ago but I was unable to find it that basically explained how some people was trying to prove that BPD was a disorder that can get approval for Euthanasia since it's very hard to live with it.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Most likely it was due to her age, these organizations seem to discourage younger people (under 50/60) as praxis, even if that person is suffering from multiple chronic health conditions. It's the same as exit, they seem to endorse such a policy that older people fundamentally have a right to choose, even if the older person may not have undergone treatment or been diagnosed with a litany of chronic conditions persay.

I think if there was a younger person dealing with severe grief, of a parent, spouse, sibling, etc, they wouldn't approve the request. It's why every time you see an article about a younger person being approved by such organizations, they have typically have been suffering for years and years in hospitals/pysch wards, treatment programs etc, and undergoing every therapy known to man for multiple chronic health conditions.

I was just about to comment this. I don't feel like BPD alone would be approved since there is DBT available with high remission rates.

I do think it was important, in her case. But also, she had been hospitalised multiple times in regards to PTSD, BPD, and the mental health diagnoses. It's likely she had probably been through DBT programs many times, and had it documented that those treatments weren't effective for her, if I had to guess. This poor girl spent over 10 years of her life in the mental health system.