did anyone move toward other methods than sn?

[Ah.ow]

I thought sn seemed most accessible/peaceful/uncomplicated, but i got confused or overwhelmed with some aspects of the current source. so I wondered if anyone also was leaning toward sn, and then found other methods that sounded pursueable for them?

or, if anyone had thoughts about the current seller, that helped them with the aspects that can be troubling?

I also wondered if there's more methods than pph and the megathread shows? I had not read older method books because I worried if they or the sourcing part was outdated, but did those books help anyone?

there was also a method in pph, starting with a p, that i didn't find info about when I searched here and on Google- I wondered how to clarify that, because it seemed high rated in pph?

 

[Wrath]

Just saw this as I was browsing, I did get overwhelmed at first regarding SN. So I experimented (mostly just internet research) asphyxiation/drowning/guns. I have decided to go through with the SN though.
I didn't go the asphyxiation route because I didn't trust myself to set it up correctly.
I didn't trust drowning because there are no good bodies of water near me that are close enough or remote enough.
I gave up on guns because of the stress from the noise itself. I did get my dad's shotgun pointed at the right angle in my mouth, loaded, and put my finger on the trigger, but what stopped me was my own cowardice. The neighbors would also hear. The mess would get everywhere. And it (might) be really painful right before the end. And it's really loud.
So for me SN it is. Unless you can get access to something similar in nature. Personally I think ingesting something that leads to a peaceful end is the best way to go about it. Imo all the other methods have too many fuck ups and potential brain damage, but if I ingest enough substance x or y and keep from throwing up, and hide myself for a few hours, then all's good I guess. I may be completely wrong though, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

[Valhala]

The only alternative to the SN method is N (which is difficult to access) and the inert gas method (which is quite complicated to implement). So, still SN.

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

It's not uncomplicated unless you live in a country where it isn't available, so you have to look abroad, and even then you'll get a police welfare check IF you can find it abroad - companies tend to only sell it to other companies and NOT an individual (I have tried myself and they told me this, because it's a 'dangerous substance, we only sell to companies, not individuals').

So yeah, SN is complicated. I would rather not risk a welfare check and end up in a psych ward. Even being interviewed by the damn police would be scary, especially because I have a history of trying to kill myself. Fuck that.

I'll be hanging myself. This has been my method for a very long time now. I have tried on numerous occasions, but the last time I got it down to a T, I just didn't tie the knot to the anchor tight enough so it slipped.

P.S violently puking doesn't sound peaceful to me. I've heard plenty of stories on here of people violently throwing up with SN and some actually surviving the attempt. Imagine violently puking your guts up before you die? What an awful way to go. Rather hang myself

I hope you find peace, whatever that looks like to you

 

[cait_sith]

I have even ordered everything needed for SN-method (except benzos) but have come to lean heavily towards full-suspension. It feels better in my mind to have quick, although potentially very painful, brutal, dangerous, scary but somewhat reliable, time tested, mainstream method than one with that might be less painful but has a long onset time, gives much opportunity to panic, call ambulance, re-Orts of heavy sickness, very different variables like how meds and sn react in your body, long set-up, psychologically challenging, you have to think of so much stuff, its not as well documented, poisoning is scary, scared of fucking it up. Both methods are far from ideal that being said, and my opinion of which is better changes often, resulting with me getting stuck.

 

[rozeske]

On the contrary, I've shifted towards sn from hanging, even though it means longer time being stuck here till I get it. Sn was too intimidating and seemingly unattainable at first, but after looking in to it deeply, I can't imagine leaving any other way. I'm hoping with everything in me that I don't resort back to hanging.

 

[Amarajoy]

Just saw this as I was browsing, I did get overwhelmed at first regarding SN. So I experimented (mostly just internet research) asphyxiation/drowning/guns. I have decided to go through with the SN though.
I didn't go the asphyxiation route because I didn't trust myself to set it up correctly.
I didn't trust drowning because there are no good bodies of water near me that are close enough or remote enough.
I gave up on guns because of the stress from the noise itself. I did get my dad's shotgun pointed at the right angle in my mouth, loaded, and put my finger on the trigger, but what stopped me was my own cowardice. The neighbors would also hear. The mess would get everywhere. And it (might) be really painful right before the end. And it's really loud.
So for me SN it is. Unless you can get access to something similar in nature. Personally I think ingesting something that leads to a peaceful end is the best way to go about it. Imo all the other methods have too many fuck ups and potential brain damage, but if I ingest enough substance x or y and keep from throwing up, and hide myself for a few hours, then all's good I guess. I may be completely wrong though, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Will we actually hear the gun though? Won't it be too quick to register anything like sound or pain? I just can't figure out what angle it's really supposed to be. Do I just stick the barrel in my mouth and shoot? Is it really that complicated?

 

[Wrath]

Will we actually hear the gun though? Won't it be too quick to register anything like sound or pain? I just can't figure out what angle it's really supposed to be. Do I just stick the barrel in my mouth and shoot? Is it really that complicated?

It's definitely an irrational bitch out that my brain created for me, probably won't hear it. But the loudness is an issue if it draws attention after the fact, difference between a messup and slowly dying or a messup and hospital. Angle is whatever destroys the brainstem. I may be wrong, but straight up could leave your brainstem alive, or some other parts of the brain and then you become a vegetable without your prefrontal cortex. Probably not too much more complicated though.

 

[lifteddream]

I'm too scared to off myself and remain in much worse condition, for who knows how long and how much suffering there may be

So between a rock and a hard place it is....

 

[Bleh61]

I thought sn seemed most accessible/peaceful/uncomplicated, but i got confused or overwhelmed with some aspects of the current source. so I wondered if anyone also was leaning toward sn, and then found other methods that sounded pursueable for them?

or, if anyone had thoughts about the current seller, that helped them with the aspects that can be troubling?

I also wondered if there's more methods than pph and the megathread shows? I had not read older method books because I worried if they or the sourcing part was outdated, but did those books help anyone?

there was also a method in pph, starting with a p, that i didn't find info about when I searched here and on Google- I wondered how to clarify that, because it seemed high rated in pph?

I had thought that I would be able CTB with my Phenobarbital prescription. Unfortunately, the minimum lethal dose is about 6000 milligrams which is double my monthly prescription. I could try taking it with my Lamotragine. The last thing I want is to survive the attempt. My lease expires in April and I already owe my landlord 7000 dollars. I live in New York City, so there are some pretty robust renter protection laws, even so, I'm afraid that even if God willing, I get a job by January and start paying down my arrears, it won't matter. I NEED this apartment. I don't know if I can go back to the drama of renting rooms again.

 

[Peter Skellern]

SN doesn't really seem that peaceful to me. Hence I'm looking at OD. That seems far more so.

 

[Ah.ow]

SN doesn't really seem that peaceful to me. Hence I'm looking at OD. That seems far more so.

I haven't heard a perspective like this, sounds interesting and helpful. I wondered can you elaborate?

 

[Peter Skellern]

SN to me sounds contrived not to say painful. There's certainly some let's not pretend. There's also at least 15 minutes of 'thinking time'. Pretty grim that. I'd much rather take an OD (of Opioids ideally) and just go to sleep - quickly. Failing that, I'm looking at Carbon Monoxide. Pretty much a similar rationale. Not for everyone I know but best to explore options.

 

[Endofpain]

I considered SN aswell and have it for a backup.
That said, I decided to go with inert gas instead. It is like gaseous N and beats every other method in my opinion. I will use opiods in acid reskstant capsules as a backup.

I don't know why people consider inert gas to be soooo conplicated. You just need a gas bottle with regulator and a hose with a plastic bag.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I considered SN aswell and have it for a backup.
That said, I decided to go with inert gas instead. It is like gaseous N and beats every other method in my opinion. I will use opiods in acid reskstant capsules as a backup.

I don't know why people consider inert gas to be soooo conplicated. You just need a gas bottle with regulator and a hose with a plastic bag.

Why not just the opioids?

 

[Endofpain]

Why not just the opioids?

I have no way of knowing their purity. I will pass out in a few sec from the N2. The capsule will permeate its content after 10 - 20 min in the small intestine.

 

[parasite_eve]

I considered SN aswell and have it for a backup.
That said, I decided to go with inert gas instead. It is like gaseous N and beats every other method in my opinion. I will use opiods in acid reskstant capsules as a backup.

I don't know why people consider inert gas to be soooo conplicated. You just need a gas bottle with regulator and a hose with a plastic bag.

Currently partial to n2 and sn myself, but IG is complicated depending on accessibility of the right mats + equipment and has technical failure modes possible from setup to execution; similarly sn has mats are difficult to source but easier to execute with possible longer unpleasant time over 15+ minutes where you can call 911. Diff folks are gonna find diff routes more/ less pleasant but we should underscore the need for proper planning and execution in any case.

 

[Endofpain]

I agree

Currently partial to n2 and sn myself, but IG is complicated depending on accessibility of the right mats + equipment and has technical failure modes possible from setup to execution; similarly sn has mats are difficult to source but easier to execute with possible longer unpleasant time over 15+ minutes where you can call 911. Diff folks are gonna find diff routes more/ less pleasant but we should underscore the need for proper planning and execution in any case.

I agree. Panning is key since this will be the most important decision of our lives

 

[Peter Skellern]

I have no way of knowing their purity. I will pass out in a few sec from the N2. The capsule will permeate its content after 10 - 20 min in the small intestine.

Are you American? I take it not difficult to obtain?
..

 

[Endofpain]

Are you American? I take it not difficult to obtain?
..

I am not. I think inert gas is easy to obtain in every country. Why shouldn't it?
Ar,N2 and He are used in welding, brewing, inflating tires etc. The components can be ordered online (Ebay, Amazon) or sourced at welding supply stores, hardware stores... the list goes on and on.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I am not. I think inert gas is easy to obtain in every country. Why shouldn't it?
Ar,N2 and He are used in welding, brewing, inflating tires etc. The components can be ordered online (Ebay, Amazon) or sourced at welding supply stores, hardware stores... the list goes on and on.

I was meaning opioids.

 

[Endofpain]

I was meaning opioids.

I didn't get them yet. I honestly have no idea where to get them exept by buying them from some homeless folks.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I didn't get them yet. I honestly have no idea where to get them exept by buying them from some homeless folks.

Welcome to my world. I'm an ordinary British guy who's never taken drugs in his life. I have no idea where to source them. You have any Telegram knowledge re that? That's supposedly what young people do.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

No. To me, SN sounds like the best method that I could access. If I could access a better method like N or the sacro pod, I'd take those any day but I'm going to be rational and acknowledge that I won't ever get access to these methods due to pro lifers being immensely strict about coercive suicide prevention

 

[Endofpain]

Welcome to my world. I'm an ordinary British guy who's never taken drugs in his life. I have no idea where to source them. You have any Telegram knowledge re that? That's supposedly what young people do.

I see. But i must disappoint you. Until recently I lived a perfect live (with crippling depression that is) and was active in volunteering for my freetime.

I have never taken anything, but I must admit that I understand drug users now in my state. Telegram isn't like Online Shopping. As far as I know you have to be part of some network already to be let into a group.
...and who knows if the stuff there is even pure to begin with.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I see. But i must disappoint you. Until recently I lived a perfect live (with crippling depression that is) and was active in volunteering for my freetime.

I have never taken anything, but I must admit that I understand drug users now in my state. Telegram isn't like Online Shopping. As far as I know you have to be part of some network already to be let into a group.
...and who knows if the stuff there is even pure to begin with.

This is my thinking too. You have to know someone who will add you.