Help CO Method

[EmpressDean]

Hello. I was thinking about the CO method. I have read like 40 ages of the CO mega thread. I just wanted to clarify,
1) do I need to worry about the upholstery in the ceiling of my car getting charred or going burnt from the heat/smoke from the charcoal?
2) could I use binchotan, the Asian charcoal bricks from Home Depot, instead of the kings charcoal? I thought of this cuz that's what ppl in the Asian countries use to ctb.
3) I thought about using buckets, but is there something more flatter to spread the charcoal out? I worry that it piling on each other so high will stop the CO from getting out

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

is there something flatter to spread the charcoal out?

Mini grills. Though I think if you use a chimney starter and they're all gray it should be fine.

 

[EmpressDean]

Min

Mini grills. Though I think if you use a chimney starter and they're all gray it should be fine.

like the portable ones?

 

[Dejected 55]

When I think about this method... there's that competing strategy thing where you want to spread the charcoals out to expose more surface area to let more CO free... then there's limited surface area to sit heat-resistant containers in the enclosed space you need... in my case I would be considering my car too... and you have to do calculus to figure out the best way to spread things out and not start a fire and have room to sit in there yourself.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Min

like the portable ones?

Yeah. Also the chimney starter is optional, you can start the coals in the grill(s) with lighter fluid if you want

 

[Dejected 55]

Based on my own experience with burning oil in a oil/gas powered engine being a deterrent to breathing... I've wondered if using lighter fluid impacts in any way? As in, does fluid residue still provide smells that could irritate and inhibit ability to stay with the coals after? I know some people try not to use lighter fluids in their methods.

 

[peacefulsleepnow]

Yeah I'm sincerely concerned about the heat from the coals setting the car roof on fire.

 

[EmpressDean]

Based on my own experience with burning oil in a oil/gas powered engine being a deterrent to breathing... I've wondered if using lighter fluid impacts in any way? As in, does fluid residue still provide smells that could irritate and inhibit ability to stay with the coals after? I know some people try not to use lighter fluids in their methods.

Sorry I read this and I didn't understand anything. I saw your post on your attempt with co with the chainsaw? How are you now? Did you figure out another method with CO? I thought about using coals like I mentioned above but now I'm really looking at some type of engine. But idk I'm not a mechanic so idk how to make the CO sensor go away and not build bad fumes that isn't CO

 

[Dejected 55]

Sorry I read this and I didn't understand anything. I saw your post on your attempt with co with the chainsaw? How are you now? Did you figure out another method with CO? I thought about using coals like I mentioned above but now I'm really looking at some type of engine. But idk I'm not a mechanic so idk how to make the CO sensor go away and not build bad fumes that isn't CO

My attempt with the chainsaw should have produced enough CO... but what I had not considered was the fact that my particular kind of saw burned a fuel + oil mixture, and as such it produced a burning oil smell/smoke that made my eyes and lungs burn... so I could not sit in the enclosed space more than a minute and that was not nearly enough time to let the CO do its work. I needed a different kind of saw that just burned fuel to eliminate the burning oil from the equation... but I had and have no money to afford a new $500+ saw that might do the trick... so that method is out the window.

A power generator or possibly even a gas-powered lawnmower might work... but a mower is awkward and I don't own a gas-powered one anyway... and a generator would be way more expensive than the saw I already can't afford. So I've pretty much nixed that idea too. If you can find an older/used generator for sale you might find one from before the CO sensors were part of the construction. Otherwise, I have seen people on here talking about how to remove or disable them, so I believe that is possible.

Coals is probably the only way that makes sense for me if I wanted to try again that way. Coal is probably the cheapest way to get to generating CO... although I'd have to not only buy the coal but buy fireproof containers to burn them in and hold them in my enclosed space... and I don't really have anything that does that already, so it would have to be something I could afford on a limited budget.

That's one of the problems with the potentially more peaceful methods... they always cost something. You can usually find a way to hang yourself almost for free or jump off a tall building for free... but those are methods I'm really scared to try for fear of chickening out and for fear of failure that would fail in a way leaving me really in physical pain.

I suffered no physical effects of my attempt in October that I'm aware of... just increased my depression and sense of being a failure and put me in this limbo where I feel miserable but have no idea what to do.