chances of turning into a veggie from SN?

[nothingchanges]

i guess exactly what the title says. if i take the proper amount but am somehow saved or throw up, could i survive as a veg (intellectually disabled)?

 

[stygal]

i guess exactly what the title says. if i take the proper amount but am somehow saved or throw up, could i survive as a veg (intellectually disabled)?

Dont think so...by being safed you mean a medical professional treating you? Because then you won't become a veggie since the effects are reversible.

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

If you search through the threads you will find a handful of people that they woke up in a hospital after getting metha metho I can't spell it, to counteract the effects

 

[quiet.rabbit]

If you search through the threads you will find a handful of people that they woke up in a hospital after getting metha metho I can't spell it, to counteract the effects

What if you don't go to a hospital?

 

[stygal]

What if you don't go to a hospital?

You'll die (obviously)...if you took less than recommend then it will only take longer.

 

[k75]

I'm not going to say it won't happen, because anything is possible. But based on all the survivor reports, it seems unlikely. As far as this forum goes, we've had plenty of survivors come back ok. Obviously, we wouldn't hear from anyone who ended up in a vegetative state, but it hasn't really been reported.

If it doesn't kill you, chances are you didn't take enough and your body can reverse the effects if given time. There aren't really any verifiable accounts of that kind of lasting damage. Supposedly a child in China ended up in a coma, but that's not a great resource, in my opinion, because we have no way of verifying what actually happened or if it was exaggerated or propaganda, it was a child, and there aren't studies to reference.

 

[Meditation guide]

The only people I've heard about who survived were ones who went to the hospital. And even some of those died in the hospital. They can't pull everyone through even there. It seems to be incredibly deadly.

Or there might be one or two I've heard of who didn't take the full amount that is considered lethal. There is a lot of variation in how each person's body handles SN. But those who survived even on their own are ok.

Obviously, we wouldn't hear from anyone who ended up in a vegetative state, Thatbut it hasn't really been reported.

That is a good point. If someone was seriously brain damaged they probably wouldn't be able to come here and report it.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

slim to none. I have not seen evidence of that in the medical journals provided here many of which came from prestigious sources like US NIH, UK NHS, etc. If you are worried about becoming vegetable you need to set up living will that commands the medical system to terminate you ASAP should you be deemed vegetable

 

[Superdeterminist]

I know the topic is a serious one, but the title made me laugh. Sadly though I don't know what the chances of that happening are.

 

[Steamm]

I dont think that will happen

 

[Meditation guide]

If one is already a veggie like me it's not a problem anyway.

 

[ZardozOmega]

Can happen, but has never been reported in the literature.

 

[Meditation guide]

It seems like if you are so seriously affected by SN that you would get brain damage then you would die. Your heart apparently dies first before the brain however, so when that happens you die.

 

[the_final_countdown]

Some dude went into a coma for two weeks after being rescued.

But that was after they pumped him with methylene blue. He may have very well just died had they not saved him.

 

[Sorrygoodbye]

Methylene blue, the common sn antidote, can cause serotonin syndrome, which, in rare cases, can put someone in a coma

 

[the_final_countdown]

Methylene blue, the common sn antidote, can cause serotonin syndrome, which, in rare cases, can put someone in a coma

Interesting. So it probably has other side effects as well, if it increases serotonin.

I could imagine it removing suicidal ideation for a time too, because it seems to function like an antidepressant.

 

[Weary Soul]

Doubtful given how SN is known to affect the body; however, that being said, there are typically exceptions to "the rules". Another way to phrase it is that statistically speaking, there will be some outliers (rare though it might be) from the norm where medications/poisons impact people differently and/or unexpectedly when compared with the vast majority of people.

@Fragile and others here have mentioned (to paraphrase), that when one attempts to take their own life there is always a potential risk involved and to think there is a perfect method that works perfectly all the time is unrealistic.

@Fragile, you said it so much better than I did - it might be helpful to repeat what you said here.

I am not trying to scare anyone,

From anecdotal reports to date, the likelihood seems low for severe sequala following ingestion of SN; however, the outcome of taking a poison for any individual will not be truly known until they have taken it.

 

[Despondent]

Every method, I'd assume, has the chances of leaving someone in that state.

To answer your question, SN isn't only one of the more "lethal" and "peaceful" methods, but it's one where if you are saved, the likelihood of being in a veggie-like state isn't as high in comparison to other methods. It's still important to take the recommended dose, although people have still succeeded with small amounts.